A public beating... against a child

[Sandytimeman]

I'm not gunna even watch it. First I here about that Chinese girl getting run over and left to die in the road while people walked right by her. Then there is this video and judging from the comments, I don't even want to watch. Seriously wtf is wrong with China?

 

[Faladorian]

China?

The same country with a toddler got hit by a vehicle or two while people just walked on by and ignored it?

Don't forget to mention the one lady who looked both ways then dragged the flattened corpse of the child to the nearby garbage heap and left it there.

Also, to all who say they are losing faith in humanity: if you have any left at all, there's something you don't know.

 

[Random berk]

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshh3BI4708zS3J35O86
I've just been shown this video on Facebook by a friend of mine and... I don't know what to say. What the hell? What did this kid do to deserve this? How can so many people be standing by and watching as this goes on? And are these just normal Chinese people, or has the Chinee government been breeding and releasing some kind of humanoid monster onto the streets? To any escapists who already know of this, what the hell happened here?

I've seen the video before, and I showed it to a Chinese friend who told me that he has seen it before and that the kid was caught stealing, apparently this is not the first time he was caught either. Hope that makes things clear.

It... explains what triggered the event. Frankly though, it doesn't explain how they could do this to such an extent. Someone said on Facebook said it looked like the kids fingers were broken. I didn't notice that in the video, and I'm not about to watch it again, but if thats true then this goes way, way beyond justifiable punishment, and if a culture can allow these things to happen as regularly as some other comments seem to suggest, then that culture has some serious issues. I know, the bystander effect, but seriously, someone could have done, or said something. Goddamn it.

 

[Mavinchious Maximus]

the chinese are more... old school, than countries like the US and UK.

Honestly I've never been against hitting your kid in public as punishment. I know my parental figures werent, and quite frankly i've seen the ***** premadonnas that dont get a nice little swat in the head and how they act when they're grown and I couldnt stand if my kid acted that way.

That's the parents job to punish a child, not a group of assholes.

 

[NinjaDeathSlap]

Well, sadly I'm not surprised. There were stories of a girl getting gangraped and people just stood and watched. I beloved there is a law that states that the more people who are around when something bad happens, the less likely someone will help. Can't remember what the name was

Yeah but, in order for that theory to apply it has to be something minor, like someone getting their bag stolen off them; or there has to be a level of ambiguity, as in "Is that homeless guy seriously hurt or is he just sleeping?" Not when some poor kid is getting the shit ripped out of them in the middle of the street. I can almost see the mentality of not intervening for fear of getting hurt yourself, but to not even call the police? To just stand by and watch like its a sport or something? That has no excuse.

 

[Helmholtz Watson]

Different cultural standards.

Judging them based on Western standards is ridiculous.

Where do you think the term 'savages' originated from? People who were raised in a completely different social environment judging other cultures by their own messed up standards.

when ever a situation like this occurs, and somebody brings up "cultural differences/standards/values" I'm reminded of a quote by a man named Charles James Napier. When he outlawed the practice of Sati (burning widows) people stated cultural differences, and he replied:

"You say that it is your custom to burn widows. Very well. We also have a custom: when men burn a woman alive, we tie a rope around their necks and we hang them. Build your funeral pyre; beside it, my carpenters will build a gallows. You may follow your custom. And then we will follow ours."

So for me, moral relativism doesn't hold up.

 

[Daystar Clarion]

Different cultural standards.

Judging them based on Western standards is ridiculous.

Where do you think the term 'savages' originated from? People who were raised in a completely different social environment judging other cultures by their own messed up standards.

when ever a situation like this occurs, and somebody brings up "cultural differences/standards/values" I'm reminded of a quote by a man named Charles James Napier. When he outlawed the practice of Sati (burning widows) people stated cultural differences, and he replied:

"You say that it is your custom to burn widows. Very well. We also have a custom: when men burn a woman alive, we tie a rope around their necks and we hang them. Build your funeral pyre; beside it, my carpenters will build a gallows. You may follow your custom. And then we will follow ours."

So for me, moral relativism doesn't hold up.

I never agreed with it, but by their cultural standards, it's the correct way to deal with that situation.

If you want to go tell them you disagree with their methods, be my guest.

 

[Daystar Clarion]

Different cultural standards.

Judging them based on Western standards is ridiculous.

*cough*bullshit*cough*

Different cultural standards does not give them license to do something immoral.

Immoral by who's standards?

Again, cultural views vary widely across the globe. Who are you to say they're 'wrong'?

I also think it is abhorrent, but I also recognise that I think it's wrong based on my own standards.

In their minds, I'm sure they believe they're doing the right thing and as long as they're in their own country who permit this type of behaviour, it is 'right' to them.

 

[BiscuitTrouser]

THE FUCK.Lynching we need to bring it back NOW. The fuck... I jsut... Fuck those people, fuck the bystander effect, say what the fuck you want, no excuse. The fucking hell is wrong with people, christ. Now I need something to cheer me up, but after reading that, dont think I have a counter. I hate the -10 faith in humanity bullshit. But this has infact made me loose faith in humanity.. Fucking hell. Seriously ust kill them, even the onlookers, fucking scumthe lot of them, fucking assholes.

I wish i didnt live in a world where i would read this. A torrent of hatred and rage. AND AGREE. DEAR FUCKING GOD. This isnt bad. This isnt horrific. THIS IS FUCKING TENTH CIRCLE OF HELL ETERNAL DAMNATION BAD. NO AMOUNT OF suffering is enough. NONE. A thousand boiling needles to the eye isnt enough pain for these people to know enough suffering for what they have done. Im disgusted, physically disgusted. I feel sick. I really do. These are not people. These are not animals. These are human filth. Human fecaes. They should be killed without mercy like the scum they are.

I seriously cannot find the words to describe just how horrifyingly disgusting that is.
Holy mother of god I fucking hate people so much.

You and me both. I hate THESE people. Fuck losing faith in humanity. Fuck losing faith in normal people like YOU and ME and the dude i quoted above who are regular normal non filth people, lets just fucking execute these THINGS like they deserve and call it a day, i refuse to be branded by any brand that they have also, i refuse to hate the common man, i refuse to hate anyone i see in the street, i will hate, and soley hate THESE people. And any i hear of doing similar things. With a hatred so strong it will create a circle of hell just for them just by the reverberation of my burning fury through the aether.

Maybe if we gather enough we can finally get some justice in the world and make it so these people pay dearly for what they did.

EDIT: I do not support lynching without trial. I just support the death penalty here to the fullest.

 

[SteewpidZombie]

From what I have heard about the video, the little boy stole from a store or vendor or something. So apparently that was what set off the powder keg and gave the more racist/violent people an excuse to attack him.

It sickens me that those people would do that regardless. Compared to stealing, gang beating a small child is something I would punish with a Prison sentence without a second thought.

 

[Random berk]

How can so many people be standing by and watching as this goes on?

The Bystander Effect
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bystander_effect

I'm aware of the bystander effect, I just don't understand how people could do absolutely nothing. Maybe stepping in and clocking the guy on the jaw would be a bad idea, you could turn the crowd against you and be torn apart, but how can anyone justify doing nothing at all, even slipping out of the crowd and calling the police? If I ever find myself in a position to stop something like this, I'd like to think, I hope like hell, that I'm a decent enough person to at least do that much.

 

[Helmholtz Watson]

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshh3BI4708zS3J35O86
I've just been shown this video on Facebook by a friend of mine and... I don't know what to say. What the hell? What did this kid do to deserve this? How can so many people be standing by and watching as this goes on? And are these just normal Chinese people, or has the Chinee government been breeding and releasing some kind of humanoid monster onto the streets? To any escapists who already know of this, what the hell happened here?

I've seen the video before, and I showed it to a Chinese friend who told me that he has seen it before and that the kid was caught stealing, apparently this is not the first time he was caught either. Hope that makes things clear.

It... explains what triggered the event. Frankly though, it doesn't explain how they could do this to such an extent. Someone said on Facebook said it looked like the kids fingers were broken. I didn't notice that in the video, and I'm not about to watch it again, but if thats true then this goes way, way beyond justifiable punishment, and if a culture can allow these things to happen as regularly as some other comments seem to suggest, then that culture has some serious issues. I know, the bystander effect, but seriously, someone could have done, or said something. Goddamn it.

I don't agree with it, I'm just trying to let you know what happened. However, you should look at a website called ChinaSmack.com to understand what Chinese people think because the site has translated video comments on subjects such as these. Apparently people are actually afraid to help in situations like this, because if you do, the Chinese law with punish you also because they hold you responsible for the kid (even if your not related to him). I wish I was making this up, but thats why you hear storys like the little girl being hit by a truck, because if anybody helped her, they would be charged the hospital bills, not the parents.

 

[Jakub324]

I couldn't watch the whole thing because it disgusted me... why would nobody intervene? You can recite that rule about people not helping when others are around all you like but that deserved to be stopped. Pull the kid out of there, dammit!

 

[Daystar Clarion]

Different cultural standards.

Judging them based on Western standards is ridiculous.

*cough*bullshit*cough*

Different cultural standards does not give them license to do something immoral.

Immoral by who's standards?

Again, cultural views vary widely across the globe. Who are you to say they're 'wrong'?

Why does that only apply when the scumbag in question is from another culture? "It's the norm in their culture" does not make it any more OK.

If you are in someone's country, you abide by their laws and respect their cultural expectations.

I fully expect to be treated differently if I stole something here in the UK as opposed to something in the Middle East.

Again, you're judging them based on your own cultural standards of what is right and what is wrong.

 

[Helmholtz Watson]

Different cultural standards.

Judging them based on Western standards is ridiculous.

Where do you think the term 'savages' originated from? People who were raised in a completely different social environment judging other cultures by their own messed up standards.

when ever a situation like this occurs, and somebody brings up "cultural differences/standards/values" I'm reminded of a quote by a man named Charles James Napier. When he outlawed the practice of Sati (burning widows) people stated cultural differences, and he replied:

"You say that it is your custom to burn widows. Very well. We also have a custom: when men burn a woman alive, we tie a rope around their necks and we hang them. Build your funeral pyre; beside it, my carpenters will build a gallows. You may follow your custom. And then we will follow ours."

So for me, moral relativism doesn't hold up.

I never agreed with it, but by their cultural standards, it's the correct way to deal with that situation.

If you want to go tell them you disagree with their methods, be my guest.

I wish I had the political power to do so, I would first help the Tibetan people, because right now China is treating Tibet like how Japan treated Korea in the early twentieth century (forcing them to give up their own language and culture, suffering by the invaders hand, the invading force claiming to be in the best interest of the native people). While I would be at it, I would free the Nobel peace prize winner/his family, and make sure nobody messed with Ai Weiwei.

 

[Random berk]

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshh3BI4708zS3J35O86
I've just been shown this video on Facebook by a friend of mine and... I don't know what to say. What the hell? What did this kid do to deserve this? How can so many people be standing by and watching as this goes on? And are these just normal Chinese people, or has the Chinee government been breeding and releasing some kind of humanoid monster onto the streets? To any escapists who already know of this, what the hell happened here?

I've seen the video before, and I showed it to a Chinese friend who told me that he has seen it before and that the kid was caught stealing, apparently this is not the first time he was caught either. Hope that makes things clear.

It... explains what triggered the event. Frankly though, it doesn't explain how they could do this to such an extent. Someone said on Facebook said it looked like the kids fingers were broken. I didn't notice that in the video, and I'm not about to watch it again, but if thats true then this goes way, way beyond justifiable punishment, and if a culture can allow these things to happen as regularly as some other comments seem to suggest, then that culture has some serious issues. I know, the bystander effect, but seriously, someone could have done, or said something. Goddamn it.

I don't agree with it, I'm just trying to let you know what happened. However, you should look at a website called ChinaSmack.com to understand what Chinese people think because the site has translated video comments on subjects such as these. Apparently people are actually afraid to help in situations like this, because if you do, the Chinese law with punish you also because they hold you responsible for the kid (even if your not related to him). I wish I was making this up, but thats why you hear storys like the little girl being hit by a truck, because if anybody helped her, they would be charged the hospital bills, not the parents.

Ah, of course, the Chinese government, those shining fucking beacons of humanity. They would be one of China's serious issues, wouldn't they? I don't know, its too late in the evening to do this. I'm sure I'll find myself dwelling on these issues though.

 

[Helmholtz Watson]

Different cultural standards.

Judging them based on Western standards is ridiculous.

*cough*bullshit*cough*

Different cultural standards does not give them license to do something immoral.

Immoral by who's standards?

Again, cultural views vary widely across the globe. Who are you to say they're 'wrong'?

Why does that only apply when the scumbag in question is from another culture? "It's the norm in their culture" does not make it any more OK.

If you are in someone's country, you abide by their laws and respect their cultural expectations.

I fully expect to be treated differently if I stole something here in the UK as opposed to something in the Middle East.

Again, you're judging them based on your own cultural standards of what is right and what is wrong.

What about in cases when the issue is multinational (obviously this is not the case with the child), would you still agree that moral relativism should be applied? Hypothetically, what if it was Israeli culture to lie and steal land and it was Palestinian culture to have suicide bombers and use child shields? Would you then feel it was ok as long as it was part of a culture, or would you feel that you have the right to judge them and if possible, prevent the two parties from acting out their "culture"?

 

[Fluffythepoo]

Its cool if 38 people watch a chick get stabbed repeatedly over 15 minutes while calling for help in New York City, but god help us if the chinese make a kid have a bad day, i mean that kid must have had a terrible story to tell at work the next morning

 

[Daystar Clarion]

Different cultural standards.

Judging them based on Western standards is ridiculous.

*cough*bullshit*cough*

Different cultural standards does not give them license to do something immoral.

Immoral by who's standards?

Again, cultural views vary widely across the globe. Who are you to say they're 'wrong'?

Why does that only apply when the scumbag in question is from another culture? "It's the norm in their culture" does not make it any more OK.

If you are in someone's country, you abide by their laws and respect their cultural expectations.

I fully expect to be treated differently if I stole something here in the UK as opposed to something in the Middle East.

Again, you're judging them based on your own cultural standards of what is right and what is wrong.

What about in cases when the issue is multinational (obviously this is not the case with the child), would you still agree that moral relativism should be applied? Hypothetically, what if it was Israeli culture to lie and steal land and it was Palestinian culture to have suicide bombers and use child shields? Would you then feel it was ok as long as it was part of a culture, or would you feel that you have the right to judge them and if possible, prevent the two parties from acting out their "culture"?

As soon as it leaves their borders, then the rules don't apply.

Fucking shoot the bastards.

 

[Daystar Clarion]

Again, you're judging them based on your own cultural standards of what is right and what is wrong.

And this is bad because...?

It's an ad hominem, I don't get to criticize them because what I consider wrong is different from them.

I'm free to criticize my own culture's standards, but not others, why?

You can criticise them all you want.

It doesn't make your view any more or less valid.