A sad day for humanity or at least the public image of these women.

[katsumoto03]

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[footnote]And before someone goes on a rant about freedom of speech I only have one thing to say, is common decency not a little more important than freedom of speech.[/footnote]

Not in the fucking slightest.

Dumb bitches are dumb. This is pretty sick but they still have the right to be complete fucknuts.

 

[SenseOfTumour]

I'm a little torn about this, part of me wants to sort of defend it as I think all humour should be fine, whether it offends or not.

However, without having seen the show or knowing anything about it, I'm going to guess it was packed to the rafters with manhaters who whooped, clapped and cheered the line. Part of me is being lazy and assumes it's a US version of 'Loose Women' where about 4 middle aged harpies ***** about stuff and blame men for everything while at the same time transparently lusting after any male guests who look nice.

Now for UK escapists, lets do a parallel universe, where Frankie Boyle is still on Mock the Week and does an edgy line about sticking a power drill up Katie Price to stop any more kids falling out.

While the 'joke' is about as offensive, you can bet the audience would laugh, but, reservedly, the reaction you'd get from a rape joke or gag about a recently deceased celeb.

For example, when the Top Gear guy nearly died in a racing stunt, and was still in hospital, Boyle made a joke about a 'safe driving advert' that showed him in a hospital bed trying to remember his wedding day. There were some sharp intakes of breath and a lot of 'oooh that's a bit far'. There were no 'ha ha, yes I hope he dies too'.

To me, it's the audience reaction that makes it wrong, and the knowledge of the reaction is what made that woman decide it'd be fine to say it.

I'm fine with the male gender constantly being the braindead, incompetent sexcrazed yet incapable halfwit that is depicted on most TV ads, sitcoms, etc. After all, we've had it our way for a long, long time, in the battle of the sexes.

However, when they try to push that to 'men are so evil that we should be allowed to violently mutilate them' it's too far.

In short, I'm not daft enough to demand equality for men, we've had it our way for far too long and it's fair that women get a few perks now. What's wrong is to decide nothing is taboo so long as it's anti men.

Just as an aside, why do these man hating shows, magazines etc ***** about men for half the time and spend the other half showing you what you HAVE to do, if you're ever going to get Mr Right?

 

[Epona]

These women make me ashamed of being a woman. >.<
And this Catherine belongs in a mental institution.
The only situation I can think of where cutting off a man's penis is justified,
is if the guy is a rapist. And even then only if he does it more than once, or rapes children.

It is never justified.

 

[SenseOfTumour]

I guess I should clarify, if a female stand up did that sort of material to a 'Mock the Week' or 'Coedy Central Presents...' style audience, I'd imagine she'd get the kind of reserved response I referred to above. Laughs, but with a covering of 'ooh I'm not sure I should have laughed at that.'

It's not so much what she said, but how it was said and who it was said to. It's almost back to stand up comedians doing 'ironic' sexism or racism. Pushing the boundaries is fine when you're playing with an audience who know you don't mean it. Doing racist material to the KKK however, you're going to end up just cheered and a standing ovation, but few laughs.

Al Murray has commented that he's in the awkward situation which his sexist, racist, 'pub landlord (bar owner for the US types here) character, who's constantly rude to foriegners and women. He realises that most people 'get it' but he knows there's always a minority who are going 'yeah, Al, tell them dirty frenchies to go home, and tell the birds to get back in the kitchen!'

 

[Jegsimmons]

cutting off a mans dick is attempted murder, torture, ect. he should have shot her in head, no one would blame him..at least i wouldnt. hell id be his lawyer.

then id put the talk show hosts away for being dangerously stupid.

 

[Elfgore]

I'm pretty sure if a guy like cut off his wifes boobs the talk would not be laughing about it. They would say its a insult to women. But yes they should be punished

 

[Epona]

I guess I should clarify, if a female stand up did that sort of material to a 'Mock the Week' or 'Coedy Central Presents...' style audience, I'd imagine she'd get the kind of reserved response I referred to above. Laughs, but with a covering of 'ooh I'm not sure I should have laughed at that.'

