Review: World of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King
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ok dude...the review was ok...if i didnt already regularly watch projectlore weekly, It gave tons more info about the expansion, and the entire death knight starter area!
I would say that World of Warcraft falls into the middle ground. It's gotten better through the years, some of the pre-Burning Crusade reputation grinds were mind numbing. A number of other MMOs come to mind with much worse and longer grinds: pre-changes Star Wars Galaxies, EvE Online, Everquest, Lineage and Final Fantasy 11, to name a few.TOGSolid said:
Final Fantasy XI is grinding. In WoW, you level pretty much by *doing stuff* - questing, instancing, whatever. At no point have I ever found myself going "All right, now my only option is to go kill these same mobs for hours on end." That's pretty grind-lite compared to others in the genreTOGSolid said:
Good review, my mates who I used to run Kara with have all been convinced back into it and went to pre-order this arvo. I was still sure I wasn't going too...
But this review... I may have to re-asses my monetary management and try and find an extra $60.
But this review... I may have to re-asses my monetary management and try and find an extra $60.
I don't recall ever having to grind in EVE online, anyways well done review and I might have to take a look at it sometime down the road.Slycne said:
Although CoH/CoV kicks that into a tin hat.CantFaketheFunk said:Final Fantasy XI is grinding. In WoW, you level pretty much by *doing stuff* - questing, instancing, whatever. At no point have I ever found myself going "All right, now my only option is to go kill these same mobs for hours on end." That's pretty grind-lite compared to others in the genreTOGSolid said:
I think the thing that keeps me away from WoW was summmed up very well.
"It's may just seem like another set of things to keep you up until 4 in the morning, but at least you'll be having fun."
The Achievement system promotes staying up 'til the early hours just to get intangible rewards. Especially as most of them seem to be either solo-work or guild-based, so non-casual.
Let's face it, even with the social side, if you and your 'mates' (some of whom have very disturbing tendencies) were playing football or any other passtime for 8 hours a day or so; wouldn't you really be missing out on basic...well...living?
i dont care about the grinding, any RPG has it but Blizzard does one thing good at least, it dosent make it supper obvious and adds a bit to the grind, at least it does that. At least theres a new class and there will be things to do, to bad i am working that night
From what I have seen many of the achievements are actually very casual in nature. Of course as with anything in MMOs you can grind them to the point of non-fun, but if you take them as they come along during the course of playing they are lots of fun to get. Really how can using a toothpick be non-casual? Yeah there is an achievement for it.The_root_of_all_evil said:
I don't know if I really agree with you on this. I think plenty of the Achievements are completely casual. Like, for instance, I've been going for "The Explorer" title, which requires me to fully uncover all the maps on all four continents (Outland and Kalimdor done, working on Eastern Kingdoms now). That just requires me to ride around the world for a while, I don't need anyone else, I don't need any help to get it done. And I end up with a title. Pretty casual, I think!The_root_of_all_evil said:
Sure, some of the Achievements are pretty intense (clear the Obsidian Sanctum with all three drakes alive, win Arathi Basin 2000-0 in 6 minutes or less, to name two) but that's why they're *Achievements*. You can get plenty of them just playing normally.
And of course, Tim beats me to it
Given the small amount I know about WoW, uncovering four continent maps seems way less than 'casual'...Given two hours a night play, how long would you say it would take you to do that?CantFaketheFunk said: