Is Anakin Skywalker a Positive Role Model?

The Wooster

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Is Anakin Skywalker a Positive Role Model?


Sure, he was a petulant, child-murdering, republic-betraying monster, but he really loved his mum.

Game Developer Ross Mills [https://twitter.com/#!/ozmills] is not a man to sit idly by as our youth are corrupted by poor role models, oh no. When he noticed that the Early Learning Center, a UK outlet that deals in delightful educational toys for impressionable kiddywinks, was selling toys based on Anakin Skywalker he knew he had to speak out.

"Now, I didn't really mind," blogged Mills. "I merely thought it amusing that the murderer of 'Younglings' would be thought of as a positive character in other section of the franchise, so, on a whim, I sent them an email."

"Personally, I could not be more shocked. I thought the Early Learning Centre was a place for positive reinforcement of positive actions for children, but yet, here it was, actively promoting one of the most evil characters in the Star Wars universe. Anakin Skywalker," he wrote; no doubt bristling with righteous fury.

He went on to list several of the character's transgressions.

Consistent and flagrantly ignoring the rules, orders and limits set on him by his Jedi Master, Obi-Wan Kenobi.
Killing an entire tribe of sand-people on Tatooine
Killing the unarmed Count Dooku
Cutting the arm off a Jedi Knight, Mace Windu. (Need I remind you that the Jedi
Knights are the PROTECTORS of peace and justice throughout the Star Wars saga?)
Pledging himself to the Dark Side of the force, an organisation based on the teachings of the Sith, involving Brutality, Fear, Anger, and Hatred, including severe humanistic racism when they came into power forming the Empire
Acted as the right-hand of the Sith Emperor
Choked his wife using the power of the Force, nearly killing her and undeniably an act which eventually led to her death.
Attempted killing of Jedi Knight and Master, Obi-Wan Kenobi.

And, last of all, and the most important

The massacre of an entire school of young Jedi Children.

Now, I ask you, how can you sell such toys, promoting such individuals, in your establishment?
I'd also like to add that Anakin whined and cried throughout the entirety of Revenge of the Sith, setting a terrible example for children everywhere.

In defence of the Early Learning center, a client support manager emailed Mills with an equally nerdy (and hilarious) response:

It's unlikely that children of that age have seen any of the Star Wars films, however if they have I beg to offer the following counterpoints to 'the sins of Anakin'

[ul] Anakin loved his mother a great deal and always treated her with respect
Rescued his master several times from assassins, pit monsters, droid troopers etc.
Rescued Amidalla from assassin snakes, pit monsters, the Trade Federation and even found time to romance her in the fields of Naboo
Built C3PO
Won the Podrace
Killed the evil emperor to save his son [/ul]

I would also argue that if a child has seen all the films they'll see Anakin as a hero who went wrong but ultimately paid the supreme sacrifice to atone for his sins.

There may be better role models out there for a child, but for the period our toys are aimed at (the Clone Wars), Anakin remains very much 'hero material' and is a popular and welcome addition to our range.
He failed to mention that, as Darth Vader, Anakin is certainly a handicapable role model.

You can read the full exchange on Mill's blog. [http://touchsensitive.wordpress.com/2011/10/21/the-early-learning-centre-on-anakin-skywalker/] What do we think, folks? Does Anakin's eventual redemption make him a "good guy?" Or is the Early Learning Center unwittingly promoting child murder, parental abandonment and, worst of all, unfair hiring and firing practices? [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TjTb5bPZc0]

Source: Touch Sensitive Via Bleedingcool. [http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/01/10/best-star-wars-lego-corporate-response-ever/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+BleedingCool+%28Bleeding+Cool+Comic+News+%26+Rumors%29]


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Captain Pirate

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Grey Carter said:
I'd also like to add that Anakin whined and cried throughout the entirety of Revenge of the Sith, setting a terrible example for children everywhere.

What do we think, folks?
I think the Escapist needs to ditch its irritatin, crowd-pleasing attitude, and actually be able to mention Star Wars without in some way attacking the prequels.

We both know Anakin didn't whine and cry throughout the entirety of Revenge Of The Sith, so stop going with the whole 'pandering to the original-trilogy masses' thing.

I don't mind if people don't like it, I just wish all you writers could write one Star Wars article without expressing your thoughts on the prequels, no matter how irrelevant they are.
 

Amnestic

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I'm not sure how any of the 'defences' (winning the podrace? Really? An act which in the context of the universe itself was completely unnecessary for the plot to continue and only needed to happen because it was contrived to do so?) make up for indiscriminately slaughtering children and acting as person right hand man to Emperor Palpatine.

ELC Guy said:
There may be better role models out there for a child, but for the period our toys are aimed at (the Clone Wars), Anakin remains very much 'hero material' and is a popular and welcome addition to our range.
How about Obi-Wan? The most evil thing he did was not giving Anakin a mercy-killing at the end of RotS. Not to mention he's played by the infinitely more likeable Ewan McGregor.
 

