13-Year Old Girl, Strip Searched ; For what ?

[Lukirre]

Meh.
I think the reputation of teens these days has done more than enough to warrant suspicion of illegal drugs/narcotics.
Perhaps it's because I've been desensitized to things like this.
Or perhaps it's because it doesn't effect me at all.
But this just seems like another day in Humanity to me.

 

[Computer-Noob]

If only the american teacher union wasnt so corrupt, there'd be multiple firings. Too bad the systems is so ridiculous it takes something like 4 years to actually fire a teacher for something like sexual abuse.

 

[Danglybits]

I wonder how much the Supreme Court's ruling will be influenced by having to be seen as 'tough on drugs' or 'teen drug abuse'.

 

[Knonsense]

It wasn't even a police officer. It was a school official.

It's not even a constitutional *question*. Some principal shouldn't have quasi-executive authority of that level. EVER.

 

[Avatar Roku]

The final ruling/verdict is supposedly June. However, like I posted earlier, one Chief Justice has already been quoted in saying, "Its a matter of embarrassment or in some cases even death." The attorney representing the school was the one making the quote and statement preceding the quote by saying, "I really like what the one Chief Justice (Name) said, .."

So it's not looking so hot.

Don't worry, the Justice he was quoting was Scalia, and he's well known for being steadfastedly conservative. She has a chance.

Wow! Well I heard about this two days ago.
So, the ***** that claimed the 13yr old gave her the medicine was expelled for lying? Question on how she got the medicine? Slapped? No? Well fuck.

I know. At this point, I'm almost more concerned with the fact that they let her pass the buck so easily.

"Where'd you get those pills!?"
"Uh, that girl over there!"
"Okay, you're free to go."

WTF?

 

[iubdude]

in america the 4th amendment is not applicable in schools. but it was completly out of line to actully strip-shearch the girl (well unless she had smokin' D's XD) no but in all seriousnes i am a anti-government guy that thinks that this is tottally disturbing and wrong and the school should have to pay some sort of reperation from the state and they should be completly vulnurable to any charges that the family decides to charge

 

[deathstrikesquirrel]

A thirteen year old girl was strip searched in Arizona's Safford Middle School until she was completely nude. The parent was never contacted and the search was conducted immediately on-the-spot in one of the school's offices.

Actually it was to her underwear, you may say 'not a big difference, idiot' but when you use loaded words like 'completely nude' it does change it

What would have been so dire as to require an explicit strip search of a child? What possession instituted an immediate search? A weapon you could assume, perhaps a dangerous illicit narcotic of the sort?

Ibuprofen, otherwise known as Motrin.

Again, the parent was never informed by any staff and only found out until the child told her when she was picked up by her mother later that day.

Another girl had told the principal that the girl had sold her prescription strength Ibuprofen, which (in case you don't know) is a crime and if that rumor got around that a girl was selling drugs and getting away with it, people could assume it was because she is white which would screw the school.

It is currently being taken to the Supreme Court where they will ACTUALLY DISCUSS whether or not it was warranted. Really? This requires a discussion in the supreme court when it's a clear violation of the 4th Amendment of the Constitution. For Ibuprofen of all things. This puts the matter in very dangerous territory, because if the ruling somehow passes as the search being acceptable then it will deem it perfectly acceptable in the future for all time until it is brought to the supreme court again, which would never happen. Completely allowing any school nearly just ground to strip search your child, your young brother or sister, niece.. think about this.

This is something you would expect in the most corrupt and disturbing fascist states in history. The mere notion that the act is going to be discussed from being right or wrong in the supreme court sickens me. Though it really doesn't fucking surprise me anymore.

It's called probable cause, you are blowing this out of proportion and using the slippery slope method here to state your argument which only serves to prove how weak it actually is. Lou Dobbs called and he wants his rage back

 

[Avatar Roku]

in america the 4th amendment is not applicable in schools. but it was completly out of line to actully strip-shearch the girl (well unless she had smokin' D's XD) no but in all seriousnes i am a anti-government guy that thinks that this is tottally disturbing and wrong and the school should have to pay some sort of reperation from the state and they should be completly vulnurable to any charges that the family decides to charge

Hey, I'm a pro-government guy who thinks this is disgusting! I smell sit-com!

A thirteen year old girl was strip searched in Arizona's Safford Middle School until she was completely nude. The parent was never contacted and the search was conducted immediately on-the-spot in one of the school's offices.

Actually it was to her underwear, you may say 'not a big difference, idiot' but when you use loaded words like 'completely nude' it does change it

What would have been so dire as to require an explicit strip search of a child? What possession instituted an immediate search? A weapon you could assume, perhaps a dangerous illicit narcotic of the sort?

Ibuprofen, otherwise known as Motrin.

Again, the parent was never informed by any staff and only found out until the child told her when she was picked up by her mother later that day.

Another girl had told the principal that the girl had sold her prescription strength Ibuprofen, which (in case you don't know) is a crime and if that rumor got around that a girl was selling drugs and getting away with it, people could assume it was because she is white which would screw the school.

It is currently being taken to the Supreme Court where they will ACTUALLY DISCUSS whether or not it was warranted. Really? This requires a discussion in the supreme court when it's a clear violation of the 4th Amendment of the Constitution. For Ibuprofen of all things. This puts the matter in very dangerous territory, because if the ruling somehow passes as the search being acceptable then it will deem it perfectly acceptable in the future for all time until it is brought to the supreme court again, which would never happen. Completely allowing any school nearly just ground to strip search your child, your young brother or sister, niece.. think about this.

