A sad day for humanity or at least the public image of these women.

[CrazyGirl17]

So... people are joking about the fact that a guy had his dick cut off? Something tells me if that he did this sort of thing to a woman they would be spouting a different tune...

Of course, I believe that this sort of castration would be better suited to sexual offenders and not as the result of some petty argument, so...

 

[aei_haruko]

Now I'm sure that some of you have heard about the Catherine Kieu incident. And if you don't then it goes a little like this: Catherine Kieu cut off her husbands dick after they had an argument. Her husband filed for divorce in May and they had a fight about friends staying over the day prior to the whole dick cutting. She complained that friends of his were staying in the house he owned, so she drugged his food, tied him to their bed, cut of his dick and just to add insult to injury she threw it in the garbage disposal.


Now a few days later on "The Talk" the women that hosted the show that day talked about she was in the right for cutting off her mans dick and even laughed about the whole thing. Not only is it disgusting but quite frankly something that should not be broadcast on television.

I know that the world is a harsh place and that life is no yellow brick road, but this is shit that should not be fucking happening. I find it funny how humanity has prospered for so long with shit like this going. I would have expected us all to have killed each other long ago.

Now Escapists, what is your opinion on the matter, and do you think that women on "The Talk" should be punished in some way, no matter how major or minor.[footnote]And before someone goes on a rant about freedom of speech I only have one thing to say, is common decency not a little more important than freedom of speech.[/footnote]

this is frankly disgusting. Why on Earth are these women not beig repremanded for this? This is frankly horrible. If I being a male went and hit my girlfriend " because she deserved it" ( which I'd never do) then I'd be dragged throught the mud, and I'd be considered slime, yet these women are laughing about it, and saying he deserved it. For what? What did he do? He simply filed for divorce, and this woman torutured him, what awful women these ones are, thank you for telling me about this, because this is just sickening

 

[Merkavar]

i do think that the people on the show should be punished. like show cancelled or something. just imagine how fast this show would be cancelled if it was a group of men sitting around laughing, making jokes about so guy cutting of the breats of his wife.

 

[Epona]

Freedom of Speech doesn't protect them from criticism from the general public. Freedom of Speech only protects them from legal action being take against them.

So, yes, people should protest and send emails to CBS to ensure these women are unemployed in short order.

I never said you did not have the right to criticize them, what I said was that you do not have the right to silence them. By trying to get them fired you're basically attempting to silence their opinions because they offended you. In contrast with a lot of the problem present nowadays, freedom of speech is truly a black and white issue. You either allow everyone to state their opinion without action being taken against them or you silence those who you believe have offended you. That's what you're trying to do. You're trying to silence those women because they offended you with their statements.

Let me put it another way.

Freedom of Speech only protects them from legal actions being taken against them. Freedom of Speech does not protect them from the consequences of their actions. If you go to work and start spreading gender bias, your boss can and will fire you if customers begin to complain because at work, freedom of speech doesn't apply.

This is no different.

 

[AndyFromMonday]

Freedom of Speech only protects them from legal actions being taken against them. Freedom of Speech does not protect them from the consequences of their actions. If you go to work and start spreading gender bias, your boss can and will fire you if customers begin to complain because at work, freedom of speech doesn't apply.

This is no different.

Yes it is. She had an opinion and because you were offended you are now trying to take away her only way to share that opinion. The same goes for your boss example.

 

[The_Graff]

the ***** sould be put up against a wall and offered a blindfold and cigarette. if only for the concern of public safety. if she is capable and happy with this then what will she do the next time she gtscut off in traffic? or denied a loan? or has someone look at he in a way she might just interpret as 'slightly unfriendly'? shes a danger and should be dealt with. also the show is disgusting etc etc.

 

[Doctor Glocktor]

Freedom of Speech doesn't protect them from criticism from the general public. Freedom of Speech only protects them from legal action being take against them.

So, yes, people should protest and send emails to CBS to ensure these women are unemployed in short order.

I never said you did not have the right to criticize them, what I said was that you do not have the right to silence them. By trying to get them fired you're basically attempting to silence their opinions because they offended you. In contrast with a lot of the problem present nowadays, freedom of speech is truly a black and white issue. You either allow everyone to state their opinion without action being taken against them or you silence those who you believe have offended you. That's what you're trying to do. You're trying to silence those women because they offended you with their statements.

