3DS XL Will Be Nintendo's Last 3D System
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I only got this after there were several games out I wanted for it. The biggest issue for the system is still that there is not a lot of games that appeal to me. I loved the RE game though. So much so that I tracked down a circle pad pro, which made the game even better. I recently bought Theatrhythm Final Fantasy and am having quite a bit of fun. I mostly enjoy hearing songs from my favorite FF of all time, FF6.
Of course, no system should hinge on a gimmick. They should all hinge on the games. I hated the idea of a 3D system. But it was actually pretty good unless you moved around a lot while playing. I was pleasantly surprised by it. But games are all that matter. Not gimmicks. Also, price should be taken into account as that can be a big roadblock from people.
Of course, no system should hinge on a gimmick. They should all hinge on the games. I hated the idea of a 3D system. But it was actually pretty good unless you moved around a lot while playing. I was pleasantly surprised by it. But games are all that matter. Not gimmicks. Also, price should be taken into account as that can be a big roadblock from people.
Here's the thing...3D graphics are perfectly fine for some things like cinematic cutscenes but like Yahtzee said months ago, what's the point of an easily broken visual effect on a console that also features motion control? I have loved using 3D sometimes like on Theatrythem's theater and, Zelda's opening bit before you start playing the game. Otherwise 3D wasn't really a necessary part of the system. The games look really good without after all and the clipping just takes you right out of the experience. Even if you can play with the 3D on, I can't be the only person whose eyes stop noticing the effect after prolonged play.Sarah LeBoeuf said:
Hopefully this means the next upgrade after the 3DSXL will have a second stick instead of a second face-camera...or maybe remove the region locks.
I don't have a short attention span, Iwata-san. I just think 3D is bullshit and doesn't give a game any more immersion than motion controls or smacking me in the back of the head every time I decide to play a modded version of Smash Bros because it's better than vanilla brawl. What is it with Nintendo blaming customers for all their problems rather than accepting the fact that they may have made mistakes? Are the higher ups worried they'll have to commit ritualistic suicide because they didn't live up to the words they gave stockholders?
So, once again Nintendo has realized that the gimmick they promoted their system with is useless.
Remember when the DS came out and every game had some kind of touch-screen implement shoe-horned into the game, and later on, that wasn't the case? 3D is even more useless, because at least a touch screen can serve a purpose. I played the Kingdom Hearts 3D demo with the 3D turned off and completely forgot that it was off until I was done with the demo.
Also, it's awfully lame that the 3DS XL doesn't have a second circle-pad on it. Nintendo sure has dropped the ball left and right with this system.
Attaching a second analogue stick is possible but it would have made the system even bigger and, though it perhaps puts a burden on people that really want that second stick, it?s a call we had to make and these people will have to live with it.
Yeah, thanks a lot, asshole.
Remember when the DS came out and every game had some kind of touch-screen implement shoe-horned into the game, and later on, that wasn't the case? 3D is even more useless, because at least a touch screen can serve a purpose. I played the Kingdom Hearts 3D demo with the 3D turned off and completely forgot that it was off until I was done with the demo.
Also, it's awfully lame that the 3DS XL doesn't have a second circle-pad on it. Nintendo sure has dropped the ball left and right with this system.
Attaching a second analogue stick is possible but it would have made the system even bigger and, though it perhaps puts a burden on people that really want that second stick, it?s a call we had to make and these people will have to live with it.
Yeah, thanks a lot, asshole.
It's a good system. It updates the graphical power of the DS to something more in line with what the PSP had. Hell, I played with the 3D off for most of the OOT of time re-release and it still looked beautiful. It was fun to play early parts of the game in 3D, but the further in I got the more of a pain in the ass it became since I'm the kind of person who will tilt their handheld when really trying to beat the piss out of an enemy. Finding myself suddenly blind because my picture went all wonky from not being in the proper position started to get to me.
The claim of having to rigidly keep your head in a single position is something I don't really get. I played with the 3D on and was able to sit in quite a relaxed position while viewing the screen, but again I'm a tilter. (It makes me turn sharper in mario kart, but shh don't tell anyone)
I think this is a good stance for them to take, make 3D a feature that is there but isn't the core focus of the handheld. As for gamers having a short attention span when it comes to new things...yeah I'd believe it, but I don't think it's the reason why the 3DS saw such a lackluster release. I think the high price and wimpy release roster were to blame there.
The claim of having to rigidly keep your head in a single position is something I don't really get. I played with the 3D on and was able to sit in quite a relaxed position while viewing the screen, but again I'm a tilter. (It makes me turn sharper in mario kart, but shh don't tell anyone)
I think this is a good stance for them to take, make 3D a feature that is there but isn't the core focus of the handheld. As for gamers having a short attention span when it comes to new things...yeah I'd believe it, but I don't think it's the reason why the 3DS saw such a lackluster release. I think the high price and wimpy release roster were to blame there.
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itchcrotch said:
I've never had that reaction, how close is the screen to your face?
OT: So, not supporting your flagship handheld at E3, not releasing any games that are worth a damn for it and then blaming your customers? Nice work EA, didn't see you come in.
