Japanese Mayor Wouldn't Hire Johnny Depp

The Wooster

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Japanese Mayor Wouldn't Hire Johnny Depp


Mayor of Osaka, Toru Hashimoto, posits he wouldn't hire Johnny Depp or Lady Gaga as civil servants due to their tattoos.

In case you're not a follower of Japanese politics: Toru Hashimoto, decidedly far-right mayor of Japan's third largest city, doesn't care for tattoos. He especially doesn't care for them if they happen to be on city employees. On his order, Osaka civil servants, with the single exception of those employed by the education board which refused to comply on civil rights grounds, were forced to fill out a questionnaire and state whether or not they had any tattoos on their arms, legs, or other visible-to-the-public parts. Unable to sack the some 110 workers who admitted having been inked, Hashimoto is instead trying to force them to have their tattoos removed. If that doesn't work, he's stated he intends to ship them off to jobs where they'll have no contact with the public.

When asked what he thought about popular foreign stars such as Johnny Depp and Lady Gaga having tattoos, Hashimoto responded that he wouldn't want them on his workforce.

"If Gaga or Depp wanted to work for Osaka, I'd refuse them. Maybe singers and actors can have them," he said, "but it's unforgivable for a civil servant to have one. Although there's no way Gaga would accept Osaka."

Though neither celebrity has announced plans to move to Japan and enter the highly lucrative street sweeping business, both are undoubtedly very disappointed by Hashimoto's preemptive dismissal.

Hashimoto, a former TV personality who claims he stopped dying his hair brown upon being elected because it would be improper, began his campaign against body art after an incident in which an employee at a child-care facility was caught showing his tattoos to a child. There's a longstanding taboo against tattoos in Japan, as many consider them a sign of criminality.

Source: Yomirui [http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/politics/news/20120517-OYT1T00930.htm] via MSNBC [http://worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/05/18/11753886-japan-mayor-i-wouldnt-hire-tattooed-stars-johnny-depp-lady-gaga?chromedomain=entertainment&lite]



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=y

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Good thing I have no business/political plans for Japan. The Zapdos tattoo I want to get would apparently label me as an undesirable.
 

thiosk

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We are growing more lenient, and this guys off his rocker--

but if you have a... decorated... face, or 'sleeves,' don't be surprised when you aren't made the face of a large company.
 

Terramax

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This is very likely due to tattoos being heavily linked with the Yakuza.

Smiles said:
I guess there goes my dream of teaching english in Japan ... :'(
Isn't this if you want to work in politics there? Also, it's in Osaka, so doesn't include places such as Tokyo, so you'd be fine.

However, I'm aware that teaching English in Japan is not such a dream job. A lot of people are shocked to find the job isn't even 1% as glamorous as stereotypes make it out to be.
 

Lovely Mixture

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Right-Wingers of all nations seem to pretty damned awful.

It doesn't need to be said how ridiculous this is:

"So you graduated from a celebrated university with a Masters degree and GPA of 6, you volunteer at the hospital and still find time other activities?....Well then I don't see why we wouldn't allow someone like to work her- Oh you have a tattoo on your thigh? Sorry we can't give you the job."

I'm going to Japan in a couple months, I should put on some paint tattoos for giggles.

Although there's no way Gaga would accept Osaka.
This guy is just asking to be hated at this point. I hope she responds to this with hilarity.
 

Tanis

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Isn't this the same asshole who's trying to ban various forums of hentai and anime, but makes exceptions for written/live-action works that depict the same thing?
 

The Wooster

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Tanis said:
Isn't this the same asshole who's trying to ban various forums of hentai and anime, but makes exceptions for written/live-action works that depict the same thing?
You're thinking of Ishihara who, quite ironically, used to write softcore porn novels. Though Hasimoto has called for censorship of certain extreme genres of manga, and he has said that he thinks there should be limits on creative freedom and that Japan "needs a dictatorship."
 

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This reminds me of an old Japanese documentary I saw years ago. To get around the taboo of tattoos, the kids were using white out/liquid paper correction pens to draw patterns and such all over their faces and arms.
 

Sansha

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Lovely Mixture said:
Right-Wingers of all nations seem to pretty damned awful.

It doesn't need to be said how ridiculous this is:

"So you graduated from a celebrated university with a Masters degree and GPA of 6, you volunteer at the hospital and still find time other activities?....Well then I don't see why we wouldn't allow someone like to work her- Oh you have a tattoo on your thigh? Sorry we can't give you the job."

