Australian Censors "Re-Reviewing" Aliens vs. Predator

Andy Chalk

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Australian Censors "Re-Reviewing" Aliens vs. Predator


Australia's Classification Board is re-reviewing the case of Aliens vs. Predator [http://www.sega.com/games/aliens-vs-predator/], the upcoming shooter from Rebellion that was refused classification earlier this month.

If it's Monday, then it must be time to point and laugh at Australia, the country that just can't seem to figure out this whole "grown up gamer" business. Today, though, we're going to go a bit easier than usual on the good folks Down Under and deliver a bit of potential good news instead: The Classification Board is taking a second look at Aliens vs. Predator, the xenomorriphic shooter coming out in February 2010 that was refused classification [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/96545-Rebellion-Responds-to-AvP-Ban-in-Australia] as a result of explicit (and explicitly awesome!) violence.

As expected, Sega [http://www.sega.com] has appealed that decision and a "re-review" is now set to take place on December 18. The Classification Board was also seeking input from "interested parties" on the matter, but since the deadline to apply for standing is today, it's a bit of a moot point.

The fact that it's getting a second look is good news but much like the report earlier today that Australia's federal government is holding a public consultation [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/96839-Australian-Government-Seeks-Public-Input-Into-R18-Game-Ratings] on R18+ ratings for games, it doesn't really mean much in itself. The review board was quite specific in its reasons for denying the game a rating ("explicit decapitation and dismemberment, as well as locational damage such as stabbing through the chest, throat, mouth or eyes," for instance) and since the content hasn't changed, it's unlikely the decision will either. Furthermore, it's a safe bet that anti-gaming activists like Michael Atkinson will be pulling whatever strings they can reach to ensure that the "refused classification" stands.

Assuming the Classification Board sticks to its guns, it'll be interesting to see if Rebellion [http://www.rebellion.co.uk/] follows through on its vow not to modify the game for release in Australia. Whatever happens and faint though the hope may be, we'll keep our fingers crossed.

Source: Refused-Classification.com [http://www.refused-classification.com/news/2009/12-11-aliens-vs-predator-rc-rating-to-be-reviewed.htm]


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Deofuta

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Seems Australia is quickly becoming the center of Gaming News. Good Luck, Rebellion!
 

hansari

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Aliens vs Predators really is the perfect game to either push Australia into "R" gaming, or completely shun it for another few years.

I mean the game is a lot more violent then others. Dead Space dismemberment deaths were one thing, but in AvP, I have seen game footage of the Predator lifting a guy up by the neck, shoving his wolverine claws through his skull, then tearing his face off. (all in first person perspective)
 

Jared

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Deofuta said:
Seems Australia is quickly becoming the center of Gaming News. Good Luck, Rebellion!
Indeed! Your going to need it against the impenertrable walls and sentries of the Australian Classification Fortress!
 
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Everyone here knows that the average age of gamers over here is about 30; I don't know why the government doesn't get it.

The thing that annoys me most about this is that even New Zealand have a R18+ rating category for games. God, if they can get there act together what the hell is our problem!?!
 

Karrion

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Andy Chalk said:
The review board was quite specific in its reasons for denying the game a rating
Not true, the review board hasn't assessed the game yet.

There are two separate (though related) boards here. The Classification Review Board [http://www.oflc.gov.au/www/cob/classification.nsf/Page/ClassificationinAustralia_Whoweare_ClassificationBoard_ClassificationBoard], which will evaluate whether to uphold or overturn that decision.

It's not unheard of for the Review board to overturn an RC decision.
 

Blimey

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Okay, I have an honest question.

Why can't Aussies just order games from say, Ebay or Amazon.com if they can't buy them in Australia?
 

eels05

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I'm an aussie but I think Rebellion should stick to their guns.

Heads exploding in Fallout 3,
Chainsawing enemies down the middle in Gears of War 2,
Bashing junkies to death with steel pipes in Condemned,
Opening sequence in MW2...

All made it past the censorship board and freely available to minors in Australia.

You know its ironic that if anything Australian kids aren't really being protected from extreme content at all.If anything their exposed to more than kids in the U.S,U.K and Europe.
Its just that our censorship board is a hypocritical mess,and the likes of Atkinson is doing more harm than good while stroking his overdeveloped moral ego.
 

WrongSprite

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Blimey said:
Okay, I have an honest question.

Why can't Aussies just order games from say, Ebay or Amazon.com if they can't buy them in Australia?
Well if it's banned in their country, I assume it's illegal.
 

KurtzGallahad

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I have to say I am becoming rapidly depressed by the actions of the "Censors" in my country, why can't they hire gamers to rate the games, I'd volunteer
 

Talendra

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It's a waste of time resubmitting it. I am completely against R rated games being banned, as most sane people would be, but if that game can get released as M15+ then there is something else horribly wrong with our classification system. (It won't, just saying..)
 

Biotech

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It would be such a shame if the game where to get banned considering they had no problem with the aliens film where countless marines get there heads bit off . So it`s ok to change a game but to try and change a film is to censor an art form .
 

Distorted Stu

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I hope our Oz friends do get the full greatness of this game, it looks like one of the big titles ready for next year!
 

manythings

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Well you are running into the issue of perception here. People who do these jobs know what they are looking for and why they are looking for it. You can walk into a movie theatre and ask for a ticket to movie X but they'll just say no if you are the inappropriate age(Or maybe "sure whatever but I didn't let you in"(true story)). On the other hand in a game store, which is always staffed by satan worshipping, child molesting, drug dealers you have no such guarantee because all gamers are 12 or mentally handicapped.
 

SomeUnregPunk

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At least this pulled people's attention away from Germany.

I don't envy any of the these boards who have to check to see if a game is too violent or not.
Especially when you got the laws written the way it is in Australia.

Like take "Serious Sam HD" and it's Happy Fun mode. On one side you got blood and gore and on the other you got candy and flowers. do you allow it because it allows you that option of replacing the blood and gore with something else?

would the Australian government allow more violent games to hit Australian's market if such a turn on/off mode is implemented into every violent game? Instead of dealing in drugs, you deal in candy straws?
 

Sprogus

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My solution to all of this is Australians should import their games from New Zealand. Sure we might have to pay a bit more because of shipping and their higher GST but other then that it will work fine...As we share the same region lock as they do and they get all the games we don't. Also the games are never flat out banned, they are just refused classification. Which means imports are still technically legal I believe as long as they aren't being sold in Australia.