A question for non British people

[slackbheep]

If that GM was really being helpful he just would have pointed him to Google and WolframAlpha.

 

[Death_Korps_Kommissar]

Recently, shooting began on a film about Margaret Thatcher starring Meryl Streep as the 'Iron Lady' (if you're interested, Iron Lady is the name of the film). Since Thatcher is now knocking on deaths door I'm guessing that the film is going to be more of a homage than a insult, but Thatcher was truly a woman without humanity or goodness, killing every ounce of community and industry in Britain and sending men out to a war which (in my opinion) could of been avoided.

So here's the question to all you non Brits, if you had heard of Thatcher before now, what was your opinion on her?

EDIT: If you are British express your anger for the ***** having a film made about her

Oh and a lot of people are talking about their reasoning for hating Thatcher, here's mine I was born 4 years after she left office, my family on my fathers side were both coal miners and industrial workers. When I go up North to see them it feels like something's been lost, it's just painful to see.

I'm Irish, i'll see if you can guess ;P

 

[catalyst8]

I'm Irish, i'll see if you can guess ;P

Give me a hand & perhaps we can murder the *****.

 

[Death_Korps_Kommissar]

I'm Irish, i'll see if you can guess ;P

Give me a hand & perhaps we can murder the *****.

Well she's well known over here due to the way she dealt with the IRA. Mostly letting hunger strikers die. Since a lot of stupid people down south here still support the IRA they're like Fuck thatcher!
But i don't like her for her political position and being an evil *****.
All I want is Frankie Boyle to be head of the funeral.

 

[A Sense Of Decorum]

I'm British, but i'm only 18 and fantastically ignorant of political history, although my mother did regail me with stories of how the heartless demon from the bowels of beelzebub himself destroyed entire communities by just, closing the mines. Just like that.
Apparently she also took lunchtime milk away from school children *shrugs* I don't know if that's a crime punishable by being quartered and strung or whatnot but it seemed to annoy my mum fairly enormously.

I quote Jo Brand "'The Lady Thatcher', It sounds like a device for removing pubic hair.'

Back to OT: No, I don't like Thatcher, but i'm probably bangwaggoning slightly on my elders' opinions here, but If I knew more, I probably STILL wouldn't like her much, if at all.

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

Find a list of shows that paint Thatcher in a good light.

Now, a list of shows that paint Thatcher in a bad light.

Any source will do.

Why does the latter TOWER over the former? Especially when the former is usually from people who didn't live under her?

By The Way: Section 28 is one of hers:

a local authority "shall not intentionally promote homosexuality or publish material with the intention of promoting homosexuality" or "promote the teaching in any maintained school of the acceptability of homosexuality as a pretended family relationship".

Tough but fair, you would say?

 

[Dwarfman]

thatcher, thatcher. that is very familiar sounding name. was she in a pink floyd song at any point? i dont even know.

The album is The Final Cut. Many of the songs focus on the Falklands conflict.

 

[Ren3004]

I had heard of her, but to be honest... I had no idea she was generally hated in Britain.

 

[Zizzousa]

FAIL.

 

[Zizzousa]

***** was friends with Pinochet. As in super evil Chilean dictator.

Oh and apart from that, yeah, basically destroyed my home county, managed to render both of my parents unemployed within the same three month period, etc, as well as did awesome things like repeatedly using Scotland as guinea pig for risky policies (poll tax being the most memorable) because, well, let's face it, the people up there just aren't important like the English ones are because there's only 5 million of them.

I get what she was trying to do, but if there's a hell, I swear to God she's going there. It's going to be weird when she dies though...are we meant to mourn someone everyone hated?

Solidarity I may not be Scottish but I am welsh and we have been under the sasanack boot for 800 years. I mean at least you've got a politically separate parliament, we've only got an assembly.

I find the scottish, welsh, irish and any other nationalists quite comical. Do you really think Britain as a whole will be a powerful nation in say 100 years? Not if it stays as it is, and if Scotland and/or Wales gain independence they are going to slide quite far in a lot shorter time than that.

I'm not a nationalist either, but arrogance like yours sometimes makes me want to be. It would be really, really nice if the English would stop looking down on Scotland - to whom do you think all that oil revenue really belongs? - and recognise that we're virtually the same. The only reason the SNP are so powerful these days is because a lot of Scottish people just find English views and arrogance offensive. I'm into economics, though, so I'd rather we all stayed together.

And, yes, we're just after a bit of respect. We have our parliament and assemblies because when you add together all of the potential votes in Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland the total is less than the total number of potential votes in England. The Tories didn't make an effort in any of the home countries because they didn't have to/it would have been pointless - hence why Scotland came up bright red while England turned slowly blue. The Tories will never again win an election in either Wales or Scotland because she fucked both countries over so royally (the evidence is everywhere you look, and our parents and teachers tell us just who was responsible - Thatcher) and yet we have to live under a Tory government; that fact alone has been a massive help to the SNP and Plaid Cymru, who are finding more and more votes from those who are not happy with having to live with Thatcherite Cameron in Downing St.

