30 Million Steam Accounts Can't Be Wrong

[Odjin]

I love skewed numbers. 30 Mio is LOL. How many are actually "in use"? Not even 1% for sure as any sane player uses Steam-Remover cracks to get rid of this pest called steam sticking to your legit applications. But this created account count idiocy is done at a lot of places. Important is not the number of "created" accounts but the number of actually "used" accounts... and the number of pissed off customers.

take a look here: http://store.steampowered.com/stats/ and you will have your answer of how many people do actually log in. As of right...... now! there are over 2,500,000 people online (insert over 9000 joke here) so a lot more than 1% are active. That is almost 30% and its a freaking monday morning.

Figures without actual proof. What do they call "logged in"? What "account types" do they track? Even if these values would be taken for "true" then it would be <10% of which only some are are actual "player accounts". So 90% of accounts are mostly dead even if we take these 10% here as "true" (neglecting reality). And 90% mostly dead accounts says a lot, doesn't it?

EDIT: And if you don't believe the fact about different accounts check out how many are "actually playing" using your stats there: <30'000 tops. Granted this is not all games but the 100 most played. With all others added maybe this goes up to 50'000 or 60'000 who knows but that's still very little compared to the 30M they boast about. Steam is and stays full of hot air (and DRM drama and is not properly working with some games as I can say from own experience).

 

[8bitmaster]

I love skewed numbers. 30 Mio is LOL. How many are actually "in use"? Not even 1% for sure as any sane player uses Steam-Remover cracks to get rid of this pest called steam sticking to your legit applications. But this created account count idiocy is done at a lot of places. Important is not the number of "created" accounts but the number of actually "used" accounts... and the number of pissed off customers.

take a look here: http://store.steampowered.com/stats/ and you will have your answer of how many people do actually log in. As of right...... now! there are over 2,500,000 people online (insert over 9000 joke here) so a lot more than 1% are active. That is almost 30% and its a freaking monday morning.

Figures without actual proof. What do they call "logged in"? What "account types" do they track? Even if these values would be taken for "true" then it would be <10% of which only some are are actual "player accounts". So 90% of accounts are mostly dead even if we take these 10% here as "true" (neglecting reality). And 90% mostly dead accounts says a lot, doesn't it?

EDIT: And if you don't believe the fact about different accounts check out how many are "actually playing" using your stats there: <30'000 tops. Granted this is not all games but the 100 most played. With all others added maybe this goes up to 50'000 or 60'000 who knows but that's still very little compared to the 30M they boast about. Steam is and stays full of hot air (and DRM drama and is not properly working with some games as I can say from own experience).

where do you get <%10? 2 million is 20%+ you need facts to disprove evidence instead of just opinion and infering. Just because not all accounts are playing games at once does not mean that 25,000,000 accounts are dead, just not logged in at once.

 

[Ham_authority95]

Cool. Too bad I hate gaming on PC's, though. I find that consoles are much more intuitive and fun for me.

 

[JeanLuc761]

1) Yeah, and I am sure the fact that it is required to play a lot of games because its fucking shitty DRM has something to do with the fact that many have an account. I know its the only reason I have one.
Go fuck yourself Steam. Seriously.

2) Except for the fact that most of the time it does not. It is quite often the same or even slightly higher than retail and you do not even get the actual game to show for it.

3) Well you are half right. Their games sure are horrible.

4) Not quite yet but if those cunts at Blizzard get their way it soon will be.

Let's take this one at a time, shall we?

1) Yes, Steam is required to play some games. I don't fully support that, but Steam has never, ever been obtrusive in my experience. Takes all of 10 seconds to load, runs silently in the background, and patches my games automatically. I love that.

2) I've never seen Steam cost more than retail, and they're also known for having some of the jaw-droppingly best sales out there.

3) I call BS on this one. I don't doubt that you dislike Valve's games; that's fine. But you can't out and out say they're horrible as though that was fact. Valve have consistently created games that ranked among the best with gamers and reviewers alike.

4) Ah yes Blizzard, the company who made Warcraft and Starcraft II, two of the most moddable games of all time. Yeah, they sure are bastards.

 

[HT_Black]

Man...I wish I could afford a yacht made of money. Some guys get all the luck.

 

[TagDaze]

Argumentum ad populum makes me sad. :-(
"30 Million Steam Accounts Can't Be Wrong"
I guess 200 million Celine Dion albums can't be wrong either.
Or 1.5 billion Muslims. They can't possibly be wrong.

 

[LoganN]

Well of course they have 30 million accounts when they force you to register to even install your games.

