Considering the shooter is a born-again Baptist and his church was super-anti-feminist, it's kind of relevant.
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8 People Killed In Atlanta Massage Parlor Shootings
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What do you believe gives you the inalienable right to push absolutely bovine excrement narratives and then get upset so when it's called out?
That's sort of like saying "Considering the victim was poisoned by deadly nightshade, we should really be having a debate about tomatoes."
Wow you are really tone deaf you know that? I don't have to listen to your dribble. You keep doing the same freaking thing over and over and over again. You are really that bored aren't you? I'll do myself and everyone else a favor and a conversation. You never have anything of value to say. Now beat It.
Could you summarise the narrative you see here? Because if it's this -
, then it's hardly unreasonable.
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You insisted there was no racial dimension to the killings. So if you want to take this guy at his word that it was about sex, these are relevant questions to ask.
The narrative was "Clearly the dude is a racist who hates Asians"
Then when the shooter said it wasn't racially motivated
"Clearly we shouldn't listen to the shooters own claims about his motive despite the fact every time a shooter has had a racial motivation in the past it was automatically believe as the truth and the whole claim of it being racially motivated is based on such previous shooters. Also such previously shooters in racially motivated attacks just couldn't shut the fuck up for 5 minutes about how they killed people because of race in stark contrast to the present one".
To me the sexual puritanism couched in a new veneer of third wave feminist liberation is actually way more conservative, growing up in a christian conservative country and looking at the US as this liberated place I can see that it is actually lurching backwards towards this same puritanical prudism. It's the same old shit only given a new justification. People fundamentally still feel puritanical and icky about sex but they needed a new philosophy to justify their feelings. It's still just the same oppressive and restrictive force though, perpetrated by the same sorts of people. The joyless and bored who can't let other people have fun if that fun isn't deemed appropriate.
The non-conservative way is to just have fun with your own sort of thing (and go find it if you don't find anything fun) without caring about other people's fun. This whole "your fun makes you evil and harmful to me" line of thinking is about as conservative as it gets. It's basically the concept of sin, of a thought that by merely existing in your brain taints your being and dooms you. I'm not interested in that stuff any more lol.
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And right there you just torpedoed your own credibility (assuming you had any left) because:
1. You understand nothing about 3rd wave feminism, you're going strictly off of hearsay.
2. Third wave has given way to intersectionalism. Had you bothered doing the homework, you would have already known that.
3. You're still effectively arguing for technocracy and neo-liberal capitalism over human rights.
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Technological advancements give us the leeway to implement or more fully realize human rights, and the free time to analyze other ones that we may deserve but not yet have implemented. I don't see why in a more advanced future it wouldn't be a right for everyone to have a house and food and belongings because technology allows such things to be manufactured without much cost any longer for example. Hell, we may even have human rights to immortality at some point. I'd love for that to be a human right.
Intersectionality is a limitation that tries to put people in boxes. In actuality people are infinitely more complex than the categories which intersectionality allows for. It's pretending to be more cognizant of the individual circumstances of people but in effect all it does is elevate a certain small part of each person (stuff like race and gender and sexuality and general "privilege points"), just treating each person as a fully different and individualized being is way more cognizant of those person-specific circumstances that we have to adapt how we treat that person based on. Instead of having a twitter bio worth of information suffice for determining how we have to perceive someone, we now have to actually do the hard work of meeting them and getting to know them and forming an individual impression of them and using that information to calibrate our attitude towards them. I see it as totally dehumanizing to ignore all of a person's being outside of the few bits of them that intersectionality elevates to god status at the expense of the majority of who that person truly is.
For me, what things people choose to do in their fun time, such as being a gamer or reading books or what have you, is infinitely more important about who they are than the privilege points they have or lack. If I see a new person in my locals I won't ask them who they fuck, I'll ask them what game they play. If you can't see why such a thing would be more informative then you're indeed that bored funless person who only has their happenstance identities and nothing else to define themselves by. We're not all like you. But if you tried to treat those things as being of the same gravitas as someone's race or what have you the intersectionality people would laugh at you. This is enough to tell me that they don't actually care about learning about people's lives.
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So what video game are they blaming this time?
I've seen nothing but "stop Asian hate" messages from every clout chasing company on twitter and i assume it's this.
I've seen nothing but "stop Asian hate" messages from every clout chasing company on twitter and i assume it's this.
But in practice we often don't. That's the problem. Not only are you ignorant of feminism and have no intention of learning, you assume that progress is guaranteed by having all the shinies. It is most certainly not. And when progress is defeated, the process is slow and painful. But I'm really not interested in derailing this thread attempting to carve on rotten wood. Suffice it to say there are reasons why feminism is still an evolving area of study and futurism is no longer in vogue.
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Honestly, I don't even know how many of the users here recognize who they're talking to and who says what. Like, there's like 5 conservatives on this whole website, and people still can't keep straight who said what.
Example:
I did not do that.
Because you all sound exactly the same. Anyway, do you want to discuss the influence the shooter's religion had on his decision, or not?
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You can stop making excuses. Either be honest about your assholery or not. That will tell you what kind of person you are.
The US does indeed have a sort of conservative prudish attitude towards sex (while at other times being grossly oversexualised, like those weird teen pagents). It's a different, but still highly flawed, set of attitudes-- my point being that I can appreciate American culture while criticising certain aspects of it: no aspect is universal or all-encompassing. Ditto Japanese culture.
Right, but nobody in this thread is condemning others for being personally sexually liberated, doing what they want. I'm condemning a set of social restrictions and expectations placed on young women, which act to constrict and limit what they can do.
None yet t's just the normal trying to look good for companies because they believe it will make people more likely to support them thinking they're a good company
Particularly funny when Activision Blizzard are pushing the message out when it's obvious they only care for Asians in mainland China who also aren't part of minorities being sent to camps. Hong Kong protests? Yeh they've never heard of them and anyone who says anything about it will be fired.
Actually it would be ignorant of Feminism to suggest the women deciding to be housewives is not a choice of their own and to be considered equally valid. That is unless by Feminism you mean the present 4th wave often sex negative kind that seems more like Miss Havisham bitter and twisted than anything caring for actual equal rights. Feminism isn't a singular entity
Ah yes "It's tone deaf" to not blindly bang the drum for whatever narrative is going just to make people feel vindicated a bit more in their hatred of certain groups. Because that isn't at all tone deaf when you're trying to argue against hatred or anything........
Just because you find no value doesn't mean others don't. All it says is you're too determined not to let anything breach the nice echo chamber you've built where you ideas and beliefs can't be challenged.