And no one at the time was defending Mel saying it violates his free speech to not be able to call a police woman "sweet tits" and say that hairy, greedy, pedophile Jews run Hollywood. The dude is a sexist anti-Semite and is treated as such.
Gina Carano Fired From “The Mandalorian” Over “Abhorrent” Social Media Posts
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He gave a half-hearted apology like 10 years ago, but no one believed him and he barely does any acting anymore. So no? He certainly hasn't had some great big come to Jesus moment where he's like "I love Jews and being respectful to women!"
He's been starting to make a comeback with recent movie announcements, and the still yet to be shown Passion of the Christ sequel apparently is still looming around.
And we'll see what happens. If he doesn't go all "Damn Jews!" again he might be forgiven, but its not on us to forgive someone just because. They really have to make an effort and progress into becoming a better person.
I guess it was like that in the 50s as well. I didn't think left wing politics would descend into McCarthyism though. As a life-long socialist, I figured we'd be better than that.
What do you think would happen when one side suddenly has power and in charge while their opposition has been weakened and taken out of that mantle?
Let's see who liberals/woke left people try to shun
A. Rojas who shunned Cenk Uygur out of Justice Democrats for comments he made decades ago even tho he runs of the largest progressive news organizations in the country
Neoliberals tried to shun Bernie for sexual harassment in his massive campaign even tho he didn't know about it.
A guy who raised money in Lowa for children because of what he said as a teenager.
A Hispanic-American truck driver or electrician for accidentally waving okay with his hands.
And all while Republicans are using this as a wedge issue to divide, and conquerer the left.
Also, why couldn't we cancel Joe Biden, he literally tried to cut social security, medicare, and Medicaid as a lawmaker. Now's he's president.
Canceling people is an undemocratic, distracting, lopsided, unfair, unjust, misappropriation way to pretend to be progressive.
I don't think I'll ever understand why people post on social media. It seems like it's all risk and no reward.
Because some people have this bizarre belief that the world needs to hear what they have to say.
And you're proof that it's working. "Tried to cancel." Not many actual examples of succeeding. It's almost as if the internet's fury is capricious and unreliable.
I still plan on voting dem(AOC for example), I just don't plan on canceling people on shows for dumbass reasons. The people the Republicans are dividing are people in my state of Ohio, and the midwest who like left-wing economics, but despise cancel culture.
That you believe you wield such power is almost charming. But please, do tell me more about how Gina Corano's actions as a celebrity were simple, harmless and trivial. I mean, if someone being a science-denying bigot who never apologizes when called out is a "dumbass reason" to no longer want to support that someone, then how much can you really disagree with them?
And you've elected to waste your time pretending that a thing we've always done is some new boogeyman, just like the propagandists were counting on you to. It's working. Instead of focusing on policy, you're chasing this goatfuck of a distraction.
By the way, in your list of examples of almost-but-not-really-cancelled people, you left out one who actually did get cancelled: Sinead O'Connor. She's still blacklisted in the US for her criticisms of the Catholic church, even though she's been vindicated. Funny how her name never comes up.
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For the record, the like was for pointing out an actual example of someone getting cancelled in Sinead O'Connor.
I disagree that all films post-Aliens are bad (Alien 3 and Covenant are good, Resurrection is okay, Prometheus is bad, IMO), or that the sequel trilogy is bad (highly flawed, but not bad - the only genuinely bad SW film I've seen is The Clone Wars), but semantics aside, I'd say the differences are:
1) Star Wars is a much larger IP, so you're going to get more people saying one thing or another. So when people lost their shit over Last Jedi, that's a lot of people.
2) There's the continuity issue. The sequel trilogy retconned the old EU from existence, and that peaved some people, not to mention that the sequel trilogy didn't do much interesting with its setting. In contrast, the Alien EU is a mess. Prometheus retconned the mala'lak into the Engineers, down to their very biology, but few people brought that up, because the EU was already highly inconsistent.
3) A lot of people will disagree with me, but I'll maintain that Alien (and by extension, the wider "Xenopedia" IP) is a setting-driven IP, while Star Wars is a plot-driven IP. And, by extension, character. So with the sequel trilogy, you had people enraged that Han died, or that Luke's character was "ruined." In contrast, Prometheus and Covenant don't 'ruin' Ellen Ripley or anything like that. You can argue that it ruins the mystery of the xenomorph (you could also argue that the EU already did that, but see point 2), but the result is that the sequel trilogy had baggage and obligations that the Alien prequel films didn't.
4) Expectations differed. My own personal thoughts aside, there's consensus that the Alien films peaked with Aliens (even if Alien is your preferred film, one can't deny the positive reception to Aliens), and since then, it's been films that, whatever some may say, have never lived up to the originals, so even if Prometheus and Covenant were the worst things in the world, that wouldn't be breaking trends, so to speak. Star Wars though, I'd argue, doesn't have consensus in the same way. Everyone agrees that the OT is the best thing in the history of ever, but aside from that? The prequels were generally well received when they came out, then they were revilved, now people seem to like them again after the ST. It's why I suspect that the sequels will have a re-evaluation later down the line, especially as kids who grew up with them get older.
There's also the fact that everything in the Alien IP uses Alien or Aliens as a template, and very little differs from it. Star Wars though...Star Wars has been everything from space fantasy, to military sci-fi, to even space horror. People love Star Wars, but while it's a larger fanbase, I'd argue it's a more fragmented one. So the result is that no matter what Disney did, it would piss people off.
Thing is even that was often done via trials even if they were little more than Kangaroo courts in some cases people had a shot to have their say and counter the claims. Now the claims don't even have to have any real evidence behind them and people are subjected to having to examine it or see arguments presented against the evidence.
The Alien EU where Skynet tried to weaponise the Xenomorphs while Ripley became the leader of the Predators.
But yeh the Alien EU really is messed up, I mean I think the Alien Vs Predator movies did a good deal of the heavy damage there with the whole Aliens were on Earth all along because Predators thing.
That's because Star Wars fans are the absolute worst.
Funny how I'm the only one to bring her up, huh? You ever notice how nobody who professes hate for cancel culture ever seems to care about what happened to her? You see where I'm going with this yet?