I thought it was less about offense and more about trying to get back at these women - since legally you can destroy anyone verbally - for humiliating this poor man on tv.

 

[Epona]

Freedom of Speech only protects them from legal actions being taken against them. Freedom of Speech does not protect them from the consequences of their actions. If you go to work and start spreading gender bias, your boss can and will fire you if customers begin to complain because at work, freedom of speech doesn't apply.

This is no different.

Yes it is. She had an opinion and because you were offended you are now trying to take away her only way to share that opinion. The same goes for your boss example.

I think you need a better understanding of the Freedom of Speech.

 

[SenseOfTumour]

Freedom of Speech only protects them from legal actions being taken against them. Freedom of Speech does not protect them from the consequences of their actions. If you go to work and start spreading gender bias, your boss can and will fire you if customers begin to complain because at work, freedom of speech doesn't apply.

This is no different.

Yes it is. She had an opinion and because you were offended you are now trying to take away her only way to share that opinion. The same goes for your boss example.

No, I'd suggest we're hoping she gets her ability to be paid to spout said opinion to millions taken away .

Otherwise I'm sure the WBC would be demanding some prime time slots to tell everyone their opinion too.

She can still say that opinion to friends and anyone who'll listen, however, having a public forum like a TV show comes with more responsibilities. I might be a cynic, but I truly still believe most people are at heart reasonably decent, and evacuating this kinda shite onto the airwaves devalues TV and everyone who hears or watches it. Most women who love their partner will have, for a moment, thought about what happened and wondered what it'd take to drive them to do that. For that moment humanity lost a few more points.

When we have people calling for Frankie Boyle to be fired from Mock the Week because he said an Olympic Athlete had a big nose, I think it's pretty fair to criticise this coven of harpies. They pretty much agreed it's sort of 'fine' to cut your man's dick off if he goes off you. There was one who looked a bit like Darlene from Roseanna might look after all these years, who was the only one who seemed remotely uncomfortable about going 'woo - lets all go on a dick lopping frenzy!'.

EDIT: rather terribly stopped typing, when I meant to say the 'bolded bit' above. Edited it like this so I don't make the quoters look strange, for my own error.

 

[templargunman]

[footnote]And before someone goes on a rant about freedom of speech I only have one thing to say, is common decency not a little more important than freedom of speech.[/footnote]

No it's not, the idea that you want to "punish" people for what they said is very strange. Yes, the woman should be punished for cutting off her husband's dick. No, the women of The Talk shouldn't. Do you actually think that we should punish people for saying something you disagree with? Is this actually what you think? I understand you are afraid of your dick getting cut off and assume if the women all rise up together and talk about cutting dicks off, there will be a dick-capitation revolution. Most people aren't that sexist, and can understand that Catherine Kieu was crazy. The women of The Talk are already probably in trouble for making jokes (although they shouldn't be because joking about violence has become annoyingly taboo in our culture).

 

[SenseOfTumour]

In other news, America's new anti drug campaign launches:

close up of Ozzy's bewildered face, and the scary voiceover -

'Don't do drugs, or you might marry someone like Sharon Osbourne!'

 

[Epona]

Freedom of Speech doesn't protect them from criticism from the general public. Freedom of Speech only protects them from legal action being take against them.

So, yes, people should protest and send emails to CBS to ensure these women are unemployed in short order.

I never said you did not have the right to criticize them, what I said was that you do not have the right to silence them. By trying to get them fired you're basically attempting to silence their opinions because they offended you. In contrast with a lot of the problem present nowadays, freedom of speech is truly a black and white issue. You either allow everyone to state their opinion without action being taken against them or you silence those who you believe have offended you. That's what you're trying to do. You're trying to silence those women because they offended you with their statements.

I thought it was less about offense and more about trying to get back at these women - since legally you can destroy anyone verbally - for humiliating this poor man on tv.

Well no, you can't destroy anyone verbally, if what you say is false, it's slander.

This is about what the public considers inappropriate behavior on television. The public has every right to protest and if it costs them their jobs, so be it but even if it doesn't it sends the message to the rest of the media that this behavior is unacceptable.

