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Nonbinary Teen Nex Benedict Died By Suicide Following School Fight, Medical Examiner Says
Nex Benedict's death was ruled as a suicide more than a month after their death, reports the Oklahoma Medical Examiner.
16-year-old Oklahoma teenager beaten to death in a bathroom.
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I’m not entirely sure I believe it, but it’s depressingly probable.Nonbinary Teen Nex Benedict Died By Suicide Following School Fight, Medical Examiner Says
Nex Benedict's death was ruled as a suicide more than a month after their death, reports the Oklahoma Medical Examiner.people.com
I kinda suspected it when they made a point of mentioning they were waiting on toxicology. Guessing an OD.
200-odd thousand kids get beat up by other kids in school every year in the US. A few thousand kill themselves as a result of bullying. Less than that are killed directly by bullying. This case only got the time and attention it did because of the non-binary angle when there's a depressing number of examples out there.
If we're lucky, they'll charge the girls with something, maybe some variety of assault. Being young girls they probably won't get any serious punishment. If they're also pretty and/or white they definitely won't get any serious punishment (maybe some probation and a suspended sentence if they want to go hard on them).
If BrawlMan was talking about just generally trying juveniles as adults, he'd be on his soapbox about how the US is like the worst country in the world for this and sending them to prison is ruining so many lives before they really even begin. But when you go case by case and get so emotional about everything, you just end up picking and choosing your ethics and you have no consistency whatsoever.
The United States has the obscene distinction of being number one in the world for the worst policies on the treatment of youth in the justice system, and youth of color bear the brunt of our harsh and regressive policies.
No other country in the world routinely prosecutes youth in adult criminal court, an estimated 250,000 youth in the U.S. annually. No other country places youth in adult jails and prisons on a regular basis. According to the American Civil Liberties Union, nearly 100,000 youth are cycled through adult jails and prisons annually. No other country in the world comes close to the U.S.’ dependence on incarceration in juvenile detention centers and youth prisons. More than 60,000 youth are placed in these facilities.
With Juveniles, the World Should Not Follow Our Lead | The Imprint
by Liz Ryan The United States has the obscene distinction of being number one in the world for the worst policies on the treatment of youth in the justice system, and […]
imprintnews.org
But shouldn't we not try kids as adults like the rest of the world (link above)?
Nonbinary Teen Nex Benedict Died By Suicide Following School Fight, Medical Examiner Says
Nex Benedict's death was ruled as a suicide more than a month after their death, reports the Oklahoma Medical Examiner.
Same here. What exactly did Nex kill themselves with? I've read three of these articles, and none of them are giving out descriptions.
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Apparently it's come out. A Mix anti-depressants and antihistamines of in the blood.
Oh they don't hate the cops, they hate them not being on their side. They want the cops to be their blunt instrument not to enforce the rule of law but just to enforce their ideas of beliefs on others and pretend reality is how they say it is.
I'm sure Brawlman would prefer them burned at the stake like the good old days.
Former students, parents speak on anti-LGBTQ bullying at Nex Benedict's school
Nex Benedict's death has been ruled a suicide, shining a renewed spotlight on the intensifying environment in Oklahoma schools and anti-LGBTQ bullying.
abcnews.go.com
Disappointing, but not surprising. With suicide as the COD, making any charges stick would be incredibly difficult. I wish there was a way to write a law that would make the bullies culpable for driving them to the point of suicide, but that's such a dangerous can of worms to open as well.
Civil suit would be filed by the parents. Very winnable if they can find evidence of the bullying.
That's true. I meant making criminal charges stick or a law making it a crime to do what they did. Civil suits are another matter, and not just because of a different name. Different burden of proof, for starters ("beyond a reasonable doubt" vs. "preponderance of evidence").
Actually didn't that girl go to prison just recently for convincing that kid to himself over text? There was whole todo about it. I think the problem here is ..to be frank....its Oklahoma. Its one of the more corrupt alt-right states with terrible policing and policies towards LGBTQ+. I think there's a effort being put forth to sweep this under the rug asap. So yeah I believe the laws are there to charge this bullies, I just don't think the government wants any part of it. I just think the only justice that can occur would be civil.
As soon as it was ruled suicide there was no chance of criminal charges for the death. I was holding out home for assault charges, but I'm not too surprised.
Yeah, I could see a wrongful death suit being winnable. Largely because it just has to be slightly more likely than not that their conduct led to Nex's death and courts are more willing to put some damages on young girls than any kind of incarceration (which would be on the table for a criminal homicide charge of any stripe).