10-Year-Old Borrows Steamy Gay Sex Manga From Local Library
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Meh, par for the course for libraries. They never card people around here. Don't like it? Monitor what your kid reads, then, if you don't want this to happen again. Most manga books have age ratings on the back for a reason. 
I'm in agreement with the library on this on. I like the idea of being given a kind of 'we recommend' age-rating which parents can overturn if they wish, since not all kids are the same and it's ultimately up to the parent to restrict their access to such things.
However, I think a child shouldn't be allowed to purchase such material outside the influence of a parent: if the parent allows them to buy it that's one thing, but how do you prove the parent is allowing their child to read the books they're bringing home if they're not there to initially put them on loan?
However, I think a child shouldn't be allowed to purchase such material outside the influence of a parent: if the parent allows them to buy it that's one thing, but how do you prove the parent is allowing their child to read the books they're bringing home if they're not there to initially put them on loan?
I,m going to assume here that she went with a parent to the library. Couldn't her mother,father,aunt or uncle notice that AO sticker on the cover?
Like, that entire "romance" section in the library has tons of, ummm, steamy scenes in it. Difference? One is a manga and most people assume kids can read it. Just like when I went to see The Watchmen in theaters and saw parents bringing their kids in. Responsibility. At this point, it is completely the parents fault: to show how stupid some are, my wife use to work at a video rental store, and PARENTS complained when they let their kid watched Knocked Up.
For fucks sake, what do these people expect?
For fucks sake, what do these people expect?
It's Japan. Where "much worse" is always part of the escalation (I have seen things I'm not particularly proud of). Even if the dial is broken.Zack Alklazaris said:
I don't know about library porn, but at the video store I frequented as a kid illicit material was always shelved high up so only adults could reach it. Same thing goes for Playboys at the book store. [sub]I remember squinting my eyes like crazy trying to sneak a peek at that top shelf back in the day.[/sub]
Don't know how this library went about it, but obviously they should devise a similar system to keep this out of the hands of children.
I'm on the dad's side in this case.
Don't know how this library went about it, but obviously they should devise a similar system to keep this out of the hands of children.
I'm on the dad's side in this case.
I wonder if there'd be as much of a shitstorm a-brewing if it was just an erotic book and not a Manga...
I'm fairly certain anyone with interest and the ability to read can pick up the Game of Thrones series and from what I've heard there are plenty of violent decapitations and sex scenes in there.
Anyway, since when did Libraries have Manga in them? Does this happen in the UK? And most importantly, Where?
I'm fairly certain anyone with interest and the ability to read can pick up the Game of Thrones series and from what I've heard there are plenty of violent decapitations and sex scenes in there.
Anyway, since when did Libraries have Manga in them? Does this happen in the UK? And most importantly, Where?
Wait a minute... what am I seeing here?
Thats really the only problem that I see here. Other than that they should really have a system involving, I dunno electronic library cards maybe, that can check the borrower's age if they decide to use the self-check out rather than physical check-out. So that the machine could flag the attempt for attention and an attendant can come over and see whats what and ask whether thats really the sort of book the minor wants or to be really intrusive whether their parents (who should really be nearby anyway) consent to them taking it out. That should stop pre-pubescent girls (and boys possibily ¬.¬ Just sayin...) from ogling pictures of a sexual nature (or reading terrible literature e.g. Twilight, Shades of Grey, [Enter your most hated book here]). Also it'd be pretty handy for tracking books. (Tell me how they already have a system like this in place (barring the age flags) and that I'm a idiot.)
Alternatively, no they don't go to the anime comic book section to read it. [sub][sub][sub][sub]The daughter is testament to that fact.[/sub][/sub][/sub][/sub] Okay the last joke was a bit much...
¬.¬ Am I reading this right? This manga was classed as non-fiction? Wow. Either this 10 year old girl is good at checking out books under a different classification or there's a whole veil thats been lifted revealing that yaoi graphic novels are considered a learning material. Blows my mind. Though I wouldn't expect sexy time novels to be placed amongst non-fiction books of a sexual nature. /sarcasmGrey Carter said:
Thats really the only problem that I see here. Other than that they should really have a system involving, I dunno electronic library cards maybe, that can check the borrower's age if they decide to use the self-check out rather than physical check-out. So that the machine could flag the attempt for attention and an attendant can come over and see whats what and ask whether thats really the sort of book the minor wants or to be really intrusive whether their parents (who should really be nearby anyway) consent to them taking it out. That should stop pre-pubescent girls (and boys possibily ¬.¬ Just sayin...) from ogling pictures of a sexual nature (or reading terrible literature e.g. Twilight, Shades of Grey, [Enter your most hated book here]). Also it'd be pretty handy for tracking books. (Tell me how they already have a system like this in place (barring the age flags) and that I'm a idiot.)
