Australian R18+ Bill Hits a Snag

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Australian R18+ Bill Hits a Snag


Australia's quest for an R18+ videogame rating has hit another speedbump as the bill brought before Parliament has been referred to another inquiry.

I'm starting to think that what we're seeing in Australia's stumbling shuffle to a functional videogame rating system is not actually an irrational fear of the future but rather the longest-running and most elaborate legislative troll ever perpetrated by a modern Western government. How else can you possibly explain these bizarre shenanigans? Immediately after the bill to amend the Classification Act finally came before Parliament, the first step in what will still be a relatively drawn-out process to get the legislation passed, it was referred to yet another committee for further examination.

The news came by way of Member of Parliament Ed Husic, who tweeted [https://twitter.com/#!/edhusicMP/status/169683534557102080], "After we finally intro'd the R+18 Video Game laws to Parliament today, this arvo the Coalition referred the Bill to yet ANOTHER inquiry!" [An Australian-to-English Google translation revealed that "this arvo" means "this afternoon."]

According to Kotaku Australia [http://www.kotaku.com.au/2012/02/the-coalition-push-the-r18-bill-to-an-inquiry/], if just a single MP calls for an inquiry on a bill, it must be sent to a Standing Committee for deeper scrutiny. On the upside, these inquiries are usually fast-tracked and handled by people with knowledge of the proposed legislation in order to minimize any delays, so with any luck it'll be given a quick once-over and sent back.

"People will want to move quickly," Husic said, perhaps optimistically. " It could be one day inquiry and get it over and done with, the committee may just refer it straight back."

But if the bill ends up the subject of a full inquiry, the delay will be substantially longer. "First they have to call for public submissions - again," he continued. "They may hold a public hearing based on the submission. Then they have to draft a report, the Committee has to agree to that report and then they submit it back to Parliament."

And while it's possible that everything could be wrapped up in a month, Husic noted that the Australian Parliament doesn't sit in April, which could lead to even further delays.

It seems very unlikely that will happen, as like it or not, previous inquiries have been overwhelmingly in favor of the amendment and it's clearly time to get on with it. But as we've seen previously, opponents of the rating do draw some political water and may choose to continue the fight. Husic suggested that Australians who don't want to see the matter bogged down should contact their MPs about it. "If people want this inquiry to move quickly," he said, "they should make their voices heard on the issue."


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Fiz_The_Toaster

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Mother of God, they have to make this as painful as humanly possible don't they?

Halyah said:
Somehow I'm not really surprised despite thinking they'd not manage to delay it further at this point. I hope it goes over quickly and doesn't get as bogged down as it might get...
Can't say I'm surprised either, but I thinking this inquiry will be quickly done and go into voting.
 

draythefingerless

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oh for fucks...WHAT NOW? SHALL WE DOUBLE CHECK THE SPELLING OF THE BILL TOO? or maybe we can make it so that it is written in british english instead of australian english? OR PIG LATIN MAYBE? i swear if i was a big publisher developer with want to invest on australia id just go on a hearing to the parliament and say "if you dont want our multi billion business in your country, we'll just leave then".

bunch of morons.
 

sir.rutthed

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I was just wondering when we'd get an update on poor old Aus. Starts feeling weird if we go a few weeks without learning about this bill being halted again.
 

Knife-28

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Well, there is one good thing about the bill being delayed.....I'll most likely be 18 by the time they decide on it.
 

rufuslives

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Sigh. Yet another Member of Parliament who is in the Australian Christian Lobby's (ACL) pocket. Most of the Christians I know here in Aus think the ACL are a bunch of nutters.
 

Antitonic

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Of course the bill "hits a snag". The snag is it's trying to get past this joke of a government.
 
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Wow, Australia's parliament is almost as bad the U.S. congress. Almost.

Edit: To clarify I meant that the Australian parliament is better then the U.S. congress.
 

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Not sure I see the difficulty in the concept in general. Its part of the democratic process - its designed to make sure (or at least reduce the chance that) any proposed bills will not have unintended consequences regarding other legislation. In this situation I don't think it has much of an impact - what's another couple of days (best case) or even a couple of months?
 

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I'm a bit lost, is it delaying a ban on 18 rated games, or delaying a reasonable system allowing them to be rated then sold in Oz?

If it's delaying a ban, I'd like one of the folks involved to go in every day for the next 20 years and demand a new inquiry :)

"With respect to all here, I'd like to make an inquiry into the reasoning behind this bill and how much it sucks balls... same time tomorrow then?"
 

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Tedious drawn out bureaucracy the hallmark of western democracy :p

RagingNinja said:
Not sure I see the difficulty in the concept in general. Its part of the democratic process - its designed to make sure (or at least reduce the chance that) any proposed bills will not have unintended consequences regarding other legislation. In this situation I don't think it has much of an impact - what's another couple of days (best case) or even a couple of months?
Pretty much this.

Hang in there our Aussie brethren you'll get your 18+ certification eventually.
 

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Well, as a proud Australian, if I may say this for all Australians; FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-
 

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Wow Australia, hoe does your democracy actually stay functional? How does anything ever get done if badly needed legislation can get bounced-back like this?
"Badly needed"? It's a good idea, sure, but it doesn't particularly matter, why is why people are content to see it bounced back and forth like this.

A small amount of gamers are in favour of it, a small amount of conservatives are against it, and the vast majority of people don't particularly care at all.

If this was in anyway deemed important, it would have been solved years ago. Even at the best of times, there'd be more pressing issues people were worried about, with the GFC still going on, and war brewing in the Middle East (again) few people are going to get up in arms about video game classifications.
 

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Andy Chalk said:
....the longest-running and most elaborate legislative troll ever perpetrated by a modern Western government.
This is just about the best description I've heard of this yet. It's no secret that our government is a group of unorganised, indecisive fucks, but at this point I'm sure even they don't know why they're still trying to put it off.
 

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thaluikhain said:
Scrumpmonkey said:
Wow Australia, hoe does your democracy actually stay functional? How does anything ever get done if badly needed legislation can get bounced-back like this?
"Badly needed"? It's a good idea, sure, but it doesn't particularly matter, why is why people are content to see it bounced back and forth like this.

A small amount of gamers are in favour of it, a small amount of conservatives are against it, and the vast majority of people don't particularly care at all.

If this was in anyway deemed important, it would have been solved years ago. Even at the best of times, there'd be more pressing issues people were worried about, with the GFC still going on, and war brewing in the Middle East (again) few people are going to get up in arms about video game classifications.
Yeah I agree with this. When I first saw this my first thought was "Oh for fuck's sake!"
Then I went and checked if there was any news about Syria.
 

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At the moment, these inquiries are a non issue. The bill will enter legislation on January 1st 2013, so as long as all inquiries are completed prior to the last parliament meeting before this date there wont be a problem.
 

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Even if we do get this bill through, not much will change... the same games will be banned on our shores still (aka the new Syndicate) just our current MA games will be bumped up to r18+ with little to no additional content left in.

Oh well... just need some new blood i guess. Maybe things will look up... maybe once they are done with this they can fix our public education system? Or maybe our Nurses and Midwives can get some love... or maybe we can stop selling Uranium to unstable foreign governments...

Maybe...


/dream