 

[Jellly]

Well, every single person I have talked to bar two HATE steam. I honestly don't really like it that much, I don't buy games often enough to really benefit from the discounts and I detest how it is like a nagging young child, whining about how I need to install it for a game. Just fuck off and let me play my game that I bought already.

Idk if it is still like this, but when L4D was released it wouldn't let me play single player before patching it. -_- So stupid.

so you genuinely dont like a company fixing broken things in their game?

No, I just think it is stupid that I HAVE to download it before playing the game in single player where I can't abuse bugs etc. against humans.

 

[GamingAwesome1]

Where does the hate for Steam come from?

I like having all my PC playing friends and games in one place.

Don't get me wrong, I'd still much prefer boxed copies free of any online activation, I don't like the niggling thought of not being able to play my games a few years down the line.

Then again....there is always those No Steam things as a last resort.

Nah, I'm cool with Steam. Any service that's give me 600+ hours of gameplay and counting for 13£ is golden in my books. And that's just one game.

 

[Vrach]

Cmon Valve destroy Microsoft and there shitty gfwl. Microsoft recently stated they would support the pc but they just announced exclusive xbox 360 fallout: new vegas dlc.

Yeah, because destroying all other companys is a good thing >.>

All other? No. Microsoft, particularly their shitty GFWL thing? Yes.

It's got its flaws, but currently it's the least annoying DRM in my experience. And gotta hand it to Valve, their sales and stuff are just awesome, great place for getting a good deal on games.

 

[Summerstorm]

Well I don't love Steam. It is ok, i guess. Handy, fast re-downloading my games (the one i bought there). But the prices are mostly insane, at least for not-on-sale games. (Ah and a few 5 bucks reduces ones).

But the massive forced censorship and a +25% markup against amazon or other retailers... Disgusting.

I bought Fallout 3 there... but got a different version than advertised (no gore, no english audio/text - REALLY?), so i have to use a pirated copy to PLAY THE GODDAMN game i payed for.

NEARLY had the same with Saints Row 2. But i looked up information at the last minute and learned that i would have gotten a badly butchered version, incompatible with internet play and severe cuts.

Also did i mention that they charge 1$=1? for most titles. (And yes, not only on behest of the publishers, but also on Valves own games)

Well, if something is one sale, i sometimes buy it (If i can't get it a GoG or something). But i will NEVER, EVER preorder again there, until they get their shit together. (Censorship laws aren't THAT bad here, and they could skim around them as a international company in some kind of greyish zone anyway)

 

[Odjin]

I love skewed numbers. 30 Mio is LOL. How many are actually "in use"? Not even 1% for sure as any sane player uses Steam-Remover cracks to get rid of this pest called steam sticking to your legit applications. But this created account count idiocy is done at a lot of places. Important is not the number of "created" accounts but the number of actually "used" accounts... and the number of pissed off customers.

take a look here: http://store.steampowered.com/stats/ and you will have your answer of how many people do actually log in. As of right...... now! there are over 2,500,000 people online (insert over 9000 joke here) so a lot more than 1% are active. That is almost 30% and its a freaking monday morning.

Figures without actual proof. What do they call "logged in"? What "account types" do they track? Even if these values would be taken for "true" then it would be <10% of which only some are are actual "player accounts". So 90% of accounts are mostly dead even if we take these 10% here as "true" (neglecting reality). And 90% mostly dead accounts says a lot, doesn't it?

EDIT: And if you don't believe the fact about different accounts check out how many are "actually playing" using your stats there: <30'000 tops. Granted this is not all games but the 100 most played. With all others added maybe this goes up to 50'000 or 60'000 who knows but that's still very little compared to the 30M they boast about. Steam is and stays full of hot air (and DRM drama and is not properly working with some games as I can say from own experience).

where do you get <%10? 2 million is 20%+ you need facts to disprove evidence instead of just opinion and infering. Just because not all accounts are playing games at once does not mean that 25,000,000 accounts are dead, just not logged in at once.

Do your math. 3M is 10% of 30M so 2.8M is <10% . And for the rest please use your "sane brain" instead of believing untrue stats thrown around by a marketing department. But I guess for that you need to do a bit more in that scene than just playing games (as it seems you do only). Anyways, no need to stay longer it looks like. Some people just want to believe they are part of the biggest shit in existence.

 

[Retosa]

Almost everyone I know has multiple steam accounts for some reason or another. This number does not impress.

Why would anyone need multiple Steam accounts, so you can gift a game to yourself?

