A cure for alcoholism?

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funguy2121

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I'm too lazy to source it at the moment (apologies), perhaps later. But I was listening to a doctor on NPR the other day, and he was discussing the drug natroxelene (almost certainly misspelled). He said the a Dr. Sinclair had discovered that for 15% of drinkers, consuming alcohol to excess over time actually rewired part of their brains so that endorphin receptors widened. Natroxelene works by blocking some of these receptors when taken with alcohol (in moderation), and over a period of 3-4 months re-wires the brain back to "normal." It's not a cure anymore than chemotherapy is for cancer, in that the beast can come back, but it's apparently proven effective for many people who continue to take natroxelene whenever they drink.

From what I can gather, it works like this: the involuntary part of a normal brain will say, after consuming a certain amount of drinks (of course this is variable depending on the individual), "we are buzzing now. We can lay off." Once those receptors widen, this part of the brain says "more, more more!" And this makes it harder for the voluntary part of the brain (that would be YOU) to slow down or cut one's self off.

Obviously, many in the AA/CDC/WHO crowd (read: status quo beneficiaries) aren't fond of this approach, but their recidivism rate is at %80-85.

So, escapists, what do you think?

Edit: The point is that this drug only works for people who have a genetic predisposition - the involuntary part of their brain is re-wired by alcoholic excess to constantly crave more, or to crave a larger sum when they are already drinking. So the point is not to escape accountability, but to aid the conscious mind by removing a damaged condition from the involuntary mind.
 

Cherry Cola

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I think a good cure would be to stop drinking.

Then again, I'm no doctor.
 

MurderousToaster

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Damn, that was a bit TL;DR.

But 15% of drinkers? That's a bit low to be a valid course of treatment. I suppose it could help a few people, though.
 

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HUBILUB said:
I think a good cure would be to stop drinking.

Then again, I'm no doctor.
You'd think that, but alcohol withdrawal is the only withdrawal you can die from. So if you're an extreme alcoholic and start going cold turkey, you're running the risk of death.
 

Cpt_Oblivious

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HUBILUB said:
I think a good cure would be to stop drinking.

Then again, I'm no doctor.
As a Doctor, I recommend this course of action.
MurderousToaster said:
You'd think that, but alcohol withdrawal is the only withdrawal you can die from. So if you're an extreme alcoholic and start going cold turkey, you're running the risk of death.
Then we slowly stop drinking, ease them off it.
 

Kollega

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Anything to battle alcoholism - even small things like that method - are a good thing in my book.
 

ostro-whiskey

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If you cannot stop of your own will, there is no hope for you, since you will most likely relapse even with medication.
 

funguy2121

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MurderousToaster said:
Damn, that was a bit TL;DR.

But 15% of drinkers? That's a bit low to be a valid course of treatment. I suppose it could help a few people, though.
Unless I misheard the doc, the 15% of drinkers who can be defined as alcoholics are whom this affects. The rest are abusing alcohol but not "alkies," or they're already drinking in moderation.
MurderousToaster said:
HUBILUB said:
I think a good cure would be to stop drinking.

Edit: TL;DR. ?? Sorry, I'm not hip to this here shit. Define?

Then again, I'm no doctor.
You'd think that, but alcohol withdrawal is the only withdrawal you can die from. So if you're an extreme alcoholic and start going cold turkey, you're running the risk of death.
That's not true. They discovered Natroxelene while looking into Noxelene, used by EMTs to drive junkies right out of the OD state, and it can be life-threatening.

I would always recommend that someone try to control their drinking on their own first, but it's clear that people like Hubilub either didn't read the entire post or don't know a lot of alcoholics. Quittin' ain't any easier than pimpin'.
 

DazZ.

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Could sew your mouth shut...

Best way to quit would be willpower in my opinion though, otherwise as soon as you've been cured by this method you're just going to think your not addicted now and can drink, then get addicted again over time and get in a cycle of being addicted and not. With willpower you won't drink again.
 

funguy2121

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I'm gonna add this to the OP for anybody else joining the thread. The point is that this drug only works for people who have a genetic predisposition - the involuntary part of their brain is re-wired by alcoholic excess to constantly crave more, or to crave a larger sum when they are already drinking. So the point is not to escape accountability, but to aid the conscious mind by removing a damaged condition from the involuntary mind.
 

revjay

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I literally almost drank myself to death, I really don't think a pill would make me able to go back. Could be wrong but this whole not dying thing is pretty catchy so Ima not risk it.
 

funguy2121

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Booze Zombie said:
I would say the best cure is moderation, sorry to be cliched.
That's hardly cliched. It's a theory that's been under attack for years. I can't figure out who stands to directly profit from the status quo of alcoholics anonymous and all the other organizations that declare alcoholism a disease (does anyone else still laugh at this), but they defend these dated, obsolete ideals as if their life depended on it.
 

Kaboose the Moose

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Reminded me of that TinTin story where Professor Calculus helps Captain Haddock overcome his heavy drinking habits by slipping him a bitter tasting drug that makes alcohol unpalatable.

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what no one read The Adventures of TinTin when they were growing up?.

OT:

funguy2121 said:
You don't mean Nitroxoline do you?. That's an antibacterial drug usually used in the treatment of E.coli strains. As far as I can work out though it sounds like the drug you are after is the chemical called Bridion (sugammadex).

Any road, it sounds interesting but the best cure is to not become an alcoholic in the first place.
 

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ostro-whiskey said:
If you cannot stop of your own will, there is no hope for you, since you will most likely relapse even with medication.
Someone missed the point of the thread.