600,000 + Facebook Accounts Get Hacked Daily

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Athinira said:
Maybe you just suck at gauging peoples motivation.
*looks at 522 friends on here*

Probably not. Still don't trust any of them enough to give them my log-in details.

ProjectTrinity said:
Oh you poor dear. It sounds like you've had a rough life. =(
Meh, no worse than some others. Trust is a first world problem.
 

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At first I was like "Shit...", then I was like "Uh oh...", then I was like "Meh, I don't log in enough to really care."

Seriously though, when you ignore the huge raw numbers, that's quite impressive. My account has been hacked once, and I certainly hope it never happens again. Thankfully all my friends and family were smart enough to realize I wouldn't use the chat feature, let alone to ask for thousands of dollars.
 

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viranimus said:
So wait.. facebook is admitting to experiencing hundreds of thousands manual intrusions into their internal infrastructure daily?!?!?!

Oh, no, its referring to instances of unauthorized accesses that were obtained by individual failed security measures.

For the love of god, will people stop using the work Hack incorrectly? Forgetting to log yourself out and someone gaining access after you walk away is not hacking and really its getting quite tiresome to watch people irresponsibly attempt to co-opt a word because it sounds better than saying "600,000 people unknowingly yielded their security credentials for their facebook account to people with malicious intention aimed at gaining unauthorized levels of access to their mundane and irrelevant personal garbage."

Heres the difference. Think of just about any action tv trope youve ever seen. If someone knocks out a bad guy in the enemies base, and steals their keycard to use at a security door. Thats not hacking. When they go up to the locked door, remove an access panel somewhere adjacent to the door, and start rewiring or reprogramming the security door to force it open. THATS hacking.

Really.. Is it really that hard?
Actually, the word you're looking for is cracking. Or used to be, before the definitions all blurred. Those people you're correcting are just a little further down the line than you.


Cracking is breaking into a protected server or a protected file using tools.
Hacking is merely solving problems in unconventional ways (like making a program run on older, incompatible hardware by fooling the system check and cutting some functionality).

You're correct in that most compromised accounts only involve social engineering, where the victim is tricked into giving the password. No hacking. No cracking.
 

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The_root_of_all_evil said:
*looks at 522 friends on here*

Probably not. Still don't trust any of them enough to give them my log-in details.
Radelaide said:
Clearly, the people you hang out with are self-serving idiots. I'm a friend of Root's and wouldn't do that to him. Nor would any of my friends or my boyfriend. Your friends suck.
Raidelaide: Clearly, the point passed way over your head.

I got plenty of friends who i would trust enough with my login details. However, as i said, i only have one friend who i trust absolutely 100% in everything he does that affects me. He is the guy i can call at any time without him getting pissed. This morning, for example, i called him at 5 AM (actually 6 AM since we moved away from DST in Denmark tonight) and asked him to come pick me up from clubbing. Can you honestly say that most of your friends wouldn't get pissed if you woke them up at the middle of the night with a phone call to ask them to come pick your lazy ass up (i could have just taken the train if i liked)?

Almost none of the people i hang out with "suck". That still doesn't mean that they deserve unconditional trust, and all I'm doing is advising CAUTION. Do you trust all of your friends enough to, say, borrow them $1000 if they suddenly came and asked you out of the blue? If your answer to that is yes, then i would say you are a fool, because i can guarantee you that at least some of them is going to screw you over on that one. There doesn't pass along a single month where i don't have a talk with at least one or more girls i know, where either someone they thought they could trust disappointed them in some way, or some guy they had fallen for turned out to be an asshole, and i tell them the same thing EVERY - SINGLE - TIME: Be careful! Because every single time, it's because they failed to gauge the motivations of the other person, and it especially pains me every time it's a guy that does it to them, because guys are in fact so easy to gauge once you know what to look for.

Bottom line is that i have probably more friends than my best friend who i CAN trust in most (not all!) aspects. That doesn't necessarily mean it's a good idea to take the gamble if it's about something important. If we go back to the train example, he is probably the only guy I'd trust not to get mad at me for calling at that time at night where he is sleeping. Does that mean my other friends suck? Of course not, it's just that few people would put up with being woken at that time. On the other hand, i would trust very few of my friends (maybe only 3-5 of the ~900 people i know) with a $1000 loan out of the blue.

See the difference?

It's worth remembering that it was ROOT who argued that true friends you can trust 100% doesn't exist, not me. You might say that you would never "betray" him, and that may be true, but apparently he doesn't trust you completely :)
 

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Most "hacking" on Facebook is just idiots who give people their passwords anyway. No ammount of security is ever going to fix that.
 
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Athinira said:
See the difference?
Yes.
600,000 + Facebook Accounts Get Hacked Daily
Most of those accounts are hacked by people who know the affinities of the users.

You add another link of users who know the affinities, and you've just doubled the compromisation chance; not halved it.

May I also suggest that attacking the moral fibre of two long-term contributors to the site may not make you any more friends. Especially given Rade is twice the woman you could ever be.
 

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The_root_of_all_evil said:
Most of those accounts are hacked by people who know the affinities of the users.

You add another link of users who know the affinities, and you've just doubled the compromisation chance; not halved it.
I don't necessarily disagree on that. I was just arguing your point about friendships.

The_root_of_all_evil said:
May I also suggest that attacking the moral fibre of two long-term contributors to the site may not make you any more friends. Especially given Rade is twice the woman you could ever be.
Ever heard the expression "Assumptions is the mother of all fuckups"?

1) I'm not a woman (at least not last time i checked)
2) Even if Rade is your friend, you have no idea who I am, what i do, how intelligent i am and what people think about me, so you can't in any way compare her to me. Having just admitted I'm a man, i could potentially still be ten times the woman she could ever be, but neither of us would be the wiser about it.

As for your history here on the Escapist, i couldn't care less, and neither could most people here. May i suggest that you trust your arguments to carry their own weight, rather than relying on your history to do that. Having been here for a long time and being a contributor doesn't add any credibility to it (I also happen to be a contributor/journalist for a different site, meaning that i do something along the lines of what you do). Most people reading your last paragraph would probably conclude that it's a rather arrogant, immature and non-productive way to respond to me. Not really a nice way to live up to your reputation, assuming it means anything to you of course. I also referred to your own argument, that more or less stated that noone could be trusted unconditionally. If anything, you attacked your friends moral fibre yourself :)

As for me, I'm not here to make friends. Anyone who takes your side in the debate simply because of who you are is neither worth befriending or debating with.