Is Anakin Skywalker a Positive Role Model?
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If they're unlikely to have seen it, why are you stocking it?
Until he left her behind with a slavemaster to be killed.
I think you meant to say "abuser" there.
And their ages when he did that...?
The useless camp comic relief droid - The Protocol droid when his mother needed something to help her round the house?
Because kids playing in fast cars is good.
Hey, as a Juvenile murderer, he won't get sentenced as much.
I'd counter that they'd also see a child that abandons his children, amputates his sons arm, bullies, kills, tortures and turns on all the positive things you mentioned earlier - and then kills his boss because his son wants something.
Or that, as a shop that's always prided itself on role-models that aren't there purely to sell merchandise, but to educate and fulfil a child's learning potential, you've totally succumb to being the one thing you hated.
In that case, Anakin is a good role model for the ELC.
And I firmly believe that if Qui-Gon had never ever existed, there wouldn't have been a problem.
The whole point is moot anyway, for if we held toy-makers accountable for the rolemodels that children follow, then we'd have to hold gamemakers accountable for the actions we make. I don't think it matters.
But for the record, no, he was completely evil by the third movie and no amount of indecisiveness in any amount of scenes would not have dissuaded me of that opinion.
The whole point is moot anyway, for if we held toy-makers accountable for the rolemodels that children follow, then we'd have to hold gamemakers accountable for the actions we make. I don't think it matters.
But for the record, no, he was completely evil by the third movie and no amount of indecisiveness in any amount of scenes would not have dissuaded me of that opinion.
One question: Would ELC stock a figure of Darth Vader? Probably not because he is undeniably evil, he is pretty much the most recognised figure of evil.
So, potentially, what would the difference be between the two figures?
I invoke Godwin's Law!
It would be a bit near the mark to start selling Hitler figures wouldn't it? But young Hitler is fine because hey, he hasn't killed anyone yet!
Just food for thought.
So, potentially, what would the difference be between the two figures?
I invoke Godwin's Law!
It would be a bit near the mark to start selling Hitler figures wouldn't it? But young Hitler is fine because hey, he hasn't killed anyone yet!
Just food for thought.
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Kids just don't understand.
My children will not know of the prequal trilogy, and if they do, I shall burn it from their minds using a combination of terrible parenting and hot pokers.
Kids just don't understand.
My children will not know of the prequal trilogy, and if they do, I shall burn it from their minds using a combination of terrible parenting and hot pokers.
Interesting. Apparently good old Georgey boy must think pretty highly of Anakin, he did make the Clone Wars show all about him. He even goes out of his way to show how good and upstanding of a padawan he is. Talk about mixed signals.
Edit: I looked at his blog, and I don't understand why people have them at this point. Why is there a fascination with recording every single thought a person has. Between Facebook, Twitter, blogs, G+, Myspace (haha, I know it's practically nonexistent, but I had to put it in there), a person could got crazy. It's not really connectivity or being social or whatever it's supposed to be, it's just sad.
Edit: I looked at his blog, and I don't understand why people have them at this point. Why is there a fascination with recording every single thought a person has. Between Facebook, Twitter, blogs, G+, Myspace (haha, I know it's practically nonexistent, but I had to put it in there), a person could got crazy. It's not really connectivity or being social or whatever it's supposed to be, it's just sad.
In my eyes, Anakin Skywalker stopped being a "role model" the moment he slaughtered an entire tribe of Sand People, down to the last man, woman and child. Everything else was just a holding pattern until he got the suit.
Of course, I have issues with him being perceived as a role model in the first place, seeing as how he was a whiny, selfish whelp.
I suppose one could argue that my impressions are colored by preconceived notions about the character. Before the prequels came out, I imagined Anakin's personality to be like Thor in the recent film adaptation. I imagined a brave, strong warrior that relished action and excitement, yet still cared about those around him. He would exude confidence and charisma, easily forming lasting bonds with his friends and colleagues. He would be prone to theatrical displays, yet still manage to deliver genuine words of wisdom and stir the hearts of those who heard them.
There would be one major weakness however; he would have a burning need to see justice prevail. To that end, he would begin to dabble with powers of the Dark side, tempted by its promise of power. Thinking he could control it, he would delve deeper and deeper until it would ultimately consume him. By the time anyone realized the full extent of his fall, it would be too late. Instead we got this:
Palpatine: Join the Dark Side and slaughter a bunch of children and I may or may not be able to save your wife.
Anakin: OH HELLS YEAH!
Of course, I have issues with him being perceived as a role model in the first place, seeing as how he was a whiny, selfish whelp.
I suppose one could argue that my impressions are colored by preconceived notions about the character. Before the prequels came out, I imagined Anakin's personality to be like Thor in the recent film adaptation. I imagined a brave, strong warrior that relished action and excitement, yet still cared about those around him. He would exude confidence and charisma, easily forming lasting bonds with his friends and colleagues. He would be prone to theatrical displays, yet still manage to deliver genuine words of wisdom and stir the hearts of those who heard them.
There would be one major weakness however; he would have a burning need to see justice prevail. To that end, he would begin to dabble with powers of the Dark side, tempted by its promise of power. Thinking he could control it, he would delve deeper and deeper until it would ultimately consume him. By the time anyone realized the full extent of his fall, it would be too late. Instead we got this:
Palpatine: Join the Dark Side and slaughter a bunch of children and I may or may not be able to save your wife.
Anakin: OH HELLS YEAH!
I hate the say that a bad apple ruins the bunch, the bad apple being his bad acts, and the bunch being the aforementioned good acts, but he did commit mass genocide in the lore... More than once...
Killing the emperor was REDEMPTION, but it doesn't change the fact that he spent half of Ep. 2, most of Ep. 3, and all but 10 minutes of the "good" trilogy being a stiff, moody jerk.
And EVERYONE loves their mother. It doesn't change that he willingly tore the galaxy apart for his own personal gain.
And EVERYONE loves their mother. It doesn't change that he willingly tore the galaxy apart for his own personal gain.
Well I assume this is a toy based on the current Clone Wars show and in that context, without seeing any of the movies, Anakin is a hero and arguable a decent role model.
However, how is having a toy of Anakin in any way promoting him as a role model. Isn't it just a toy for the kid to play with and have pretend battles with their Power Ranger and Pokemon toys until they all fall apart? Or do kids use toys differently now?
However, how is having a toy of Anakin in any way promoting him as a role model. Isn't it just a toy for the kid to play with and have pretend battles with their Power Ranger and Pokemon toys until they all fall apart? Or do kids use toys differently now?
I'm now going to just assume it's stepped into the banter/trolling phase.Grey Carter said:
Also, THIS:
I wasn't, but this is a very good point.Capitano Segnaposto said:
Would all you prequel haters rather have your kids watch Star Wars II: Attack Of The Clones, or Jersey Shore? Or as I like to call it, 'The Annoying Orange grows a body and gets drunk with all his friends'.
People who look for some kind of exemplary archetype to follow in human being are just silly, nobody's perfect. People who look for the very same in the form of pop-culture figures, in particular fictional ones, are just being dumb twats. People should be smart enough to decide for themselves how one should behave and what morals or conduct you think is best to follow. Celebrities are under no obligation to accomadate their behaviour to the expectations of conventional society or concerned parents; who should really be making more of an effort to illustrate the importance of seperating the art from the artist 'X was a great musician, but they also choked to death on their vomit, so don't take everything they say to heart.' Better yet, just in general caution them to be careful who's advice you buy, don't encourage them to look for role models in pop culture, don't encourage people to look for role models at all. Everyone has their strengths and their flaws, some of the things they have to say might be aphoristic, some of it might be utterly batshit, you need to look for different people for different kinds of advice, no one person can serve as a template by which to live by. TL DR; I find the concept of role models to be stupid.
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