Lazy?ZeroMachine said:
Living in a province where there are very cold, freezing winters I prefer hand crank windows. Automatic windows have been known to freeze, usually in the closed position but sometimes open after going through a drive through. Also what's a little exercise?theSHAH said:
Funny you should say that. I just turned in a 2012 Nissan Versa sedan the other day. I had to use one as a rental while my actual car as being repaired (asshat did a hit-and-run on it). I know it's a rental and most have some options removed, but good lord...it was bad. Here's it's lovely (or lack of) list of accessories:theSHAH said:
In my experience, the electronics start to completely crap out after about 8-10 years, starting with the windows, then the power locks, then the AC, and then lord only knows after that. Although if you live in a really dry state that also doesn't get very cold in the winter, your cars might last longer. In Florida, the humidity gets to everything eventually -- to the point that it's never a question of whether an old house will have mold, but what kind of mold it has, and if it's dangerous or just ugly. Anyway, any car made further back in time than 2002 or 2003 is going to have suspect electronics at this point. While that may not be an issue for people who lease a new car every five years, some of us literally drive the things until we get a repair bill that would wind up costing more than a replacement bill, at which point we've usually been car payment free for several years. Sure, the car may be pretty crappy by the time it finally gives up the ghost, but that's money in our pocket in the years between paying it off and selling it off, and it gets us where we need to go in the meantime.SeeIn2D said:
Does it not have a working air conditioner? Because as I pointed out above, the windows usually go before the AC, so if it had had power windows stock, chances are you'd be ACless and unable to open a window. Bad combination, there.-Samurai- said:
Okay, that is ridiculous. Manual windows and side mirrors I can understand. Manual locks are a bit much, since the electronic version of those always has a manual backup, but it's not too big of a killer. Only one key-hole, though, not to mention all of the other crappy little things abut the car (no mirror in the visor, lacking adjustment options all over the place, no arm rest...) are just inexcusable. And the inaccurate speedometer? How is a car with something like that even street legal? Honestly. By the way, are you sure you didn't miscount? Because 9 tick marks not counting the zero and the 10 would be sufficient for an accurate reading. 8 total is just bizarre, not to mention unsafe, since speed limits tend to change in increments of 5, not 10.Dr. Pepper Unlimited said:
Except that one tick mark is at the five mile an hour increment. The problem with the whole 8 tick marks total thing is if you were in, say, a 55 zone (really common in the US), you'd have a hard time telling whether you were actually going 55, or a mile or two under or over. It's especially bad for people who like to abuse the rule that lets you get away with 5 MPH over the speed limit in most cases.TestECull said:What's the big deal? They're cheaper to make, and usually last longer. Example: The power windows in my mom's 1996 minivan don't work very well, the manual ones in my 1985 Ford pickup do.
Stop spazzing out because you have to un-lazy yourself enough to wind a window down. Also, if you can't afford a new car that has power windows, look used, there's no shame in owning an older car.
As long as it shows in increments of ten it doesn't take much brainpower to figure out how fast you're going. Quarter way past 10 would be roughly 12(12.5 if you want to be pedantic about it), halfway would be fifteen, derp-de-fuckin'-derp. I'm not sure why people need tick marks on their speedos for it. Hell, mine only has three marks! One under the numbers, one in between.Owyn_Merrilin said:
Look at my speedo. It goes up in spots of ten, with just one tick mark between each number. Yet, somehow, through either pure clairvoyance, a mastery of the Force, or perhaps just some basic goddamn math skills, I manage to keep my speeds within the limits on the signs, as evidenced by the lack of speeding tickets I have. Haven't even so much as been pulled over for speeding. Or anything, really.
Oh, and that's when my speedo was working. It no longer does, as evidenced by it being pegged while sitting still in that picture. It has been that way for two and a half years...I still haven't been pulled over for speeding, and using my smartphone's GPS speedo app I have confirmed I'm not just lucky on that one.[footnote]If the cig lighter worked I could use that app every time, but it doesn't and my phone's battery lasts just one hour with that app running, so I leave it off 99% of the time[/footnote]
tl;dr: You don't need a speedo with five bajillion tick marks on it to drive at a legal speed, just use some basic math and a little common sense. Or the Force, if you can't use that math and common sense. Honestly, if you need a speedo at all you're either unfit to drive that car or you haven't put more than a handful of miles on it, because it doesn't take long to get a feel for roughly how fast you're going without looking at the speedo at all.
I wish I took a photo, but sadly I did not, so all I have is my memory to go by at this point. The dash for the different upgrades is different, so I think this dash is exclusive to a DX version of the Versa, or whatever the lowest end would be. A quick google search didn't yield any photos that were blown up enough to check the hatch marks. It's weird too, because given ALL those issues, the car drove nicely, got amazing mileage (probably because everything was ripped out and it weighed 10lbs) and had wonderful turning abilities.Owyn_Merrilin said:
The only automatic gears that have a clear benefit over manuals are the CVTs types and they lack in reliability.Cheshire the Cat said:
