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Morrowind. If you can't bear 2002 graphics, Oblivion, but I DEFINITELY recommend Morrowind. What's more, don't just go around doing nothing, talk to people, get random quests, join guilds, and even better, Great Houses (try Telvanni, they own). I can guarantee you'll like it, maybe not at first, but still.

The reasons I'm not recommending Oblivion are the glitches, clunky interface, mostly boring gameworld, and (as ZP made overly clear) the constant immersion breaking.
 

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Tales of Vesperia for 360.

It is a RPG from Japan with all the typical main character just reached puberty and so on, I haven't played it but I have the sister series Tales of Symphonia for the Wii and it's one of my favorite games ever, my friend owns this one. They have some parts being really easy but the world is gigantic and you don't have to stay in the main path all the time.

good:
60+ hours of gameplay (main story)
Lots of hard bosses
(Co-op campaign and if it's as in the wii you can join anytime in the game)
Good and well thought/told story
Lots of side missions and hidden stuff that takes gameplay over 100 hours to complete if doing everything
Great customization possibilities

minus:
Normal JRPG characters with lots of younglings and their typical looks and maybe one or two older chars
Some puzzles are damn easy but still require lots of time to complete

Verdict:
As said before I have only watched some when my friend plays but it seems a lot like Tales of Symphonia and those games rule! he also said the story is easier to follow than Symphonias and that the gameplay/game mechanics are better for Vesperia (360 version).

This is all I can come up with for now and I may edit if something else pops into my mind.
 

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Jasper Jeffs said:
LoTRO went free to play recently, you could try that out. I don't think I need arguements for an MMO if you've played WoW, they reward you for putting time in, and have almost limitless re-play value. Apart from that, I'd argue Oblivion GOTY on PC, there's plenty of mods to keep you interested and a full blown expansion pack that's supposed to be really good. Although if you'd prefer Fallout I'd suggest that. I personally hate the combat in F3 but adore Oblivion's clusterfuck melee combat.
So there is a GOTY of Oblivion?

G'damn, haven't searched the shops well enough then! Prefer some Melee clusterfucks. I have played neither F3 or Dragon Age and seen scraps of Oblivion. So I do not prefer any game at this point. Still reading into them all. Maybe you can enlighten me?
 

Exia91

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Guffe said:
Tales of Vesperia for 360.

It is a RPG from Japan with all the typical main character just reached puberty and so on, I haven't played it but I have the sister series Tales of Symphonia for the Wii and it's one of my favorite games ever, my friend owns this one. They have some parts being really easy but the world is gigantic and you don't have to stay in the main path all the time.

good:
60+ hours of gameplay (main story)
Lots of hard bosses
(Co-op campaign and if it's as in the wii you can join anytime in the game)
Good and well thought/told story
Lots of side missions and hidden stuff that takes gameplay over 100 hours to complete if doing everything
Great customization possibilities

minus:
Normal JRPG characters with lots of younglings and their typical looks and maybe one or two older chars
Some puzzles are damn easy but still require lots of time to complete

Verdict:
As said before I have only watched some when my friend plays but it seems a lot like Tales of Symphonia and those games rule! he also said the story is easier to follow than Symphonias and that the gameplay/game mechanics are better for Vesperia (360 version).

This is all I can come up with for now and I may edit if something else pops into my mind.
Thanks for the advice, But I already completed it. Enjoyed it thoroughly.
 

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Exia91 said:
Guffe said:
Tales of Vesperia for 360.

It is a RPG from Japan with all the typical main character just reached puberty and so on, I haven't played it but I have the sister series Tales of Symphonia for the Wii and it's one of my favorite games ever, my friend owns this one. They have some parts being really easy but the world is gigantic and you don't have to stay in the main path all the time.

good:
60+ hours of gameplay (main story)
Lots of hard bosses
(Co-op campaign and if it's as in the wii you can join anytime in the game)
Good and well thought/told story
Lots of side missions and hidden stuff that takes gameplay over 100 hours to complete if doing everything
Great customization possibilities

minus:
Normal JRPG characters with lots of younglings and their typical looks and maybe one or two older chars
Some puzzles are damn easy but still require lots of time to complete

Verdict:
As said before I have only watched some when my friend plays but it seems a lot like Tales of Symphonia and those games rule! he also said the story is easier to follow than Symphonias and that the gameplay/game mechanics are better for Vesperia (360 version).

This is all I can come up with for now and I may edit if something else pops into my mind.
Thanks for the advice, But I already completed it. Enjoyed it thoroughly.
dang, and I thought the Tales of series isn't that well known. I hope my description of the game is somewhat accurate so that maybe someone else reading this will pick interest. There was one guy above saying lotro. I started again playing it when it got free, I played it a little when it cost, just finished Red Steel 2 so maybe it's a bit more lotro from now on. It's pretty fun and easy to learn, have fun in your quest of finding a game and I hope you find a good one. I don't play much PC and I don't own a 360 so I am of no further use for you but I have a friend with those two platforms so I might get back in a couple of days if he recommends something. I am eagerly waiting for Force Unleashed II myself and just about a month and it'll hit the stores.
 

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I can only help you on the PC front. but let me see...

A little old:

Diablo 2 + lord of destruction:
It may be old, but it is still good.
it will run on ANYTHING!
it's cheap.
If you haven't tried it, I will recommend it.

Jade Empire:
It's Bioware.
It's probably cheap.
It's Bioware.

RTSs and TBSs

Many people are going to say Civ V so here is something else

Heroes of might and magic V Gold edition
my personal favourite
Lot of stuff + ok long campaign

Starcraft 2
25 hour long campaign
good story
very good multiplayer

Other stuff

Peggel + plant vs zombies
Cheap
you are not going to leave your home in days...
 

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X3 Terran Conflict if you're in to space sims. It has several different story driven campaigns and several free play starts with varying degrees of difficulty. Every race has it's own ships and you can buy them all, or capture them if you're feeling plucky. Owning and operating multiple ships at the same time. An ever changing economy where supply and demand actually matter. A huge universe to explore with plenty of hidden secrets to discover on your own.

The only real word of warning I have is that it has quite the steep learning curve as there isn't anything resembling a tutorial. It has a thing at the beginning that offers to teach you the basics of flight but I never went through it because I cut my teeth on Reunion which didn't have a tutorial. However the official Egosoft forums are usually pretty friendly and willing to help and there are plenty of user made guides on there for beginners.

It's $20 on Steam and well worth that price if you're into that sort of game.
 

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Daystar Clarion said:
Stop sign: ...
Malkavian: No, you stop!
Stop sign: ...
Malkavian: YOU STOP!
Stop sign: ...
Malkavian: You've made a powerful enemy this day, sign.
That already sounds better than 99% of the dialogue in your average Bioware game. I'm sold.

Besides this Vampire Masquerade suggestion, I would have to suggest Fallout 3 goty along with almost everyone here. That and Oblivion goty are probably the greatest value for your money games this generation.

If you have others to play with however you must get Borderlands. Lots of customization with skills and millions of guns.

You might also want to pick up Sims 3 when that comes out if you want to customize appearance and environment more.
 

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Altorin said:
Fallout 3 Game of the Year edition.

Done.

Next question
well, that was a quick thread :) Just what I was thinking...
 

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Devil May Cry 4.
It's the only game to ever gives me chills from it's badassery.
Awesome fighting, slightly repetitive and tons of difficulties to playthrough and tons of upgrades to buy for moves. And far between achievements/trophies. Sure to take up time and it's pretty cheap now.
 

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PoisonUnagi said:
Morrowind. If you can't bear 2002 graphics, Oblivion, but I DEFINITELY recommend Morrowind. What's more, don't just go around doing nothing, talk to people, get random quests, join guilds, and even better, Great Houses (try Telvanni, they own). I can guarantee you'll like it, maybe not at first, but still.

The reasons I'm not recommending Oblivion are the glitches, clunky interface, mostly boring gameworld, and (as ZP made overly clear) the constant immersion breaking.
Morrowind on PC cause you can add like 30 or 40 mods without trouble !

Daystar Clarion said:
Vampire the Masquerade - Bloodlines.

Very fun and very cool take on the idea of vampires, based on the tabletop RPG. Great characters and awesome urban fantasy world.

For example. There are many different vampire clans, from the Gangrel (which are the equivalent of a Druidic vampire), to the Nosferatu who are vampires that are terribly deformed by their curse. My favourite? The Malkavian clan. They are vampires that are cursed with madness, using very whimsical and eccentric speech, not quite knowing where they are, they do have amazing insight however, but separating the crazy from the insight can by difficult. You know it's a good game when the Malkavians have conversations with a stop sign.
Good times....
 

C95J

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Exia91 said:
CJackson95 said:
Altorin said:
Fallout 3 Game of the Year edition.

Done.

Next question
well, that was a quick thread :)
Doesn't seem like it, since many more just as good or even better replies came after it.
naaaa, but it is over for me, Fallout 3 was all I need.
 

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Sacred 2. Its on both PC and Xbox 360 but unless you really prefer Xbox I would say it is be better on PC. It has really long gameplay, max level is 200 and you have 6 unique characters and every one of them can be play in several different ways. Game is really funny, there are many pop-culture references (I already mentioned somewhere on escapist that inquisitor class looks lot like the emperor from Star Wars, he can shoot lightning out of his hands, some of his helmets remind me Darth Vader and there are light saber later in the game but this is only one of thousands of things that I find funny). If you are a loot whore you gonna love it. World is huge, almost like in MMORPG, there are plenty of bosses, quests and enemies, enemy levels scale with you (in good way, not like in Oblivion) yet there are 5 difficulty settings (3 unlockable). Only 3 things I dont liked are that quests may get repetative after while, story isnt that good and there isnt much character customization unless you get expansion pack which adds some but fighting style customizations are really widely varied. From what I heard multiplayer is also very good but I havent tried it yet. Game should cost only 20? or maybe even less now and Ive got to say its probably the best spent money on game ever for me.
EDIT: And also you better patch it. And you dont have to add the expansions patch, it doesnt really add that much.
 

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Exia91 said:
Jasper Jeffs said:
LoTRO went free to play recently, you could try that out. I don't think I need arguements for an MMO if you've played WoW, they reward you for putting time in, and have almost limitless re-play value. Apart from that, I'd argue Oblivion GOTY on PC, there's plenty of mods to keep you interested and a full blown expansion pack that's supposed to be really good. Although if you'd prefer Fallout I'd suggest that. I personally hate the combat in F3 but adore Oblivion's clusterfuck melee combat.
So there is a GOTY of Oblivion?

G'damn, haven't searched the shops well enough then! Prefer some Melee clusterfucks. I have played neither F3 or Dragon Age and seen scraps of Oblivion. So I do not prefer any game at this point. Still reading into them all. Maybe you can enlighten me?
oblivion has a game of the year edition, but it only includes knights of the nine and shimmering isle.. there are about 10 smaller DLC packs that aren't included

Exia91 said:
CJackson95 said:
Altorin said:
Fallout 3 Game of the Year edition.

Done.

Next question
well, that was a quick thread :)
Doesn't seem like it, since many more just as good or even better replies came after it.
Perhaps, but fallout 3 game of the year edition is exactly the game you asked for in your opening thread. It fills all of the criteria you laid out.
 

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The witcher? Im gonna get it myself, So I cant give you a review, but the Uk platinum edition has the direcors cut edition (which is avalble on steam for £12) PLus load of custom maps users have made with the creation tools they give you.

The orignal game (on release) boasted 90 hours
plus dlc
plus directors cut stuff
plus custom stuff

Your gonna have your hands fool. Just have a look at it first, I dont want no tears afterwards
 

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Hmm, since you've now bolded the "besides RPGs" bit, it seems I finally have the chance I've been waiting for... since I joined these forums really. What follows is a relatively short long fanboy tangent about a game I really like. Be warned, for gushing will ensue.

If you like RTS games...

Get Homeworld. NOW.

IMO, Homeworld is the best game ever made. It's brilliant in pretty much all respects. The gameplay is in full 3D, in space - and this is done simply enough that it's possible to learn it really quickly unless you're the kind of guy who gets confused in buildings with more than one floor. Furthermore, it simplifies the gameplay of general RTSs while keeping it challenging - as an example, it's the only RTS I've seen where your units will acknowledge they've been assigned to groups )pressing CTRL+1 to put things in Group 1 will not only result in them saying "Group 1, reporting" or some variation when you select them, but Fleet Command will provide you with constant updates on their status i.e "Group 1 is under attack", "group 1 reports victory" etc. Also, you can make groups within groups - call your whole strike fleet group 10 (done by pressing CTRL+0) and group all the fighters in Group 1, all the capital ships in Group 2 etc., allowing you to effectively micromanage without the irritation that usually accompanies RTS games in tense, action-filled moments. And finally, holding down CTRL and dragging a box around enemy units means you attack all of those enemy units).

The graphics, despite now being 11 years old (that's right, 1999 baby), are utterly beautiful - especially when you look at the backgrounds to most of the levels beyond the first 3, which are like playing inside a 3D painting masterpiece. Sometimes, when the fighting's done and you are left harvesting the remaining resources on the level (which can admittedly take a long time - one of the only criticisms I have for this piece of artwork), you find yourself just gawping at the backgrounds, lost in the wonder of how beautiful and colourful space is (and the atmospheric soundtrack - which we'll come onto - provides the perfect accompaniment).

The story is simple, but effective - it's not overrun with half-developed characters and MacGuffins, which are the kind of things RTS games shouldn't have. It focuses not on one guy, but on the plight of your faction as a whole as they travel through space. On top of this, said story is told with such atmosphere and emotion, that I'd say it's the most compelling story I've ever played through.

Then there's the soundtrack... oh lord. Oh lord, the soundtrack is the most beautiful thing ever composed for any videogame, ever. And this isn't even including the beautiful rendition of Agnus Dei that serves as its main theme. One of the pieces included is, I think, the single most atmospheric background theme tune you'll ever hear (you hear it in a nebula, you'll know what I mean when you do).

Even the voice acting is pretty good - it seems pretty emotionless when you first hear it, but it really grows on you.

Screw it, even if you don't like RTS games, you have to get this game. It plays very differently to your normal RTS, and I find myself returning to it much more often than I do to other RTS games like AoEII: AoK and Dawn of War.

Oh, and as to how long it'll keep you occupied? Well, an important thing you should know about the game is that it is very difficult. Another minor criticism I have of it is that the difficulty curve is more like a cliff - it's relatively easy for the first three missions, but you'll find yourself getting your ass repeatedly handed to you on a silver platter on every mission from the fourth onwards. Hell, even with the walkthroughs that I found downright necessary to complete the game with, you'll still get your arse kicked. The enemy AI is pretty good, as far as it goes - certainly good enough to catch the unwary off guard.

There's also some replay value in that there are multiple strategies you can use to complete the game - one thing I forgot to mention is that Homeworld has a persistent fleet, so units and resources you build in one mission carry over to the next in the linear plot (And no, linear =/= bad). Come to think of it, this leads me onto some advice - save all the time. Sometimes, you will find that if you completed one mission with only a couple of ships left and no RUs, you will be unable to complete the rest of the game, so you'll have to do that mission over from the point it started to go wrong. Come to think of it, this is another minor flaw - but it can be overcome through use of walkthroughs and repeated saving, so don't worry.

Hell, if you tire of the singleplayer campaign, you can always skirmish against the capable AI, or get Gameranger and play online (sadly WON support was retracted, so downloading Gameranger is the only way). The online community is small, but there'll typically be several games a day. Word of warning: Campaign and multi are different beasts, practice on skirmish first.

Phew. That was more words than I'm used to. Now that my blatant attempt to sell a game I'm a rampant fanboy over is done with, I've got to retreat away from the computer and into real-life-land. But take my advice, seriously. You won't be disappointed.
 

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I would suggest Fallout 3 GOTY edition. No better deal than a $50 game plus $50 worth of DLC...for $50. I easilly put 100+ hours into Fallout 3 without DLC, so i an only immagine how much content the GOTY is pushing out. Seriously, makes me with I'd simply waited for GOTY rather than buying the came closer to its release date.

If fallout isn't really your thing, then I would point you to Oblivion GOTY. Not as good of a deal as above, but still definitely worth your money.

Another couple good titles to look into would be the Mass Effect games. They run about 30 hours, but there's plenty of incentive to play through them 2-3 times, if not more. Its pretty ease to get 60+ hours out of each one. Plus, the first games sells for $20 while #2 is $30, so you can get both of them for the price of Fallout 3 GOTY.

Dragon Age also kills a shitload of time, but the gameplay may not be for everybody. If you don't get into the slower, more meticulous style of oldschool rpg action, then look elsewhere. Otherwise, you'll find and incredibly long and quite immersive RPG here. Don't even need the DLC to pump this one past 60 hours of gameplay.

Strangely enough, GTA 4 is another game you may want to look into. I'm pretty sure my first file ran like 40-60 hours, and I'd definitely say it was an immersive experience. Certainly a non traditional choice compared to the slew of RPG suggestions coming at you, but worth a look.