A Town Called Mercy

Flight

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8-Bit_Jack said:
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8-Bit_Jack said:
Wow, Susan. You are so impressively wrong.
I'm sorry, but I must respectfully disagree. Generally, opinions are neither inherently "right" nor "wrong". A review, however professional, is still the writer's opinion. While I personally enjoyed the episode, I still had some mixed feelings about it (particularly the pacing).
"[on the doctor holding a gun] it didn't fit the man" Unless she is making a statement about the proportional aesthetics of Matt Smith holding the revolver, this is wrong. It does not fit TENNANT. But guns do fit the Doctor. He isn't batman. He's killed plenty of people, and not in that wretched passive "oh they didn't die onscreen therefore i'm not responsible" way either. And for the last two seasons, moffat's writers have been going BACK to that, trying to undo the damage Davies did to the show. And one show prior, he straight killed a man and laughed about it. Should Solomon get away clean? Of course not. Did the doctor need to lock the missles to him instead of throwing the ball into space and letting them track to it? no. And you can't say the device needed the ship's power to be tracked, because that is in no way stated, and would have stopped the missile lock in the first place upon being disconnected.
I read that statement as more of a "The Doctor generally tries to find a better way, so it doesn't seem to fit him" sort of thing, myself. And the Doctor does, in general, try to be a man of peace, so when he picks up a gun, it doesn't seem to suit his ideals. The Doctor doesn't always live up to them, true, but weapons do not seem to fit with the man he tries to be.
 

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Season 6 - Silence/Devil's Run is not the end of the season. The Doctor fights the Silence because of causality and has to be shot: Has to convince River to finally just kill him, or else the universe will implode. Saves the universe.

So yeah... 4 of the six seasons. And all of those CONSECUTIVE.

As for his name, that thing about pete, did it come from an episode or one of the other Dr. Who media? If it came from an episode, it MIGHT hold up, but if it came from a book/comic/etc they will ignore it entirely.
I dunno, the only way Season 6 would be a threat is if he didn't get shot. He didn't seem particularly concerned about that point - he was all Zen about it, at least until he had the cunning idea for a way to trick destiny. I got the impression that a fixed point simply couldn't be changed, not that he had to play along or the universe would unravel. Ah well, I think that comes down to a matter of interpretation.

On season 4 - you're right, I forgot the details. I'm not a fan of Donna, so I don't watch that season often.

As for Pete - that's from the Key to Time season. It's in the season closer. "Pete" is clearly a nickname of some sort, but then so is "Romana" so it doesn't rule out it being a shortening of his real name.

Also, the Doctor was apparently in a Frat that begins with the Greek letter Sigma. The guy calls him "Pete, from Sigma" - which could be a planet until the guy identifies himself as a "fellow Sigma" which implies a fraternity. He was apparently a college buddy of the Doctor's, before he was called the Doctor.
 

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8-Bit_Jack said:
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last series of Torchwood being so bloody awful
Torchwood wasn't watchable in the first place, I can only imagine how bad "bloody awful" is compared to the rest.
The problem it had was Torchwood was meant to be an adult-oriented Dr. Who: Darker, violent, and more pessimistic. What the first series ended up as was Dr. Who as a 13yr old, giggling to itself that it was allowed tits, swearing and violence. That being said, there was ONE really good episode in the first series, and I still think Children Of Earth is the best thing to come out of the new-Who stuff.
 

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Bara_no_Hime said:
I dunno, the only way Season 6 would be a threat is if he didn't get shot. He didn't seem particularly concerned about that point - he was all Zen about it, at least until he had the cunning idea for a way to trick destiny. I got the impression that a fixed point simply couldn't be changed, not that he had to play along or the universe would unravel
Then you weren't paying attention. He not only says it will, but even uses the word unraveling, exactly as you do.
And yeah, the pete thing could go either way.
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The problem it had was Torchwood was meant to be an adult-oriented Dr. Who: Darker, violent, and more pessimistic. What the first series ended up as was Dr. Who as a 13yr old, giggling to itself that it was allowed tits, swearing and violence. That being said, there was ONE really good episode in the first series, and I still think Children Of Earth is the best thing to come out of the new-Who stuff.
See, I watched the first season, and tried several episodes of various other seasons... I quit once I saw Jack make out with his namesake for 10 minutes. Stupid idea, and completely nonsensical in its execution.
Plus, I just hate the Scot. I hope she died
 

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I wasn't terribly pleased with that episode either. The moment that really stung was when the Doctor shoved Jex out of the town then grabbed the gun and threatened him with it. I thought, "This isn't right, the Doctor doesn't use guns." (Well this Doctor doesn't, he's even outright said so) On the other hand, the scene where the Doctor declares that he speaks horse was hilarious as well as the one where he's having a conversation with the horse.
 

