Ambient_Malice said:
Are we forgetting the astounding left wing bigotry of Bob Chipman? His hate filled rants against anyone and everyone who disagreed with him on a wide range of issues? His rants where he called people "subhuman", and pined for the day when all the right wingers are finally going to be swept from power so the glorious era of progress can dawn?
Because I'd hate to think there was some sort of double standard where people can do whatever the hell they want so long as they have the "right" opinions.
Melodrama aside, no. Nobody is forgetting anything. Back when Bob was a contributor, there were several debates about his Twitter behaviour. In those debates, several people who generally agreed with his stance (myself included) thought his actions were unprofessional and that he should either tone it down or take a long sabbatical from Twitter. What's more, several of these debates took place in Th Brovengers chat. Y'know, that place that keeps being called a liberal hive of scum and villainy that has all the mods in its pocket and apparently wants to cleanse the site of anyone who wants to question the contributors.
I just love it when people conflate calling out one person for having certain views, with giving everyone who holds the opposing views a free pass. No, really, it never gets old. ¬.¬
Stewie Plisken said:
I'm sorry, is this really an 8-page-thread about a new contributor's personal politics?
I know, it's almost like politics matters regardless of what the sites management would like to pretend, isn't it?
Stewie Plisken said:
I read the title and I'm pretty sure it's meant in a sarcastic way,
Well spotted.
Stewie Plisken said:
a jab at pro-GamerGate users
It's actually a jab at inconsistencies between the stated intent of the site's management and their actions, as I have explained several times.
Bring GamerGate into this if you must, but it's not actually the centre of all discussion surrounding this website or gaming culture at large, you know.
Stewie Plisken said:
and I'm sitting here wondering what exactly is the OP's point?
Reading beyond the title might give you some idea.
Stewie Plisken said:
To point out you dislike the new guy's personal politics?
I won't deny, that's part of it.
Stewie Plisken said:
Or is it to support the notion you don't want someone whose personal opinions and politics you disagree with working on anything you read? That includes everyone else here, too. How exactly do you expect anyone to hire someone apolitical? What the hell does that even mean? Who doesn't have an opinion and stance on politics?
That is exactly my point, as I have explained several times in this thread! I, personally, do not
want an apolitical escapist, nor do I think such a thing is even possible. However, when reading posts like this...
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/jump/18.870660.21825010
It's clear that the big players on the staff do. So, when they're first move after canning a bunch of people known to hold political views on one side of the fence, is to fill their places with equally outspoken people from the other side of the fence, it raises questions in the vein of "Um, excuse me, but what in the name of Billy Blue Fuck is going on?!"
I'm all for politics. However, I also think that, while not all issues are created equal, the playing field on which they are contested must be. Moves like this look fishy, to say the least.
Stewie Plisken said:
When such politics start seeping heavily into his work, we can talk about this again. Until then, I jot this down as a temper-tantrum.
Well, it would certainly help if we got one word from the management as to what he's actually coming here to do (I mean, have
they even figured it out yet?). At the moment, I'm left with what I can see; and from what I can see, the man's politics
is his work. If he's coming here, fine. Hell, if he wants to be political in his content on the site, that's also fine as far as I'm concerned, because I actually
like debating with people I disagree with, so long as he can actually have that debate with some respect and decency, which he doesn't seem to have shown in any of the examples I and others have pointed out. My point, is that the words and actions of management do not match, and that his personal politics
will be a relevant factor to anyone willing to give him money if he continues expressing himself in this manner, both here and elsewhere.