 

[let's rock]

WELCOME TO THE REAL WORLD. Life is like this, and saddly, society thinks this is ok (it wasn't appropriate though). And free speach is something that I stabbed my friend in the arm over, so no, I think no punishment. But come on, who the hell watches these shows anyways? The damage was minimal

 

[AndyFromMonday]

No, I'd suggest we're hoping she gets her ability to be paid to spout said opinion to millions

So she should keep her job and get payed as long as her opinion conforms with your ideas of morality? Sorry, that's not freedom of speech.

I think you need a better understanding of the Freedom of Speech.

I don't believe I do.

 

[Epona]

No, I'd suggest we're hoping she gets her ability to be paid to spout said opinion to millions

So she should keep her job and get payed as long as her opinion conforms with your ideas of morality? Sorry, that's not freedom of speech.

I think you need a better understanding of the Freedom of Speech.

I don't believe I do.

Yes you do. People are protesting this behavior via emails to CBS and even via forums like this. Are laws being broken? No.

You can say you don't agree with us judging them based on their remarks but you can't say we are violating the Freedom of Speech.

Once again (because you don't get it). Freedom of Speech only protects people from legal consequences. Do you dispute this and if so, in what way?

 

[AngryBritishAce]

This makes me want to puke. I wish I never clicked on it, this just disgusts me so much.

 

[Julianking93]

Oh yeah, I heard about this from mum a few days ago.
Really fucked up and I figured he cheated on her or something but... simply an argument? What the hell is wrong with this woman?

Premeditated as well, you say? Alright, this woman needs to go to jail.

And now these annoying women are laughing about it? Wonderful. Fucking wonderful.

This is the bullshit double standard that goes with gender and crime. It's sick to have anything like this done to either gender but to be laughing about it? What is wrong with everyone? I imagine it has something to do with the public image of... well a dick and typically that spawns some form of laughter but this isn't a joke; this woman is fucking crazy and of course, everyone's gonna say she was in the right because her man is the crazy one.

Bullshit. I had this conversation with someone the other day how seemingly, no matter what the crime, the woman is always assumed innocent and the man, always guilty.
It's innocent until proven guilty, not the other way around. Why is there such sympathy for gender when both are capable of the same acts?
But more on topic... well there isn't much else to say. This woman is disgusting and needs to be put in jail. I'd want to see how those stupid women react to a story of a man mutilating a woman's genitalia. Not so fucking funny now, is it?

snippy

Also, this has no baring on the topic at hand, but just wanted to say, awesome avatar

 

[AndyFromMonday]

Yes you do. People are protesting this behavior via emails to CBS and even via forums like this. Are laws being broken? No.

Protesting is one thing. Attempting to get someone fired is another. You were offended by her opinion and you're trying to get her fired. If you hadn't been offended you wouldn't have done this. In fact, you would have probably called those who would have tried to get her fired idiots.

Once again (because you don't get it). Freedom of Speech only protects people from legal consequences. Do you dispute this and if so, in what way?

We're not talking about freedom of speech as a law, we're talking about it as a human right.

 

[Epona]

Yes you do. People are protesting this behavior via emails to CBS and even via forums like this. Are laws being broken? No.

Protesting is one thing. Attempting to get someone fired is another. You were offended by her opinion and you're trying to get her fired. If you hadn't been offended you wouldn't have done this. In fact, you would have probably called those who would have tried to get her fired idiots.

Once again (because you don't get it). Freedom of Speech only protects people from legal consequences. Do you dispute this and if so, in what way?

We're not talking about freedom of speech as a law, we're talking about it as a human right.

Oh for fuck sake!

THE PROTESTING IS DESIGNED TO GET THEM FIRED SO YOU CAN'T SAY PROTESTING IS FINE AND THEN COMPLAIN ABOUT THE PREFERRED RESULTS OF THAT PROTESTING!


Am I offended because these people think that cutting a mans penis off and putting it in the garbage disposal is funny? YES! Why the hell aren't you?

So you want to redefine Freedom of Speech to your liking. Go ahead but leave me out of it.

One more thing, there has to be consequences for hate speech or it would be everywhere and society would be worse off than it already is.