It's not so much what she said, but how it was said and who it was said to. It's almost back to stand up comedians doing 'ironic' sexism or racism. Pushing the boundaries is fine when you're playing with an audience who know you don't mean it. Doing racist material to the KKK however, you're going to end up just cheered and a standing ovation, but few laughs.

Al Murray has commented that he's in the awkward situation which his sexist, racist, 'pub landlord (bar owner for the US types here) character, who's constantly rude to foriegners and women. He realises that most people 'get it' but he knows there's always a minority who are going 'yeah, Al, tell them dirty frenchies to go home, and tell the birds to get back in the kitchen!'

This isn't a comedy show and these people weren't responding to a joke. This is a show where serious topics are discussed and the audience (and hosts) responded the way they did because deep down, they see cutting off penises as some sort of feminist victory.

Imagine a show with men sitting around a table and the discussion of a real news event came up involving the severe sexual mutilation of a woman, do you really think the hosts and the audience would cheer like this audience did? If they did cheer, no one would defend them? Would you?

This is about a much bigger problem. Society see violence against men as funny and sometimes even a step forward (for the feminist types) but violence against women is never funny and sexual mutilation is never justified.

 

[electric_warrior]

If men joked around about the mutilation of a women's genitalia, there'd be outcry about misogyny and whatnot.

But... in fairness, it does seem to be Sharon Osbourne. The others do seem to appreciate the horror and seriousness of it, but she's just a **** and always has been.

I hope someone makes her see the error of her cuntiness one day

 

[putowtin]

the talk is like the american version of the UK's Loose Women (bunch of women sit around and ***** about men)

We can say that this is shocking (not only the act but the way it was discussed) but until people stop watching these shows and switch off, they will still polute the airways.

 

[Epona]

If men joked around about the mutilation of a women's genitalia, there'd be outcry about misogyny and whatnot.

But... in fairness, it does seem to be Sharon Osbourne. The others do seem to appreciate the horror and seriousness of it, but she's just a **** and always has been.

I hope someone makes her see the error of her cuntiness one day

Really because the host who introduced the story couldn't stop laughing long enough to spit it out, the audience couldn't stop laughing and one lady said "'That'll teach him!"

It wasn't just Sharon though she was the worst.

 

[SenseOfTumour]

I guess I should clarify, if a female stand up did that sort of material to a 'Mock the Week' or 'Coedy Central Presents...' style audience, I'd imagine she'd get the kind of reserved response I referred to above. Laughs, but with a covering of 'ooh I'm not sure I should have laughed at that.'

It's not so much what she said, but how it was said and who it was said to. It's almost back to stand up comedians doing 'ironic' sexism or racism. Pushing the boundaries is fine when you're playing with an audience who know you don't mean it. Doing racist material to the KKK however, you're going to end up just cheered and a standing ovation, but few laughs.

Al Murray has commented that he's in the awkward situation which his sexist, racist, 'pub landlord (bar owner for the US types here) character, who's constantly rude to foriegners and women. He realises that most people 'get it' but he knows there's always a minority who are going 'yeah, Al, tell them dirty frenchies to go home, and tell the birds to get back in the kitchen!'

This isn't a comedy show and these people weren't responding to a joke. This is a show where serious topics are discussed and the audience (and hosts) responded the way they did because deep down, they see cutting off penises as some sort of feminist victory.

Imagine a show with men sitting around a table and the discussion of a real news event came up involving the severe sexual mutilation of a woman, do you really think the hosts and the audience would cheer like this audience did? If they did cheer, no one would defend them? Would you?

This is about a much bigger problem. Society see violence against men as funny and sometimes even a step forward (for the feminist types) but violence against women is never funny and sexual mutilation is never justified.

I'm entirely in agreement with you, in case it reads differently. I'm more saying that if it had been meant as a bad taste joke, I'd be a lot more likely to defend it, but I sense it was said purely as 'come on girls in the audience and at home, lets hate men some more, aren't they all bastards who are all potential rapists anyway? Ooh look, Orlando Bloom, isn't he sexy?'

