As always, fuck the GOP. May you all rot in hell, and be Mundus or Fleming's eternal slaves of damnation.
It really isn't. A constituency can be represented without their candidates being in power. It just needs to be done from the opposition rather than the government."So Republicans can maintain power" is effectively the same phrase as "so the Republican constituency can be represented."
Just doing God's work.As always, fuck the GOP. May you all rot in hell, and be Mundus or Fleming's eternal slaves of damnation.
Upvoted for Truth.It really isn't. A constituency can be represented without their candidates being in power. It just needs to be done from the opposition rather than the government.
The thing I find the funniest about greene's dismissal of waiting in line for HOURS, is that she says the real crime is that she had to.....wait for it....WAIT IN LINE...for just a few minutes, to go through a metal detector. THAT was the true crime to her.
So of course they are trying to frame the issue as "Oh, it's just waiting in line. Everyone does it at the Grocery Store"
Greene said so much herself just now.
But she doesn't get the fact to make it true, it would be literally what she just said. THE Grocery Store. As in, no other opportunity to shop anywhere else.
Why Do Nonwhite Georgia Voters Have To Wait In Line For Hours? Too Few Polling Places
The state's voter rolls have grown by nearly 2 million since the U.S. Supreme Court gutted the Voting Rights Act in 2013, but polling locations have been cut by almost 10%.www.npr.org
Texas closes hundreds of polling sites, making it harder for minorities to vote
Guardian analysis finds that places where black and Latino population is growing by the largest numbers experienced the majority of closures and could benefit Republicanswww.theguardian.com
I would love to see how she and other Republican leaders would react if what people are trying to do to the minority vote would actually happen to them, in terms of the Grocery store availability analogy they trot out so often. If the state came in, mandated that you could only shop at the grocery stores in your district, and then limited their available stores to just five per district. Also, you can only shop at the day the state said and no other time, lest you break the law.
I'm hard pressed to believe Greene and others who attempt to misrepresent how much of a 'non issue' this is would be ok with trying to get their groceries on their scheduled food day of the month, with literally thousands of other people in their district having the same food shopping day, and their employers being under no obligation to give them the day off to get food.
When your options are artificially limited, your choice stripped from you, and your ability to do for yourself hamstrung by mandates that do not have your best interest at heart... yeah, you tend to get angry.
That would require humility, self reflection, and the capacity to admit they were wrong about something. It would also require having a motivation for genuine fairness and equality, and not personal gain at any cost. And I think we know how likely that is to happen.How about... I don't know... maybe amending your politics and your base so your ideals become more appealing so people would vote in step with you? That's an idea.
I was more so referring to Mundus from OG DMC1, but the reboot version works too for ironic purposes.Just doing God's work.
The sad thing about the American system is that its not required for the Republicans to connect to the electorate. They have consistently lost the popular vote for over a decade now and their policies are significantly more unpopular than the alternative. But that doesn't matter as long as the American system allows a minority of the vote to seize a majority of the power. The Republicans aren't required to change because they don't need to win the election. They just need to win in a few random places so that the electoral vote can overwrite the people's vote.How about... I don't know... maybe amending your politics and your base so your ideals become more appealing so people would vote in step with you? That's an idea.
Oh I dunno, there's always some reason why it doesn't count as wrong. Lots of rabid anti-abortion types justify abortions for themselves or their mistresses, for example, and then go back to picketing afterwards.I bet if the GOP actually believed in hell, there wouldn't be this many televangelists and even conservatives.
In a way, it makes a lot of sense. If Republicans can commit enough election fraud, that fraud can worry people enough to let Republicans pass election laws that disenfranchise Democrats.Didn't really know where to put this, so here's some actual organized voter fraud: https://kfdm.com/news/nation-world/...e-peace-arrested-on-150-counts-of-voter-fraud
Or people from both parties (or neither party) commit election fraud, but nobody is putting the non-Republican fraud in front of Adam Jensen's face.In a way, it makes a lot of sense. If Republicans can commit enough election fraud, that fraud can worry people enough to let Republicans pass election laws that disenfranchise Democrats.
It's the "Justify fixes to a system by deliberately breaking it first" tactic.
And here's why conservatives have a hard time making allies: the assumption that literally everyone is just as dishonest as them.Or people from both parties (or neither party) commit election fraud, but nobody is putting the non-Republican fraud in front of Adam Jensen's face.
That does seem to be a constant stance within the demagogic right. On some level the demagogues demonizing all their opponents is part of the strategy to convince the electorate that they alone have any sort of legitimacy, but on another level they might actually sincerely believe that. They might justify their unacceptable actions to themselves and their electorate as something that's just a natural part of the political arena and that everyone is just as bad as them. Trump might really believe every other politician either is as corrupt as himself or would be if they could get away with it, Erdogan and Putin might believe any other politician would have overthrown their democracy if they could so it might just as well have been them, and so on.And here's why conservatives have a hard time making allies: the assumption that literally everyone is just as dishonest as them.
I mean...And here's why conservatives have a hard time making allies: the assumption that literally everyone is just as dishonest as them.
I don't think either party carries out much fraud, and certainly not "officially" sanctioned at a high level. They have much more sophisticated (and legal) ways to swing elections. I don't think the Republican Party's proposed solutions will do a lick of good against most of the very small amount of fraud that does exist, either. That it is finding solutions for a non-existent problem is a lot of why I don't have any trust in their motives for those policies.In a way, it makes a lot of sense. If Republicans can commit enough election fraud, that fraud can worry people enough to let Republicans pass election laws that disenfranchise Democrats.
It's the "Justify fixes to a system by deliberately breaking it first" tactic.
You're thinking about major national elections, where I agree with your assessment, but local and state-level elections are critically important, and can absolutely be swung by fraud. Most of the time when this topic comes up, all my examples of election fraud are local elections and/or Democratic primaries, because that's where you can steal an election and also arguably where it counts the most. Local elections are important. And like, Democrats are pushing for votes to count if made in the wrong precinct, focusing only on the effect on large elections, ignoring that they're going to mess up local elections by having people voting on the wrong ballots (either they count the whole ballot and screw up local elections with out of district voters, or they only count the votes that would be legal and de facto encourage people to ignore local elections).I don't think either party carries out much fraud, and certainly not "officially" sanctioned at a high level. They have much more sophisticated (and legal) ways to swing elections. I don't think the Republican Party's proposed solutions will do a lick of good against most of the very small amount of fraud that does exist, either. That it is finding solutions for a non-existent problem is a lot of why I don't have any trust in their motives for those policies.
There's barely any fraud at the small scale, either. It may be true that 20 votes in a local election makes a difference where it doesn't in a statewide election, but it's besides the point if it barely happens.You're thinking about major national elections, where I agree with your assessment, but local and state-level elections are critically important, and can absolutely be swung by fraud. Most of the time when this topic comes up, all my examples of election fraud are local elections... because that's where you can steal an election and also arguably where it counts the most.
"They're just as bad as we are, which is why they should be in jail and we should be in power!"And here's why conservatives have a hard time making allies: the assumption that literally everyone is just as dishonest as them.
Dont ellipsis out my complaints about Lyndon Johnson. That's cold, Agema.There's barely any fraud at the small scale, either. It may be true that 20 votes in a local election makes a difference where it doesn't in a statewide election, but it's besides the point if it barely happens.
Shifting the debate to the local level is about Republicans recognising that the argument facually fails at the higher level, so moving the frame to somewhere less publicised and harder to dig up evidence. It's still a huge amount of noise about very little to justify inadequate policy.
Dont ellipsis out my complaints about Lyndon Johnson. That's cold, Agema.