I'm going to Japan in a couple months, I should put on some paint tattoos for giggles.
No, you shouldn't.

Thing is, tattoos are extremely popular with the Yakuza. Gang members adorn their bodies with them and show them off to such a degree that tattoos in Japan are associated with the clans, so this is probably where this man's disdain comes from.

You're often not allowed to have visible tattoos in bathhouses and public pools for this reason. I think this man is speaking out of disdain for the Yakuza without actually saying that, rather than just being a doddery old man.
 

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Honestly after Alice in Wonderland I don't think In could hire Johnny Depp either.
 

Don Reba

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Haha. I can imagine how Peter Moore's Halo 2 and, especially, GTA IV tattoos were received in Japan.
 

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Terramax said:
This is very likely due to tattoos being heavily linked with the Yakuza.
Sansha said:
Lovely Mixture said:
Right-Wingers of all nations seem to pretty damned awful.

It doesn't need to be said how ridiculous this is:

"So you graduated from a celebrated university with a Masters degree and GPA of 6, you volunteer at the hospital and still find time other activities?....Well then I don't see why we wouldn't allow someone like to work her- Oh you have a tattoo on your thigh? Sorry we can't give you the job."

I'm going to Japan in a couple months, I should put on some paint tattoos for giggles.
No, you shouldn't.

Thing is, tattoos are extremely popular with the Yakuza. Gang members adorn their bodies with them and show them off to such a degree that tattoos in Japan are associated with the clans, so this is probably where this man's disdain comes from.

You're often not allowed to have visible tattoos in bathhouses and public pools for this reason. I think this man is speaking out of disdain for the Yakuza without actually saying that, rather than just being a doddery old man.
This is very much likely the case, as not only are tattoos heavily linked and popularwith the Yakuza, they actually are used TO identify as Yakuza. I have... friends... who tell me stories, rather horrifying ones, to be honest. Yakuza use tattoos in a variety of ways. Not only are they usually a symbol of being in a clan, but Yakuza often have it in with tattoo shops and use them as both recruitment grounds and extortion grounds.

For example, a young Japanese boy goes to a tattoo shop and gets a tattoo that he thinks looks rather cool. Sooner or later, he'll have Yakuza members on his tail because it turns out he's wearing one of their "symbols" and they'll press-gang him into joining or do worse. It works the same for tourists, if they do what the young Japanese boy did, except they'll be press-ganged into giving their money and possessions they have on them, if they have any worth.

So, you see, tattoos have a taboo in Japan for a very good reason...
 

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Smiles said:
I guess there goes my dream of teaching english in Japan ... :'(
Only if your tattoo is uncovered. You won't be able to go to a hot spring, though.

Was going to write about the link between tattoos and the Yakuza, but it's already been done very cogently by others above...
 

Don Reba

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AngelOfBlueRoses said:
This is very much likely the case, as not only are tattoos heavily linked and popularwith the Yakuza, they actually are used TO identify as Yakuza. I have... friends... who tell me stories, rather horrifying ones, to be honest. Yakuza use tattoos in a variety of ways. Not only are they usually a symbol of being in a clan, but Yakuza often have it in with tattoo shops and use them as both recruitment grounds and extortion grounds.

For example, a young Japanese boy goes to a tattoo shop and gets a tattoo that he thinks looks rather cool. Sooner or later, he'll have Yakuza members on his tail because it turns out he's wearing one of their "symbols" and they'll press-gang him into joining or do worse. It works the same for tourists, if they do what the young Japanese boy did, except they'll be press-ganged into giving their money and possessions they have on them, if they have any worth.

So, you see, tattoos have a taboo in Japan for a very good reason...
That explains the tattoo parlour in Shenmue.
 

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rollerfox88 said:
If there is a long standing taboo against tattoos in Japan, why would people aiming for a career in public service get them? I am definitely not saying they should get the sack, but they should not be surprised the big boss is unhappy with them...
For the same reason kids anywhere do the things they do that make no sense.

-Alcohol
-To be dark and edgy
-To throw it in Mum and Dad's faces
-Because they thought it "would be like, totally cool" at the time
-Alcohol
 

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Grey Carter said:
In case you're not a follower of Japanese politics: Toru Hashimoto, decidedly far-right mayor of Japan's third largest city, doesn't care for tattoos.
It wasn't until I read this article that I realised that I am a follower of Japanese Politics. Indeed, in some respects I know more about Japanese Politics than I do about Irish Politics.

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