This is something you would expect in the most corrupt and disturbing fascist states in history. The mere notion that the act is going to be discussed from being right or wrong in the supreme court sickens me. Though it really doesn't fucking surprise me anymore.

It's called probable cause, you are blowing this out of proportion and using the slippery slope method here to state your argument which only serves to prove how weak it actually is. Lou Dobbs called and he wants his rage back

No, they made her strip to her underwear, then take that off and shake it out. It's in the article. Also, it wasn't just some random girl who said "Oh, by the way, so-and-so over there has ibuprofen", it was someone they'd caught with it it passed the buck to avoid punishment, which is certainly not credible.

 

[zacaron]

I always have sharp scrap metal and a screw driver in my pack (metals from tech class) so If anyone trys that stuff on me it wouldn't go well.

 

[Sneaky Paladin]

In school I once brought Ibuprofen since I have chronic headaches. I once used them by telling the teacher I had a headache and went to the nurse to take it. Hell I still keep them in my backpack incase and no one gives me any shit about it.

I honestly dont see why to do this about a positive medicine that probably wont hurt you since you probably cant carry that much pills in a backpack or on your body without someone noticing. I call BULLSHIT!!!

 

[demonsaber]

I would love to see them strip search me lol. I would be laughing my ass off the whole time. I however have a sick sense of humor (and a completely horrible physique). To the mass public however, this is damaging and downright wrong. I would have told the principal to go fuck itself and refuses to do anything until my parent/lawyer arrived. If they physically forced the issue, then it becomes assault and I sue the shit out of them.

Seriously though, this is a major issue and if it get's voted that this behavior is acceptable, I am taking my future child and home schooling him. (along with any other children I may have)

 

[zeroharpuia]

Going THAT far is never warranted.

 

[Rathen]

What bloody F@#king tosser decided that was a good idea!?!? a 13 year old girl!?! over MOTRIN!?!?!

Maybe they saw the pack, thought it could have been something like extacey, or some other pill based drug, asked if she had anything, but then to go as far as strip searching her, I mean they would have had to get the police involved to do that surely, not just a teacher, or even a school security guard. If nothing else the school should issue a public and unreserved apology over the situation, but to be honest that is just... sick.. messed up. I hope they sue.

...and I'm against sueing people, for just about anything, but that's rediculous.

Even if they had heard about or seen such pills on her person, then the reasonable thing to do is to bring her into an office. This puts her under supervised "custody", clearly if it is on her person she can't get rid of the pills under supervision. They then search her locker and backpack etc ;That is fairly acceptable. (Locker is school property, backpack meets reasonable search)

Now, if for whatever reason they deem it necessary to further search her person, i.e. her body. Then they have to at first notify authorities and her parental guardians in which case the guardian can deny the search requiring the authorities to obtain a warrant in order to do so. Which they obviously wouldn't do for a couple of ibuprofen pills. An immediate search isn't necessary because the pills on her person have no way of doing harm to herself or other persons. Get my drift? Common sense policy. Searching her immediately because she supposedly distributed the so-called pills to others does not rip a hole in the time/space continuum and remove the other pills from other people. Total nonsense.

Again, if the student is brought into an office under 'custody' and supervision, there is no need for a "search" because the pills go nowhere. The student is isolated from discarding the evidence or further distributing.

I'm not disagreeing... I completely agree that it's a totally f***ed up state of affairs, and utterly shambolic that it is required to even be discussed by the supreme court, it is nothing short of a travisty of justice.

The world is a totally f***ed place at times...

i agree wtih the above ladies and gents and if the supreme court of america doesnt do something about this were all in trouble, becasue there becomes an excuse for child porn and sexual assult on a minor!

 

[AlexTheBucket2112]

In the video they claim to have tried to respect the dignity of the girl.

Lets do a recap...

...see's naked.
...in a school.
...with others watching. (principal, officer, etc.)

That is every childs worst...fucking...nightmare...
Has the definition of respect changed recently? Did I just not get the memo?

 

[Ryuzix]

Thats just sick, excuse me, i have to go to the bathroom where i will unfortunately taste my lunch again :S

 

[WhatsaVagina]

I actually read this article in the newspaper, The girl had problems, was fat, FAT, and too self-conscious about her body. The girl was suspicious of having ibuprofen and was searched, then a few days later, a guy had ibuprofen, and told the teachers that the girl had it. She was strip searched again, but found nothing.

I think if you are suspected to have a drug, searched, then someone TOLD people you have it, they have the right to strip search you, if neccesary. As a dude, I could give two shits about being strip searched. But it makes me wonder, how does she change in the locker rooms after gym? How does any school conduct involving changing clothes affect her? God, it makes you wonder.

/care

 

[Avatar Roku]

Teachers are paedophiles. Nuff said...
Anyway this is bullshit. I mean I know the american legal system is a fucking joke but I at least thought this shit was illegal. That strip searches had to be conducted by police offers of the same gender as the suspect and in the case of a minor in the presence of their legal guardian. I thought there was no argument about that at all.
Fire the teachers and charge them with sexual harassment/assault.

We all thought that too. Unfortunately, in a post-Columbine US, people are a bit quick to give schools every possible right, including the unnecessary and outright bewildering, to make sure it doesn't happen again. That's what panic does to you, I guess.

if they thought the girl was committing substance abuse then they should have done it - but yeah they should have asked the parents

How exactly do you commit substance abuse with Ibuprofen? Can you even get high off it?