I'd stand up for female led media a lot more if it didn't all seem to subscribe to the rule of 'all men are evil , stupid potential rapists, but here's 50 ways to get and keep a man to make your life complete, remember you've failed in life unless you have a man! Oh and don't forget to hate him as soon as you're married to him.'

Unfortunately, Sharon will now see comments like 'Sharon oughta have her flaps cut off and stuffed in her mouth to shut her up' and it just reinforces her idea that men are all on the very edge of being violent towards women, only held back from repeatedly murdering anything with tits by getting a blowjob once a month.

It also again reinforces the idea that violence against men is acceptable, yet, if you're attacked by a woman with a knife and you punch her in the face to avoid getting stabbed, you're an evil thug who beats women. I'm not saying I'd try to punch a woman in the face who attacked me, I'm just stating I'd damn well try to stop them killing me and wouldn't worry too much if it was the face that my fist found, in that situation. Trying to kill me is where my chivalrous nature fades somewhat.

 

[Jegsimmons]

That guy should just sue them for public humiliation or sexual harassment even. This is just disgusting. So much for being civilized. Castrating someone (which, unless the man was raping or physically beating the woman, is not "in the right" at all) then laughing at it publicly in a show is just disgusting.

thats a great idea, get so much money out of CBS he could get just get a new one thats like 8 times as long and be a fucking pimp. that would show both his ex-wife and those bitches on the talk.

also, is this just a stupider version of the view? if that was possible?

 

[Cheezeypoofs]

It's all fun and games until it's "Wabbit" season.

On a side note I'm now selling indestructible chastity belts, only $7.95. Order in the next 10 minutes and I'll throw in an extra one! Available in 3 different sizes!

*$95 shipping and handling*

 

[Epona]

I guess I should clarify, if a female stand up did that sort of material to a 'Mock the Week' or 'Coedy Central Presents...' style audience, I'd imagine she'd get the kind of reserved response I referred to above. Laughs, but with a covering of 'ooh I'm not sure I should have laughed at that.'

It's not so much what she said, but how it was said and who it was said to. It's almost back to stand up comedians doing 'ironic' sexism or racism. Pushing the boundaries is fine when you're playing with an audience who know you don't mean it. Doing racist material to the KKK however, you're going to end up just cheered and a standing ovation, but few laughs.

Al Murray has commented that he's in the awkward situation which his sexist, racist, 'pub landlord (bar owner for the US types here) character, who's constantly rude to foriegners and women. He realises that most people 'get it' but he knows there's always a minority who are going 'yeah, Al, tell them dirty frenchies to go home, and tell the birds to get back in the kitchen!'

This isn't a comedy show and these people weren't responding to a joke. This is a show where serious topics are discussed and the audience (and hosts) responded the way they did because deep down, they see cutting off penises as some sort of feminist victory.

Imagine a show with men sitting around a table and the discussion of a real news event came up involving the severe sexual mutilation of a woman, do you really think the hosts and the audience would cheer like this audience did? If they did cheer, no one would defend them? Would you?

This is about a much bigger problem. Society see violence against men as funny and sometimes even a step forward (for the feminist types) but violence against women is never funny and sexual mutilation is never justified.

I'm entirely in agreement with you, in case it reads differently. I'm more saying that if it had been meant as a bad taste joke, I'd be a lot more likely to defend it, but I sense it was said purely as 'come on girls in the audience and at home, lets hate men some more, aren't they all bastards who are all potential rapists anyway? Ooh look, Orlando Bloom, isn't he sexy?'

I'd stand up for female led media a lot more if it didn't all seem to subscribe to the rule of 'all men are evil , stupid potential rapists, but here's 50 ways to get and keep a man to make your life complete, remember you've failed in life unless you have a man! Oh and don't forget to hate him as soon as you're married to him.'

Women have been taught for the last few decades not to trust men and that men are the enemy. It is a shame but this is the result of that kind of attitude.