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NeonWraith said:
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I've been saying this for quite a few episodes in recent series, and I'm going to say it again. This episode would have really benefited from having a 60 minute runtime as opposed to a 45-50 minute runtime. It needed the extra minutes to properly flesh out some scenes and plot points.
This issue is becoming alarmingly common since the start of the 11th Doctor's run and given that this series will have no two-parters, this issue will only become more frequent.
Fun fact: The BBC has endured horrifying real money budget cuts recently, as the renegotiated licence fee wasn't as generous to them as before (whether you agree with that or not is a seperate issue), and filming Dr. Who is EXPENSIVE, which is why they've been partnering with US networks to get funding, even if it does mean having to agree to film some of it in America. This particular truth is also responsible for the last series of Torchwood being so bloody awful.

I wouldn't expect it to get better, either, as last I looked into it the upper BBC management are desperate to get rid of Moffat, having openly described him as 'a problem' on at least one occasion.
Really? Any particular reason why they don't like Moffat? (Besides the obvious fact that he doesn't know what 'pacing' and 'consistency' are)
 

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Well, at the time of him being described as 'a problem' there was one of the big American studios wanting to do a Dr. Who film, which the BBC higher ups thought was an excellent idea due to the oceans of cash it would let them swim in. Moffat, however, was not massively keen on the idea and wants various concessions on the film, like having some form of veto on the script so they don't ruin the TV series (this is just a rough idea, the specifics elude me as the article about this was from a while back), and he's enough of a famous influential sod that they can't really say no. (there may also be contractual issues, again, not sure).

Also...who on Torchwood was Scottish? o_O
 

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Susan Arendt said:
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The Doctor uses force when necessary, certainly, but the whole visual image of him in an Old West-style shootout really just plain isn't him at all. He doesn't delight in going on the offense, he doesn't make it theater.
If you are talking about what I think you are i.e the confrontation with the crowd outside the jail where he shows off his gun to ward them off, I would argue that he had to do that to 'act the part' as it were. The people of the town would react to what they were familiar with and the Doctor played to that.

If you mean the 1 on 1 with the Gunslinger in the middle of the town. Well that's just good television. Especially since he took out his sonic instead of drawing his gun.
I meant the former and...ok, I'll perhaps concede that idea, though I'm still not entirely convinced.
I've always viewed the Doctor as a 'guns are a last resort' kind of character. He tends to use them either when every other plan has failed (see Dalek) or when things go horribly horribly wrong extremely quickly (Doctor's Daughter and Time of Angels) as opposed to Jack's 'shoot first policy'. Personally, the wild west shootout would have been a much better fit for Jack.
 

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I thought the episode was pretty average, definitely not the worst I've seen. I just sort of see it as a means of showing how The Doctor has changed since he's been by himself. I mean, he's gotten darker and he's got a whole lot less mercy than before. It just sort of felt rushed to me as it could have been a really good episode.
 

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Susan Arendt said:
On a completely different note, I'm curious - do you guys feel like they're setting Amy up to be in some sort of spinoff? The recent episodes seem intent on proving how capable she is without the Doctor.
I get the feeling that they are leading towards her dying, Rather then showing how capable she is I think it is showing how much the Doctor has been relying on her and that when she eventually leaves the show (I think it was two episodes from now or so) how it pushes him or affects him.

That alongside a theory I have that I wont go into now for spaces sake make me worry for her and Rory
 

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I don't know if this has been pointed out, since I don't care to read 93 other responses to this column, but...

A TOWN CALLED MERCY IS NOTHING MORE THAN A REWRITE OF FRANKENSTEIN!!!

That's it. That's all it is, basically. And, yes, the Doctor should not have been handling a gun. Tennant/Doctor would never have done that. Smith/Doctor is getting closer and closer to being the Valyard with each new episode. Heh, yeah, we all see that coming, don't we?
 

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Good review. I agree this was probably the worst episode of the 11th doctor (maybe even of the whole new series, but I would have to really think on that), however it did have one good aspect (well two, I did enjoy Ben Browder's role, but it needed more John Wayne references).

Matt Smith has never pulled off the dark doctor, and this was the first episode with him where I finally saw the rage that underlies the doctors comic front. As Jex is describing what he has done Smith's face takes on a dark cast and suddenly he pulls Jex out and plans throws him out to be killed. Only it isn't Jex the doctor is condemning, but himself.

The doctor has done many terrible things in the name of the greater good, and he hates himself for it. Hearing Jex's story might as well have been hearing how the doctor killed all the timelords and Daleks (well for a short time at least, the Daleks seem to be like cockroaches).

I loved how David Tennent could go from whimsical to rage so well, but Matt Smith has never been able to do that. In A good man goes to war that is what we should have seen, but instead he just joked around with everyone. He almost got mad at River, but not quite.

So while the episode overall was terrible, it was nice to see matt Smith improve his range as the doctor, and I hope we will see more of it.