He he.
Alternatively, no they don't go to the anime comic book section to read it. [sub][sub][sub][sub]
If the policy doesn't hold up in court then you live in a broken country. The code of conduct is considered a law. It's as simple as that, if you don't respect it, you can be taken to court on account of that. Their code of conduct is very clear there, they are not responsible for what ensues if the parent does not check his child. And what you said about that alcohol/cig comparison is just plain gibberish because those items are straight up outlawed to children because they are a clear way of hurting them. Books can influence but not break a person, it's why they are subjected to the "check them before you let your kids read them" treatment. Certain books that are considered to be of adult age are read by children as a means to make them think and inspire them, take "The Picture of Dorian Gray" as a prime example and pretty much anything that Alexandre Dumas has ever written as well.FelixG said:
I really don't know who to side with in this case... I mean, if Hero Heel is graphic in any way, I agree it shouldn't be made available to kids, but I also agree that it's the responsibility of the parents and guardians to check what their kids are reading in the first place.
I guess everyone's kind of at fault here.
On a funnier(?) note, reminds me of a time I was browsing the anime/cartoon section of a second-hand DVD store (mostly kiddie fare, and obviously entirely accessible to kids, but also Miyazaki & co.) and stumbled onto Urotsukidoji...
I guess everyone's kind of at fault here.
On a funnier(?) note, reminds me of a time I was browsing the anime/cartoon section of a second-hand DVD store (mostly kiddie fare, and obviously entirely accessible to kids, but also Miyazaki & co.) and stumbled onto Urotsukidoji...
The main thing to consider here:
IMO, fault lies with the parent.
If you cannot adequately supervise your child(ren), be prepared for life's little....well, oddities.
IMO, fault lies with the parent.
yuh-ow-ee is how I've been pronouncing it for the past few years but I could be wrong. Damn japanese and their completely seperate linguistic development!Zhukov said:
OT: Meh, there's tonnes of that stuff on the internet ready for ten year olds to access anyway via a quick google search.
Though yaoi does tend to be a fair bit rapey...
Silly girl, at her age I was using the internet for that stuff. And I turned out...fine?
I could understand someone not knowing what yaoi means, but there really isn't an excuse when the comic is labeled with Parental Advisory. The library done goofed up. On the other hand, I'm wondering if Mr. De Nevers is offended by libraries distributing pornography to children, or if he's offended by libraries distributing gay pornography to children.
Blaming the parents (or the uncle) is just a little bit ridiculous. Didn't you ever go to the library without adult supervision? If it really is such a big deal, then the library should the one to make sure that this material isn't available to minors. You might as well be showing porn after the Saturday morning cartoons and then blaming parents for not regulating what their kids are watching.
I could understand someone not knowing what yaoi means, but there really isn't an excuse when the comic is labeled with Parental Advisory. The library done goofed up. On the other hand, I'm wondering if Mr. De Nevers is offended by libraries distributing pornography to children, or if he's offended by libraries distributing gay pornography to children.
Blaming the parents (or the uncle) is just a little bit ridiculous. Didn't you ever go to the library without adult supervision? If it really is such a big deal, then the library should the one to make sure that this material isn't available to minors. You might as well be showing porn after the Saturday morning cartoons and then blaming parents for not regulating what their kids are watching.
I agree with both sides but I side moreso with the library in this case simply because of the slippery slope of censorship and book burning and all that nasty business. However, quite honestly, I do think it's a reasonable expectation that "Paul Goes to Summer Camp" not be located directly next to "People Fucking in Public Places".
Also, I'm confused by the fact that a comic is listed as "non-fiction" as though the cartoon images are based on actual events. I mean, there DO exist non-fiction comic books, but I'm betting this one ain't based on real events. At least I should hope not.
Also, I'm confused by the fact that a comic is listed as "non-fiction" as though the cartoon images are based on actual events. I mean, there DO exist non-fiction comic books, but I'm betting this one ain't based on real events. At least I should hope not.
What this guy said. There is no legal age restriction on books. Hell, if a 12 year old wanted to check out A Clockwork Orange and American Psycho, not only would people not complain, they would be compliment them on their mature reading ability.Reveras said:
So after a fast Google it, it looks like many other manga's out there only diff seems to be is the it happens to be a gay romance OMFG.(insert link to peter griffin saying "OMG whoo the hell caaaares") The adult in question failed abit on parenting and the libery kinda for letting the kid have it.....i guess. But really your not totaly stupid/ignorant of the world, even at that age. Just another case of lazy parenting and the fact its in the USA and the homosexual topic is always handled by retards and overwhelmingly poorly. Its 2012 ffs. And like many others have pointed out 50 SHADES OF GREY.....dont really need to point out the double standard here do I?