Zynga Seems More Sinister Than You Might Expect

Recommended Videos

vansau

Mortician of Love
May 25, 2010
6,107
0
0
Zynga Seems More Sinister Than You Might Expect

Aside from dubious marketing tactics and nasty lawsuits, Farmville maker Zynga looks even more villainous thanks to a damning feature article.

Whoever said "there's no such thing as bad press" obviously never heard of Zynga, the casual games company that has come to dominate Facebook while simultaneously earning a pretty bad rep in the media. Aside from <a href=http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/102938-Zynga-In-Trouble-Over-Mafia-Wars-Guerrilla-Marketing>being accused of defacing the streets of San Francisco, <a href=http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/103036-Digital-Chocolate-Slips-the-Concrete-Shoes-on-Zynga>being sued by Digital Chocolate, and <a href=http://forbrukerportalen.no/Artikler/2010/Facebook_and_Zynga_reported_to_the_Data_Inspectorate>being reported to the Norwegian Data Inspectorate for breaches of the Data Protection Act, the company is now the focus of a new feature in SF Weekly that does not paint a flattering picture in the slightest.

The article, "FarmVillains" essentially explains that Zynga's CEO Mark Pincus (seen here) encouraged productivity over originality at his company. In layman's terms, Pincus told his developers to just copy the games created by competing studios instead of trying to make better titles.

According to an ex-Zynga employee, Pincus once told his underlings, "I don't fucking want innovation. You're not smarter than your competitor. Just copy what they do and do it until you get their numbers."

Another ex-contractor, who claimed he was offered freelance work from Zynga to copy a game, had this to say: "I was around meetings where things like that were being discussed, and the ramifications of things like that were being discussed - the fact that they'd probably be sued by the people who designed the game. And the thought was, 'Well, that's fine, we'll settle.' Our case wasn't really defensible."

The overall article is pretty unsettling. Until recently, I was under the impression that Zynga was a plucky underdog that had gotten lucky and hit a goldmine thanks to its casual games. Now, I'm just glad I never played any of their games nor gave any of my money to someone like Pincus.

Source: SF Weekly via <a href=http://www.gamepolitics.com/2010/09/08/farmvillians-or-art-stealing>GamePolitics

Permalink
 
Feb 13, 2008
19,430
0
0
vansau said:
Until recently, I was under the impression that Zynga was a plucky underdog that had gotten lucky and hit a goldmine thanks to its casual games.
Jeez, you can tell you're a new lad around here. ;)

But seriously;
Pincus once told his underlings, "I don't fucking want innovation. You're not smarter than your competitor. Just copy what they do and do it until you get their numbers."
That sounds like almost every boss I've ever had.
 

Onyx Oblivion

Borderlands Addict. Again.
Sep 9, 2008
17,032
0
0
And this company nearly won March Mayhem?

Zynga doesn't deserve any of their success.

But I know how to stop them.

Shut down every other gaming company on earth, so that they don't have ideas to steal!
 

Vohn_exel

Residential Idiot
Oct 24, 2008
1,357
0
0
Yeah I'm pretty sure thats what they did. I mean, Farmtown was out before Farmville, right? Apparently the games are extremely similar. I don't really play their games that much but I don't think they're a very good company.
 

Kragg

New member
Mar 30, 2010
730
0
0
The_root_of_all_evil said:
Pincus once told his underlings, "I don't fucking want innovation. You're not smarter than your competitor. Just copy what they do and do it until you get their numbers."
That sounds like almost every boss I've ever had.
hah really? i thought the going trend was to carve a niche and specialise in perfection, cause if anything gets big/popular it gets gobbled up/copied by others with more money
 

Bretty

New member
Jul 15, 2008
864
0
0
LOL I wonder if people will start to realize now that them being in March Mayhem was a mistake?
 
Feb 13, 2008
19,430
0
0
Kragg said:
hah really? i thought the going trend was to carve a niche and specialise in perfection, cause if anything gets big/popular it gets gobbled up/copied by others with more money
I'm not really that sure, as soon as I get dragged in and hear the word "fucking", I just switch off and nod. Works for angry partners as well.

When they say "I'm glad we had this talk", you know you're free to go.
 

Fingerthing

New member
Mar 19, 2010
52
0
0
"I don't fucking want innovation. You're not smarter than your competitor. Just copy what they do and do it until you get their numbers."

ouch. do we really want someone that says stuff like this to be the pioneer of "casual gaming"?
 

JourneyThroughHell

New member
Sep 21, 2009
5,010
0
0
It's a pretty well-known fact Zynga steals the concepts for their games. This makes me more and more happy I never gave a chance to FarmVille.
 

mjc0961

YOU'RE a pie chart.
Nov 30, 2009
3,847
0
0
I'm happy knowing that by not being on Facebook, I've never played this jerkoff's games.
 

Loonerinoes

New member
Apr 9, 2009
889
0
0
Having read fully the linked article all I have to say is...ouch! That evil, huh? I wonder if these guys are running against the East India Trading Company for the title of 'Most evil company in all history.' Granted they don't work for the government in a linked capacity yet perhaps, but still...doesn't mean that can't be 'fixed'. :p
 
Feb 4, 2010
116
0
0
Isn't Farmville Harvest Moon without the charm? I can pick up one of those games for pennies on the dime so I think I'll stick to that. Not so much because they're more original but because Zynga openly despises their customers. That's not how you do business, guys.
 

DannibalG36

New member
Mar 29, 2010
347
0
0
As odd as this may sound, I really admire Pincus's attitude. So what if he's not an ideal game developer? He definitely isn't in this business to make a glorious, creative contribution to video games as an art - he's in it to make money.

Is there suddenly something wrong with wanting to make tons of cash and being honest about how you're going to it?
 

Loonerinoes

New member
Apr 9, 2009
889
0
0
DannibalG36 said:
As odd as this may sound, I really admire Pincus's attitude. So what if he's not an ideal game developer? He definitely isn't in this business to make a glorious, creative contribution to video games as an art - he's in it to make money.

Is there suddenly something wrong with wanting to make tons of cash and being honest about how you're going to it?
No. But I would say it's wrong to not warn your customers upfront about this being your attitude - that is NOT being very honest to begin with really. And do you really think all of those facebook peeps even bother to look up, of their own initiative, as to what Zynga does and how its CEO thinks?

You can state it's just 'exploiting the dumb fucks who deserve to be exploited', but in the end that doesn't stop you from being the kind of person who relishes in squeezing fellow human beings dry of their cash with dishonest cons and scams. And if you still don't see anything evil with that well then...feel free to apply to Zynga I guess.
 

Nikolaz72

This place still alive?
Apr 23, 2009
2,125
0
0
Onyx Oblivion said:
And this company nearly won March Mayhem?

Zynga doesn't deserve any of their success.

But I know how to stop them.

Shut down every other gaming company on earth, so that they don't have ideas to steal!
This is so crazy that it might just work! But lets take the easier solution and shut off the internet. HAH take that Zynga! No more browsargames!