60 FPS is Modern Warfare 3's "Competitive Edge"

[WanderingFool]

Awesome, now COD4 can run at 60FP... wait, what? This isnt COD4? But it looks exactly the same, and plays the...

How bout you dazzle us with something that might actually garner some actual interest...

 

[Joshimodo]

So they're basically saying their game doesn't require the same performance as "competitors", so it can render pointless frames? Great job...

 

[BRMXJzjsoawk321]

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[Flutterguy]

The human eye can only see about 30 FPS, so 60 FPS is obviously going to make this game sow better.

 

[maturin]

Is it really that hard to achieve 60fps when you're game is just glorified whack-a-mole, with on-rails AI waddling between scripted explosions? At no point does the engine have to do anything particularly stressful.

 

[Awexsome]

More players? Ha. Ha-ha-ha.

Last I heard Battlefield will still only have 12 v 12 borefests that always happened on Bad Company 2. As evil as Kotick is even a broken clock is right twice a day. Right now CoD is looking better than BF3 with how much focus and display is going into the PC version.

But on my laptop I'm lucky to break 10 FPS on more complex maps or busy servers in TF2. I'll stick with the probably more unbalanced, but actually fun CoD over BF on my 360.

You do realise BF3 is going to be 64 players right?

Try 32 v 32 not so boringfests.

Yeah, 32 v 32. On the PC

On the PC the better game has been all but set in stone for a long time already.

I'm saying Kotick is actually right for once in calling BF3 a PC-centric game. I don't expect consoles to have a PC level kind of experience because that would be impossible. But until BF proves any different the console experience of it has been right out boring most of the time.

I don't see an issue with PC gamers getting the better deal for once. As much as I don't want to admit it. This console gen is on it's last legs. There's only so much you can do with 7 year old hardware.

a 2013-14 release for the next gen may be a necessity really. Even though I won't be getting them until like 2015+ lol.

That's a whole different topic of PC vs console.

CoD is looking like the better game on the platform relevant to my interests at this point. The PC gamers will get probably an even better game on their platform with BF3 and I'm really dreading when that happens because on this site? Not gonna be fun trying to get across to a lot of people that the PC is only 1/3 of the game.

 

[JochemDude]

I'm not impressed Triple A hollywood movies are shot in 1080i 30fps. I do not doubt that my PC will run it at that speed too.
Frostbite has some damn impressive lighting and effects to it.

 

[Verlander]

After watching high framerate films, I will concede that this is a good thing.

Higher frame rate > 3D in any animated media you care to mention

 

[Sicram]

60 fps is their only edge. Rest of the game seems blunt like a hammer.

 

[Verlander]

Umm, real life is equivalent to 25 fps. There's no reason to go over 35 fps unless you simply want more work or bragging rights

Sorry, but no it isn't? Unless you have some pretty impressive source for that incorrect nugget of information...

 

[Houss]

This is sad and pathetic. Their game engine is fucking ancient and it is nothing close to what bf3 will offer. Yeah sure we here have 60 fps but im sorry its tetris.

 

[jpoon]

That's some stupid shit to say considering 95% of all console games aren't in 60fps. 60 Is nice and all but a crapload of my absolute favorite games are definitely not running more than 30 fps.

 

[NicolasMarinus]

It's funny how people seem to have no issue with downloading films at 700MB (which means quality is 4 times worse than a dvd), but are fanatical when it comes to game graphics.

 

[Awexsome]

More players? Ha. Ha-ha-ha.

Last I heard Battlefield will still only have 12 v 12 borefests that always happened on Bad Company 2. As evil as Kotick is even a broken clock is right twice a day. Right now CoD is looking better than BF3 with how much focus and display is going into the PC version.

But on my laptop I'm lucky to break 10 FPS on more complex maps or busy servers in TF2. I'll stick with the probably more unbalanced, but actually fun CoD over BF on my 360.

You do realise BF3 is going to be 64 players right?

Try 32 v 32 not so boringfests.

Yeah, 32 v 32. On the PC

On the PC the better game has been all but set in stone for a long time already.

I'm saying Kotick is actually right for once in calling BF3 a PC-centric game. I don't expect consoles to have a PC level kind of experience because that would be impossible. But until BF proves any different the console experience of it has been right out boring most of the time.

I don't see an issue with PC gamers getting the better deal for once. As much as I don't want to admit it. This console gen is on it's last legs. There's only so much you can do with 7 year old hardware.

a 2013-14 release for the next gen may be a necessity really. Even though I won't be getting them until like 2015+ lol.

That's a whole different topic of PC vs console.

CoD is looking like the better game on the platform relevant to my interests at this point. The PC gamers will get probably an even better game on their platform with BF3 and I'm really dreading when that happens because on this site? Not gonna be fun trying to get across to a lot of people that the PC is only 1/3 of the game.

It wouldn't only be a third of the game. It would be one complete game. With 2 worse versions available.

Honestly though, I think what the 360 n PS3 are getting is going to be great anyway. I haven't seen any gameplay from MW3. But I'm not expecting much of a changeup from their last 2 games really. They're fun and I enjoy playing them. But I'm looking forward to BF more.

Yeah, I'll probably end up getting both like I did with the Bad company and CoD series but I'm not counting it out yet.

Just when DICE has come out really wanting to be the guy who can put CoD in its place they should be able to flaunt some things over CoD in its home court, the consoles. I'll reserve judgement until they come out but I'm not really expecting much change from either series. CoD from its series and Battlefield from the Bad Company series except for the campaign (which is the biggest wild card IMO. Seeing if DICE will make a campaign like, not like, better, or worse than CoDs)

 

[Vigormortis]

Can the untrained human eye even tell the difference between 30fps and 60fps?

In most cases, yes it can. However, the average player will hardly notice. Though, fluid movements do noticeably lose some of that fluidity at lower frame rates. Still, Activision claiming MW3 can run up to 60 frames means nothing if it's not constant. Frame drops are far more noticeable than low frame rates. I'd much rather have a stable, constant 30 to 40 frame count than one that fluctuates all over the place and sometimes[/b] hit's 60.

That said, it's been shown in rather extensive studies that the human eye and brain loses it's ability to distinguished frame rate differences at any rate above 120 frames or so. So, any attempt to push your hardware or remove features to allow your game to run at frame counts higher than that is an exercise in pointless futility. (and done solely for bragging rights)

Congrats InfinitySledge, you made a six year old engine run at 60FPS. You want a cookie?

I'm thinking more of a gentle hand on the shoulder and a disappointed look. If the best they can do is claim their game "supposedly" has a better frame rate, I'm pretty sure even Mr. Kotick is afraid of hearing a death knell for the franchise.

 

[Glademaster_v1legacy]

I was thinking of Hz not fps. Silly me.

Bet that mistake hertz.



Seriously though, are these guys still in juniors or something?
My game runs faster!
My game runs smoother!
My game's dad can beat up your game's dad!

Grow up before you bring California down on us again.

Yeah I used to play CoD 2 at about 20FPS when others had it at 200FPS when for CoD games all you need really is about 30 FPS. Although they are really just pandering to their apparent target audience with this. Even look at the trailer when they try to use 1337 which is kinda funny.

 

[5t3v0]

Congrats InfinitySledge, you made a six year old engine run at 60FPS. You want a cookie?

Try over 10... I think it uses the unreal engine or something...