OT: Watched a little of the news this morning, about Osborne and Cameron supposedly reigning in the banks while the Independent broke the story that over 50% of their financial donations came from the City of London. The song remains the same...

 

[Lord Kloo]

She did good mostly, the war in the Falklands was carried out well and for a good cause unlike some people's wars (looking at you Blair (Iraq)) and also stopped propping up failing industries, stopped those dastardly unions that had too much power over policy..

True the working class was worse off but hey its the working class, its always going to be worse off, the day they have good lives is the day they move into the middle class..

 

[BadassCyborg]

This woman is evil incarnate.

 

[Master Kuja]

Brit, but she was before my time, though from what I know of her she was a cold hearted *****.
However, the one thing I will give her credit for is the Falklands War, it wasn't a pointless war at all and people who say that piss me the fuck off.

We were defending a colony of people who willingly wanted to declare themselves British and did not want to be under Argentinian rule, that is not pointless.

Aside from that, fuck her, she's the definition of evil.

 

[Zizzousa]

She did good mostly, the war in the Falklands was carried out well and for a good cause unlike some people's wars (looking at you Blair (Iraq)) and also stopped propping up failing industries, stopped those dastardly unions that had too much power over policy..

True the working class was worse off but hey its the working class, its always going to be worse off, the day they have good lives is the day they move into the middle class..

Srsly? It would take me all day to explain why the Falklands was an easier campaign than Iraq. And as for the wisdom of going in the first place, stop to consider exactly what the Bush administration must have been threatening Blair with to make him agree. The 'missing dimension' was in full swing.

The working class can't move into the middle class if they don't have jobs. Thatcher made being a working class person significantly more unpleasant than it had to be.

 

[beniki]

Recently, shooting began on a film about Margaret Thatcher starring Meryl Streep as the 'Iron Lady' (if you're interested, Iron Lady is the name of the film). Since Thatcher is now knocking on deaths door I'm guessing that the film is going to be more of a homage than a insult, but Thatcher was truly a woman without humanity or goodness, killing every ounce of community and industry in Britain and sending men out to a war which (in my opinion) could of been avoided.

So here's the question to all you non Brits, if you had heard of Thatcher before now, what was your opinion on her?

EDIT: If you are British express your anger for the ***** having a film made about her

Oh and a lot of people are talking about their reasoning for hating Thatcher, here's mine I was born 4 years after she left office, my family on my fathers side were both coal miners and industrial workers. When I go up North to see them it feels like something's been lost, it's just painful to see.

I would argue that she broke the back of the worker's unions that were crippling Britain. And yes, it's true that I'm technically Middle class and from the South, but my father came from a Welsh coal mine family, and my mother was the daughter of a travelling salesman from the Midlands. We're a jumped up lower class family, and probably wouldn't be in the position we are now if Baroness Thatcher easing up the financial sector regulation.

Not that it wasn't tragic that so many mines went under, and that a lot of people went through some hard times. You have to admit though, the North is looking a good deal better these days, and no kid has to face the certainty of his future disappearing down the mine shafts.

And you have to give her some respect as the first female Prime Minister. And the fact she has bigger balls than any man alive.

 

[dex-dex]

being part of the commonwealth, I have heard of her and was she not the first female prime minster?
but usually she is just in stand up jokes whenever I hear about her.

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

Way to spot a Thatcher supporter: "Well, Blair/Brown did this wrong". Yeah, I grew up with her blaming Labour and the Unions, as she released the mentally ill onto the streets and crushed the spirit of the community.

I've heard down in London that she did some good things. I've heard Boris has done some good things down there as well.

Don't see much of it up here...100 miles away. Further North, it just gets worse. Or further West.

 

[jigilojoe]

(I <3 Simon Darby and Griffin)

I have few things I hate, facists are one. They have nothing to do with British politics and a lot to do with keeping our age old tradition of xenophobia alive, thankfully the BNP have now gone bankrupt, that's right, they couldn't keep a party of 40 racists going, if they were in charge of the country we'd long be fallen to dust.

I think you need to research the British National Party a hell of a lot before you say that they have anything to do with British politics. They're evil.

 

[Karilas]

thatcher, thatcher. that is very familiar sounding name. was she in a pink floyd song at any point? i dont even know.

No, she played Bob Geldof in "The Wall," but she was never actually in Pink Floyd.

EDIT -

Sorry, thought I was being funny, turns out I need to learn to read.

I can imagine the Floyd giving the ol' battleaxe a mention, certainly the right era, and they did like to pick up on the depressing aspects of life.

 

[aenimau5]

I'm a too young to have been alive when she was in power but i still consider her evil because #1 she was a tory and #2 I can't say the word thatcher in my house without something being dropped/thrown/shouted.