2012 SOLAR BOMB
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This sounds very much like Y2K to me. I'm not sold on the idea of a cataclysmic solarmax. Either way, it's going to happen, so I don't see why we should spend time and resources to prevent the inevitable. Unless we're going to build a lead shell to hide the whole planet in between now and then, it's best to just carry on and get what we can done.
I've listened to experts on the sun and they have pointed out the obvious:
The sun goes through these periods many times in our life, IN OUR LIFETIME!
The worse solar radiation we will see come from the sun in this 'oh so dangerous, high spike' would not be enough to do any damage to the earth at all. It might, at the worse, screw with tele-communications for a brief period of time but guess what: we have so many redundancies in place that it is ridiculous to think we would have a communication blackout that would end the world.
This would be the same as picking up a telephone and hearing a higher then average background noise and maybe having a higher rate of dropped calls. Hell, bad service providers already do worse damage then this solar radiation spike can ever dream of doing to us.
All high tech, including satellites by the way, are far more shielded then they where 20 years ago when we where starting to mess around with electronics in this way. This shielding isn't cause of some fear of solar radiation, by the way, but a simple necessary in a world where we bombard ourselves with far more electronic waves on a daily bases. We realized we have to design things in a way to stop them from interfering with each other, with the side effect of being more resistant to surges.
If the worse does come around, and we loose say 75% of the network which in itself is insanely high a number, do you really think it will lead to the end of the world? Of course not, we already produce a world wide web that has thousands of redundant cables crossing over land as well as sea! Why... well we are breaking these wires fine enough on our own that we realized having a system where one erroneous ship could cut communication between the States and Europe was a dumb thing to happen the very first time it did.
Oh, by the way that black out between the two major continents, and all their financial institutions, was just a foot note in the news and didn't cause more then a few points of a drop in the stock market. *Gasp* really end of the world there.
Solar radiation is one of the most stupid 'end of the world on 2012' theories out there, second only to communication blackout... mixing the two does not make it a winning theory.
The sun goes through these periods many times in our life, IN OUR LIFETIME!
The worse solar radiation we will see come from the sun in this 'oh so dangerous, high spike' would not be enough to do any damage to the earth at all. It might, at the worse, screw with tele-communications for a brief period of time but guess what: we have so many redundancies in place that it is ridiculous to think we would have a communication blackout that would end the world.
This would be the same as picking up a telephone and hearing a higher then average background noise and maybe having a higher rate of dropped calls. Hell, bad service providers already do worse damage then this solar radiation spike can ever dream of doing to us.
All high tech, including satellites by the way, are far more shielded then they where 20 years ago when we where starting to mess around with electronics in this way. This shielding isn't cause of some fear of solar radiation, by the way, but a simple necessary in a world where we bombard ourselves with far more electronic waves on a daily bases. We realized we have to design things in a way to stop them from interfering with each other, with the side effect of being more resistant to surges.
If the worse does come around, and we loose say 75% of the network which in itself is insanely high a number, do you really think it will lead to the end of the world? Of course not, we already produce a world wide web that has thousands of redundant cables crossing over land as well as sea! Why... well we are breaking these wires fine enough on our own that we realized having a system where one erroneous ship could cut communication between the States and Europe was a dumb thing to happen the very first time it did.
Oh, by the way that black out between the two major continents, and all their financial institutions, was just a foot note in the news and didn't cause more then a few points of a drop in the stock market. *Gasp* really end of the world there.
Solar radiation is one of the most stupid 'end of the world on 2012' theories out there, second only to communication blackout... mixing the two does not make it a winning theory.
Indeed.Pirate Kitty said:
As a side note I'll add: considering that the international space station is reasonably outside of the the Earth's magnetic field, it's a wonder that the inhabitants, and more so the electronics, aren't continuously in need of replacement due to the nearby star.
OH MY GOD!! WE'RE DOOMED!! Just like we were in 2000, the 80's, the cold war, etc, etc, etc.... let's just get used to it, humans are doomed anyway, from our own doing's or nature, we can't stop it.... so just live life, and get on with it...
FINALLY!! A world apocalypse!
I figure I'll thrive in that situation. No law... but I doubt it'll be that drastic... but a guy can hope?
I figure I'll thrive in that situation. No law... but I doubt it'll be that drastic... but a guy can hope?
Eh, I'm no scientist, so I really don't know what to make of this news...
Good sir, I do like your thinking.Boneasse said:
Worse case scenario, this disrupt power grids, the internet, communications, and a whole host of other issues. It would be bad, but not Earth shattering.
Most likely we won't even notice it. This is not the end of days. That won't happen til Lord Zemu returns to give all the non believers purple nurples.
Most likely we won't even notice it. This is not the end of days. That won't happen til Lord Zemu returns to give all the non believers purple nurples.
You have one of those "When will the world end" bets going? I love how stupid some people are (I'm guessing you're the one betting the world doesn't end). My [sub]ctrazy[/sub] uncle had a bet like that with a friend once. One thought the world would end on X day X month X year and the other thought the world would end on X day X month X year. Then, my mom pointed out that the bets were stupid, because if either of them won, they couldn't collect the bet.Ekonk said:
The problem with that is this: 99% of ALL modern electronics are shielded against electrical interference. That includes solar flares.
Do you know what happens if an EM pulse occurs? It shuts down your computer. You turn it back on, and nothing's bad (unless you didn't save before it happens).
The world won't end, nor will electronics stop working in 2012. If you're worried? Just shut down whatever you wanna protect before it occurs. Problem solved.
Seriously, Electromagnetic pulses are GREATLY exaggerated in effect.
Do you know what happens if an EM pulse occurs? It shuts down your computer. You turn it back on, and nothing's bad (unless you didn't save before it happens).
The world won't end, nor will electronics stop working in 2012. If you're worried? Just shut down whatever you wanna protect before it occurs. Problem solved.
Seriously, Electromagnetic pulses are GREATLY exaggerated in effect.
Note to self: Wrap my diabetic supplies and a fridge in lead...
I seriously hope that won't happen. If it does, I am gonna get screwed over!
I seriously hope that won't happen. If it does, I am gonna get screwed over!
Humanity has been a tireless force for change in the short existence we've had on this planet ... it's foolish to think that we couldn't survive (even in a worst case scenario of wholesale devastation to electronics and satellites) just because the lights go out and there's no tv.
Sure it would be bad for a decade or two in a worst case scenario, but really what's a measly decade when all in all our lives are very well safeguarded (in the West anyways) and it's not likely that this provision of safety will merely disappear just because the Sun has a temper tantrum.
Sure it would be bad for a decade or two in a worst case scenario, but really what's a measly decade when all in all our lives are very well safeguarded (in the West anyways) and it's not likely that this provision of safety will merely disappear just because the Sun has a temper tantrum.
well no matter what happens I'm investing in the only currency that will mean anything after a global appocalypse... copper jacketed lead.
As some of the more educated have noted, solar flares aren't that big of a deal due to Earth magnetic protection field, however, if they are massive enough, they can cause enough *damage*(so to speak) to the protective field to weaken it, so that more charged particles can get through. And that is not good, sure it may only be as much as to disturb com links but it can be much much worse. I for one am hoping for pretty big one to fry all the tech and send us back to the stone age for a while and perhaps thanks to that sort out some major problems .