A good point. Mind pointing out where in your source article he's quoted as saying that?Sarah LeBoeuf said:
Yeah, keep telling yourself that. Everyone said the same thing with the wii, and look how well that turned out. People also said Sonys hand-held would finally topple Nintendo from the market because their system had such amazing graphics! Nope.. the 3DS might not be in the best spot, but it's sitting at the top of Olympus compared to the position the vita is in.Clearing the Eye said:
You can't really explain it away, its already known that it affects people differently, some people get headaches/eye pain from it, some get none. The same can be said of 3D movies.ResonanceSD said:
I'm of opinion that if a significant amount of consumers get pain from simply playing a video game or watching a movie, then it's obviously a bad fucking product.
Good catch there, seems like a bizarrely random interpretation of Satoru's comments from the news poster here.
Oh I just love seeing these posts. My grin grows ever wider.xPixelatedx said:
"A gimmick! A gimmick! My kingdom for a gimmick!" Nintendo will wail, while I laugh hysterically over the smoldering wreckage of cheap plastic and novelty du jour. I'll breath deep the smokey ruins of their once great company, drawn and quartered on the closing hinges of history books lined with raped franchises and beaten horses.
"Just one more mini game collection!" They'll plead. "One more casual sports game for grandma! Spare us and we promise to only remake Super Mario and The Legend of Zelda a dozen more times!" The casuals will simply ignore the cries, uninterested in laying down a few hundred dollars for a controller to a paperweight they've forgotten they own.
Nintendo turns to those they once loved--the taken for granted mistress, bruised and ashamed from years of abuse. "Hardcore, take me back! I've changed. I promise. Look, look! See," the flailing beast begs. "Look at all these five-year-old games from the other consoles I ported just for you. Look how hardcore I am now!" The long abused spouse finally turns her back and walks into the sunset, leaving the toppled prince to die alone, forgotten and mourned by no one. A relic of its time, now condemned to memory, just as with all those before it.
*Maniacal laughter*
I tried it in a store with super mario land, switched the 3D on and off and fought a very hard battle to see any notable difference. I think there might have been a bit more depth, and a bit more migraine on my part when 3D was on, but nothing of noteworthy importance.
Not impressed.
Not impressed.
Good. The 3D adds nothing and hurts my eyes. And having to hold the thing perfectly still to keep it 3D rather than just blurry kind of defeats the point of a portable console.
itchcrotch said:
My point is that in the source article, he doesn't actually get quoted anywhere as blaming gamers for a short attention span.
There was only one game where the 3D was actually necessary for the gameplay and it was a first party title, so obviously it wouldn't be something gamers were interested in.
So what's next, a cheaper model 3DS without the option for 3D that can play basically every 3DS game?
So what's next, a cheaper model 3DS without the option for 3D that can play basically every 3DS game?
I think I'll blame my lack of interest on the console solely on the excruciating headaches that come with 3D and the general lack of titles other than Metal Gear (which I already own three copies of on the PS2) and the currently unreleased Animal Crossing 3D and Monster Hunter 3G.
Do I think 3D should be stripped from all new systems? Yes, it'll cut down on cost, but on the other hand people do like the mechanic and I'm sure it could be used to good effect eventually so perhaps it should stay in some form, but not as the main marketing strategy.
But ultimately Nintendo needs to stop pushing hardware gimmicks and just focus on what makes their handhelds great, exclusive titles, slick gameplay (which means a second analog!) and experiences with a decidedly Japanese flavour we can't get anywhere else.
Do I think 3D should be stripped from all new systems? Yes, it'll cut down on cost, but on the other hand people do like the mechanic and I'm sure it could be used to good effect eventually so perhaps it should stay in some form, but not as the main marketing strategy.
But ultimately Nintendo needs to stop pushing hardware gimmicks and just focus on what makes their handhelds great, exclusive titles, slick gameplay (which means a second analog!) and experiences with a decidedly Japanese flavour we can't get anywhere else.
That's the thing; the casuals all bought the Wii, played it for a week and then left it in their cupboard to die of dust. The hardcore market got kicked in the teeth over and over again, with nothing but mini-games and rehashes in the vast, vast wasteland between genuinely good releases. Now the casual market will ignore the WiiU ("I already bought a Wii and I never use it--why do I want a new controller for it?") and the hardcore crowed has no reason to get one ("Ports and one or maybe two original games? I was already bitten by the Wii once, shame on you, but twice? Ha).j-e-f-f-e-r-s said:
It's all been leading up to this. This is the point where it finally hits the fan. Nintendo has been riding high on a market that no longer cares enough to make it a success on their own and the rest of us are just flat out sick of shitty hardware with next to no support. The WiiU will sell, I've no doubt--fuck, if Sony can vomit out shit handhelds and still sell something, this will too. But, unlike the Wii, the sales will stop quite fast and the mountainous wall of disappointment that's been groaning under the strain of shitty handhelds and zero third party support will give. The perfect storm, if you will. I guarantee it.
I'm not anti Nintendo. I liked some of their stuff. But it's damn well about time they get spanked for abusing their market. All the goodwill that got them to this point will finally have run out. The Nintendo we romanticize in our heads is gone. The facade has (or very shortly, will) slip off and they'll cop a fair slap to the face with the cavalcade of gimmicks they shoveled out year after year.
Basically, they blew it all on the way up and it's gonna be one hell of a fall.
I enjoyed writing that story, lol. As silly as it is, it made getting my opinion across more fun than just saying it ^^