TheScientificIssole said:
Hey kids, let's not talk to parents and solve problems, how about we FUCKING MURDER someone!
Christ, why does this shit exist? Fucked-up maniacs who can't see the concept of everything ever from someone. He should be proud that he had the balls to stab a living, breathing bit of the world ELEVEN FUCKING TIMES, and avoid the consequence.
I mean, REALLY! In a few sentences or a few years of the least important part of your life you could have been done with this, but instead the kid murdered someone. In two years both of the people involved would be completely different from what they were, but now one is dead, and the other is a murderer. Who here thinks he can just grow away from the fact that he killed someone. He won't, because he's a psychopath. I hope everyone at school disassociates themselves from this dick and he suffers.
JESUS, I needed that.
EDIT: I spoke out of reasoning, this kid should be hanged or shot or stabbed. He is a fucking hazard to the development of a civilized world, and as it seems LOTS of the Escapist thinks that this isn't murder. IT IS, One argument seems to be that adrenaline cause 11 stabbings, well this kid was being bullied he wasn't strong enough to push through human flesh with a knife fast enough to regret his choices. If I were his parents I would go to the late-abortion clinic immediately.
I was going to avoid this thread but this just made me mad. that entire hateful disgusting post is wrong on so many levels so I feel the need to argue with you.
"Hey kids, let's not talk to parents and solve problems, how about we FUCKING MURDER someone!"
how do you know he didn't talk to his parents? what can they do? all the soothing words in world mean nothing when you are being beaten and tormented on a regular basis
"Christ, why does this shit exist? Fucked-up maniacs who can't see the concept of everything ever from someone."
what?
"mean, REALLY! In a few sentences or a few years of the least important part of your life you could have been done with this, but instead the kid murdered someone."
If by few sentences what you mean is that he should've talked to teachers and you obviously don't understand how school systems work frequently the response of teachers and other authorities is to simply ignore the problem or make the most token passing attempts at fixing it amounting to little more than a slap on the wrist to bullies who attempt to traumatize people for the hell of it. the second part of your statement "a few years of the least important part of your life" is what pissed me off the most. just to start least important? the teenage years should be one of the fast parts of your life with the minimum responsibility and the opportunity to simply enjoy life something that you can only do for one very short part of your life, secondly "a few years"? are you seriously FUCKING suggesting that an innocent child should have given up years of his life for the amusement of assholes who get off on torturing people weaker than them? that he should've just rolled over and been miserable because you think it would be the right thing?
"In two years both of the people involved would be completely different from what they were"
you assume
"Who here thinks he can just grow away from the fact that he killed someone."
where exactly does it say that? it's entirely possible that the kid who was being bullied was already traumatized by the bullying and could possibly be even more traumatized by now having a death on his conscience, but you assume that he's some cold-blooded psychopath who was instantly going to be over this.
"He won't, because he's a psychopath."
you assume (hey look a theme!)
"I hope everyone at school disassociates themselves from this dick and he suffers."
That is one of the most illogical vile poisonous statements I've ever seen on the Escapist, and that's impressive. (in a bad way)
"JESUS, I needed that."
and as a consequence I needed this.
"I spoke out of reasoning"
If this is your calm logical reasoning I fear to see you angry.
"He is a fucking hazard to the development of a civilized world,"
How? although I do somewhat agree a distant way that perhaps he should receive counseling to ensure that he's not suffering from psychological trauma as a result of this or other incidents.
"One argument seems to be that adrenaline cause 11 stabbings, well this kid was being bullied he wasn't strong enough to push through human flesh with a knife fast enough to regret his choices."
what? I'm entirely sure I don't understand what you're trying to say with this statement but knives are sharp and can cut through things up very easily with a minimum of force I know because I cook and therefore use kitchen knives to cut through things that may very well be more resilient than human skin (or occasionally my hand, oops) with a bare minimum of effort, so through a combination of rage, fear, and adrenaline, it is entirely possible that 11 stab wounds could be inflicted before he fully grasped his actions.
"If I were his parents I would go to the late-abortion clinic immediately."
Not only is this statement vile it also immensely hypocritical, the bullying victim here is evil because he killed somebody so you think the appropriate response should be for him to be killed it off in cold blood like a rabid dog? your entire post reeks of something written by someone who thinks that they are the all-knowing arbitrator of justice with the instant knowledge decide who is right and wrong.
As for my own opinion on the issue unless further evidence comes up I see no reason to doubt that this was self-defense, and I think that while sad the importance of this event is that it should call attention to the fact that bullying is not a minor issue that needs to be ignored but something that is terrible and can frequently result in the death of one party or another
and something must be done about the incredibly apathetic attitude of school officials and law enforcement in order to prevent things like this from happening.