People have done more stupid things for themselves.

Ah man, it's as bad as Mr Bean writing himself a Christmas card and then tucking it under his door.

Actually, the reason for having 2 accounts and gifting to yourself is that if for whatever reason a payment doesn't go through properly after getting accepted (AKA chargeback), you lose your account, and EVERY game on your account. You have $3900.00 worth of games (as someone in this thread said they did), you just lost $3900.00 worth of games. You have a short period of time to correct this, but you have to use the exact same payment method that the payment didn't go through on. So for example, my VISA expired, and I forgot to update my VISA with Steam, and made a purchase. For whatever reason, someone at the bank forgot to tie my old VISA to my new VISA for the period of time that they usually get tied together. The payment gets 'accepted' on VISA's end, but then they charge it back as it's not tied to my account anymore and is disabled. I lose EVERYTHING. Not just the game that I tried buying.

Or, for example, you're Canadian and you have a prepaid non-reloadable VISA. You buy a game worth $30.00, and you've got $32.00 left on the VISA, but the exchange rate plus fees = $32.50 or something because of a huge drop in the currency exchange at the end of the day. You just lost everything.

Of course, if you're careful this shouldn't happen to you. Unless you're like one guy who went together with some online friends and tried to buy a 4pack of L4D2, but Paypal thought it was 'suspicious' that 4 different people put money into the account, for a later purchase to be made and cancelled the transaction and disabled the account. Effectively locking out all of the money in the Paypal account and disabling the guy's Steam account for good because they won't allow you to use ANY OTHER payment method other than the specific one used in the transaction. Your VISA number changed as it expired and Steam still allowed its use? You're screwed. Paypal decided to be a *****? You're screwed. Non-reloadable VISA and exchange rate makes things fucked? You're screwed.

So, a LOT of people decided to avoid this whole fiasco by gifting to themselves. The 'gifter' is held responsible, not the gifted. So if you gift to yourself, and you screw up. You lose a blank account. Better safe than sorry, right?

 

[Shroomhell]

I object to the 3 million access at once. it is not really an accurate accounting (based on my own usage of steam). I log on when my computer turns on and log off when it turns off. Likely as not i won't even use steam, just let it sit there taking up my processor. i do not consider this actually being on steam.

 

[Mikester1290]

Almost everyone I know has multiple steam accounts for some reason or another. This number does not impress.

Why would anyone need multiple Steam accounts, so you can gift a game to yourself?

People have done more stupid things for themselves.

Ah man, it's as bad as Mr Bean writing himself a Christmas card and then tucking it under his door.

Actually, the reason for having 2 accounts and gifting to yourself is that if for whatever reason a payment doesn't go through properly after getting accepted (AKA chargeback), you lose your account, and EVERY game on your account. You have $3900.00 worth of games (as someone in this thread said they did), you just lost $3900.00 worth of games. You have a short period of time to correct this, but you have to use the exact same payment method that the payment didn't go through on. So for example, my VISA expired, and I forgot to update my VISA with Steam, and made a purchase. For whatever reason, someone at the bank forgot to tie my old VISA to my new VISA for the period of time that they usually get tied together. The payment gets 'accepted' on VISA's end, but then they charge it back as it's not tied to my account anymore and is disabled. I lose EVERYTHING. Not just the game that I tried buying.

Or, for example, you're Canadian and you have a prepaid non-reloadable VISA. You buy a game worth $30.00, and you've got $32.00 left on the VISA, but the exchange rate plus fees = $32.50 or something because of a huge drop in the currency exchange at the end of the day. You just lost everything.

Of course, if you're careful this shouldn't happen to you. Unless you're like one guy who went together with some online friends and tried to buy a 4pack of L4D2, but Paypal thought it was 'suspicious' that 4 different people put money into the account, for a later purchase to be made and cancelled the transaction and disabled the account. Effectively locking out all of the money in the Paypal account and disabling the guy's Steam account for good because they won't allow you to use ANY OTHER payment method other than the specific one used in the transaction. Your VISA number changed as it expired and Steam still allowed its use? You're screwed. Paypal decided to be a *****? You're screwed. Non-reloadable VISA and exchange rate makes things fucked? You're screwed.

So, a LOT of people decided to avoid this whole fiasco by gifting to themselves. The 'gifter' is held responsible, not the gifted. So if you gift to yourself, and you screw up. You lose a blank account. Better safe than sorry, right?

I see, thankyou for this information. It still sounds absurd that a cockup on the banks end would loose you all that moneys worth.