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Captain Pirate said:
Grey Carter said:
I'd also like to add that Anakin whined and cried throughout the entirety of Revenge of the Sith, setting a terrible example for children everywhere.

What do we think, folks?
I think the Escapist needs to ditch its irritatin, crowd-pleasing attitude, and actually be able to mention Star Wars without in some way attacking the prequels.

We both know Anakin didn't whine and cry throughout the entirety of Revenge Of The Sith, so stop going with the whole 'pandering to the original-trilogy masses' thing.

I don't mind if people don't like it, I just wish all you writers could write one Star Wars article without expressing your thoughts on the prequels, no matter how irrelevant they are.
If you listen to the podcasts they ARE the original-trilogy masses.
 

RA92

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Heh heh! This is so funny!

"He didn't whine and cry throughout the entirety of Revenge of the Sith! Just most of it!"
 

The Wooster

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Baron_BJ said:
Captain Pirate said:
Grey Carter said:
I'd also like to add that Anakin whined and cried throughout the entirety of Revenge of the Sith, setting a terrible example for children everywhere.

What do we think, folks?
I think the Escapist needs to ditch its irritatin, crowd-pleasing attitude, and actually be able to mention Star Wars without in some way attacking the prequels.

We both know Anakin didn't whine and cry throughout the entirety of Revenge Of The Sith, so stop going with the whole 'pandering to the original-trilogy masses' thing.

I don't mind if people don't like it, I just wish all you writers could write one Star Wars article without expressing your thoughts on the prequels, no matter how irrelevant they are.
If you listen to the podcasts they ARE the original-trilogy masses.
Nah, I don't actually feature in the podcasts.

I just have taste.
 

Amnestic

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Raiyan 1.0 said:
Heh heh! This is so funny!

"He didn't whine and cry throughout the entirety of Revenge of the Sith! Just most of it!"
Hey, let's be fair here. He wasn't crying OR whining when he was murdering children. You gotta give him that!
 

Ragnarok185

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the Story of Anakin skywalker is a tragic story however I don't know if there should even be an argument of this at all. kids don't really understand the complexity of Star Wars and they just watch it for the fight scenes
 

Montezuma's Lawyer

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Anakin loved his mother a great deal and always treated her with respect

As did Gengis Khan and he was a murdering psychopath.



Rescued his master several times from assassins, pit monsters, droid troopers etc.

And later attempted to murder him.

Rescued Amidalla from assassin snakes, pit monsters, the Trade Federation and even found time to romance her in the fields of Naboo.

And later attempted to murder her.

Built C3PO

Worthless.
Won the Podrace.

Worthless.

Killed the evil emperor to save his son

Too little too late.
 

-Dragmire-

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I'm a little rough on Star Wars lore but didn't Anakin ditch his mom on the sand planet for around a decade even though I'm pretty sure he could have bought her out of slavery? He couldn't have cared for her that much...

After blowing up that big ship in ep 1, I would have thought his first words would have been, "Can we save mom now?".
 

Nouw

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Seems a little pointless. But not as pointless as the psychological assessment of him. [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/7.199844-Darth-Vader-Diagnosed-With-Mental-Illness] But still funny. I would have preferred Mace Windu though.
 

PurePareidolia

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His loyalty and respect mean nothing considering he betrayed literally everything he had any loyalty to or respect for. Multiple times. Before killing the people he betrayed (which include all of the ones mentioned). The last of which only occurred after his master had asked Luke to kill and replace him.

Oh, and those still don't excuse murdering a bunch of children. His second child massacre in as many movies, I might add.

There's a point at which saying "I don't want to murder my own son anymore" just doesn't excuse your actions.

Montezuma said:
Rescued his master several times from assassins, pit monsters, droid troopers etc.

And later attempted to murder him.

Rescued Amidalla from assassin snakes, pit monsters, the Trade Federation and even found time to romance her in the fields of Naboo.

And later attempted to murder her.
Attempted, then succeeded with both of them I might add.
 

Chad Brumfield

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The response to the original letter sounds more like "Star Wars toys really sell well and we are here to make money. So bleh :p".
 

Roserari

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Looking at this from a distance, you could argue that Anakin Skywalker is indeed a hero. A young man to take pride in finding a role model. It's just that, like a schizophrenic, Darth Vader popped up. Then, when he was Darth Vader, it was Anakin that popped up again.
 

008Zulu_v1legacy

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Anakin is a crappy role model, he made his choices (the Emperor never used Force Coercion/Charm) and good people died because of his inability to accept the fact he is not the center of the universe.
 

jurnag12

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Maybe it's just me, but killing a single guy because he was zapping his kid to death doesn't seem like enough atonement for DECADES OF DARK-SIDE GENOCIDE AND RACISM.
Although Dark-Side Genocide oughta be a good name for a band.
 

chaosyoshimage

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Leave it to Star Wars fans to turn every Star Wars article into some sort of debate about the damn prequels...