 

[Vault Girl]

Now I'm sure that some of you have heard about the Catherine Kieu incident. And if you don't then it goes a little like this: Catherine Kieu cut off her husbands dick after they had an argument. Her husband filed for divorce in May and they had a fight about friends staying over the day prior to the whole dick cutting. She complained that friends of his were staying in the house he owned, so she drugged his food, tied him to their bed, cut of his dick and just to add insult to injury she threw it in the garbage disposal.


Now a few days later on "The Talk" the women that hosted the show that day talked about she was in the right for cutting off her mans dick and even laughed about the whole thing. Not only is it disgusting but quite frankly something that should not be broadcast on television.

I know that the world is a harsh place and that life is no yellow brick road, but this is shit that should not be fucking happening. I find it funny how humanity has prospered for so long with shit like this going. I would have expected us all to have killed each other long ago.

Now Escapists, what is your opinion on the matter, and do you think that women on "The Talk" should be punished in some way, no matter how major or minor.[footnote]And before someone goes on a rant about freedom of speech I only have one thing to say, is common decency not a little more important than freedom of speech.[/footnote]

Your quite right to say that freedom of speech is everyone's right, but there is a little thing called moderation. just because we can talk freely and wantonly about thinks doesn't necessarily mean we should.

This isn't a funny topic, and i don't understand why those women (I'm British but i know what kind of show your talking about) feel it is acceptable to laugh about something that is so barbaric and painful.

I would understand better why they would turn it in to a joke is the guy had cheated, or done something bad, in terms of a joke.


Poor guy, This sort of shows sexism against Men in this day and age, where Modern semi-popular women laugh at a guy getting mutilated cus his wife was pissed off at him. I wouldn't suppose they thought it would be funny if a guy slapped them for not being in the kitchen and everyone laughed at that. What a blatant use of double standards.

 

[Robert Ewing]

I think this sort of stuff is sick, shouldn't happen to anyone.

But from what I've seen on the reports of these attacks is truely shocking, and goes as follows.

The male presenters, show genuine concern for the victim.

The female presenters, laugh, make fun of, and accuse the victim of deserving it. It's almost as if it's like "HA, I am a highly successful woman that has made it into the MANS world of TV journalism, finally the men get their just deserts! Now you know how WE felt!"

To me, the female reaction is equal to saay, "This man is now disabled" "Hahaha, funny stuff."

Makes me angry at people.

 

[SirAroun]

Dude... what the fuck?

Holy shit that is just... fuck man I don't even know. I hope the girl gets fucking destroyed in the courts. You get pissed friends staying over(or whatever) so you cut off his dick? Holy shit that's messed up.

And then there's those women are essentially joking about the whole thing. And some Women are actually defending this person.

What. The. Fuck.

This is what we call reverse sexism. I have never liked shows that are all about "what men like" or "what women like", so I guess all I have to say is that the people from any of these kinds of shows can go to HELL.

there is no such thing as reverse sexism
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sexism
?noun
1.
attitudes or behavior based on traditional stereotypes of sexual roles.
2.
discrimination or devaluation based on a person's sex, as in restricted job opportunities
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this was plain old sexism mix with cuntness and the totally defilement of feminism's gender equality ideals

 

[Charisma]

Imagine what would happen if a man drugged his wife, tied her up, and sliced off her breasts or cut out her vagina.

And the ***** women praising the act don't want gender equality, they want to be treated like princesses. Fuck them.

Equal treatment, not special treatment.

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

the talk is like the american version of the UK's Loose Women (bunch of women sit around and ***** about men)

Mid morning programmes in any of the "civilized" nations consist of overpaid know-nothings that are paid to be outraged about something, and laugh at things that are different.

Years ago, we would have the same thing about how black people want rights.

Decades before, about how preposterous it would be for women to have rights.

It never changes. Just ignorant people spreading their bigotry.

Remember, we've already had Alan Titchmarsh condemning games, Jeremy Kyle...just being Jeremy Kyle, Glenn Beck being... Glenn Beck, Anne Diamond...My Little Ponies > Terrorism... it just goes on and on.

And it's not just television

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