3 things i just simply dont understand/an enlightening thread

[Captain Pirate]

1) Because people are arseholes.

2) Because everyone was watching The Expendables or Eat Prey Love. Hey, I saw Expendables AND Scott Pilgrim, so that was a great week movie-wise for me.
But hey, money can go fuck itself when Scott Pilgrim becomes a Cult Classic.

3) That first photo I think is pretty badass. Looks awesome.
However, that second photo... THE FUCK? Is that really the same costume as the first photo? Seriously? Fuck you, Sony. It'd better be alright on release day.

 

[ajofflight]

1) I don't know.
2) Because it was a good movie, but the general public didn't want to see it.
3) I think the new Spiderman costume looks good. I don't see anything wrong with it.

Watch as some troll reports me for having an opinion.

 

[XT inc]

Maybe people are tired of being shit on by dev companies at every turn, where gaming went from a glorious one off with all the bells and whistles. To Project 10 dollar, day one DLC, DLC on the disc that won't unlock without a code. Character models at a premium, money grubbing for every little thing of interest, Hype and Lies abound, knowing cold hard fact by they time they release the complete/ GOTY edition(that's all it is) the community will have moved on and the game will be dust.

Now I don't pirate games, I rent them or ignore them, because a non rpg dev hasn't made a game that can't be wrung dry of content within my 11 dollar 7 day trial, and now that's being threatened by these locked multi player codes, and content locking new game codes.

 

[rokkolpo]

1. Piracy isn't theft. Yes, it's illegal. Some would even argue it's wrong. But it isn't theft. Theft, by definition, requires depriving the owner of the original, while piracy merely copies that original. I wish people could get this misconception out of their heads...

Software works different in the ''stealing'' department.

No, it doesn't.


Stealing software = walking into a store and shoplifting the disc.
Pirating software = illegally copying it, whether by torrent, usenet, P2P, borrowed disc, whatever.

Now guess which one actually deprived the owner of the original.....

Well sure it's copyright infringement.
But that's still taking something (data) that belongs to someone else (even if he has infinite amounts of it), without permission from that person.

I don't care much about the technical term, that's stealing.

 

[MarlaminLTarmiko]

I'm a lazy bastard, so I'm just going to link to videos that go over these points.
Why Scott Pilgrim failed - http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/teamt/dw/skitches/27623-dw-5reasonswhyscottpilgrimflopped
Going over Piracy - http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/extra-credits/2653-Piracy
and I'm going to assume the spiderman in shoes is fake. If not.... hmm.

 

[SenseOfTumour]

I'll just take the SP one....

Scott Pilgrim was about a nerd/hipster crossover thing aimed at gamers with added weird stuff, and was epic for those it was aimed at.

The vast majority of Hollywood Movies are fairly average but aimed at 90% of the population (or at least 90% of a gender, in the case of sappy lurve movies about lurve, or movies where guys fart and then stuff blows up)

As ever, and as demonstrated by what gets cancelled on TV and what gets recommisionned for 173 seasons, being mediocre and vaguely entertaining to 10 million people is FAR better than being fantastic and truly loved by 3 million, in the eyes of those with money, and they're the only people who matter in the industry.

 

[Stasisesque]

3. what the hell in the great universe made sony decide THIS.http://collider.com/wp-content/uploads/Andrew-Garfield-Spider-Man-costume.jpg should be the new SP suit , and if that wasn't enough THIS. http://collider.com/wp-content/uploads/spider-man-reboot-set-photo.jpg an angsty reboot of spider man i can handle but thats.. thats just unacceptable

The second photo is almost certainly a stunt suit, and won't ever be seen in all its glory on screen.

 

[bobknowsall]

heyo escapees i was sitting in my dorm room bored as fuck

As in a college dorm room? Don't you have stuff you could, you know, revise?

 

[Mittens The Kitten]

On piracy,why is there this bizzare fetish with the word "stealing". Just say its wrong, its more of an insult that way too. We have definitions for a reason and we don't need to go against them, proving that piracy is stealing doesnt automatically make it wrong and most of the people who say it isn't stealing arent even defending piracy. If you really want to attach it to a seperate crime, counterfeiting would be far more accurate.

 

[Daffy F]

cuz they can more or less get away with it
whos scott pilgrim?
cuz the world needs a gay superhero

and dr.manhatten wasn't enough?

He wasn't gay, he just thought clothes were stupid.

 

[Jordi]

1. I think at least one reason people seem to defend piracy is that they hate stupidity. For instance, piracy is not stealing, plain and simply. It is wrong, but it is not stealing. People claiming it is makes my blood cringe. It is also not (as bad as) murder, rape, etc.
As to why people do it: it's cheap, easy, low-risk and we all know of all the reasons some people use to justify it, so it might not feel very wrong either for some people.

2. Was it really that well received? I mean, most people around this website, or in your social circle, might like it. But that's not really a very representative sample, is it? But if you are right, maybe it has to do with marketing. I think that box office success is determined like 99.9% through marketing and maybe .1% by the quality of the movie, because they only measure the first weekend, so anyone going then is not making that decision based on how good the movie is, because nobody knows yet.
I don't know how the marketing in the US was though, as I don't live there. I just know that I have not seen anything about it in The Netherlands. If the US marketing was okay, maybe it just wasn't such a great idea to premier in the same weekend as The Expendables.

3. Are those two pictures of the same suit?

 

[Thaluikhain]

People can defend piracy because they view it in such a way that it isn't a crime.

As well as the argument over whether or not it constitutes stealing, which is simply an argument over definition, alot of people view it as simply not being a crime. Downloading something for personal use that you wouldn't otherwise have spent money on is not costing the developers anything, and so fulfills the "as long as I'm not harming anyone else" ideal.

Then again, there are those who flat out hate games developers for being greedy and wanting to turn a profit by expecting to be paid for their work.

 

[The Hunted Snark]

In regards to the Piracy issue: I pirate game/films/music and I pretty much always have done. I'm not going to try and justify it with some sort of poorly thought-out socio-economic arguement either. If people think it's wrong and condem those that pirate then fair enough, but I don't really have a strong opinion either way.

If anything I feel better about admitting that it's illegal/immoral/whatever and being honest about pirating anyway than if I were pirating software and either lying about it or justifying it.

 

[Wintermoot]

I,ll take the SP one: its because 90% of the movie public has no taste (it also explains why Sletzerberg is still making refferce,s not movies refferences and why Twilight has so many fans) its also original which people dont get it also has allot of in jokes about gaming subculture

 

[Hero in a half shell]

WAIT EVERYONE STOP THE PRESSES!
Look at spidermans wrists. Praise Thor. I spy mechanical web-shooters. Mechanical web shooters

Well in my book that excuses the lightening fast reboot time, and that horrendous looking second photo.