About a girl

[New Troll]

Heres the whole story so everyone can be informed of what situation im in... Okay so this starts a year and a half ago she was in my class and I had my friend who was her best friend mention me to her so she and I started talking and we hung out halloween in 2007 and had a really great time at a little party kind of thing and then back to school her best friend ( my friend) said she wants me to kiss her. So here's what ive been regretting ever since that time we were gonna hang out that sunday and i was thinking im gonna kiss her .... i never did call me what you want .... Then after asking her to be my girlfriend she said no then the net day she went out with some other guy .... So I tried to cover up my feelings for her with another girl. Then when she broke up with that guy i started talking to her again and I told her after the appropriate waiting time I told her I still had feelings for her and she said we can go on a date, then my friend whos not my friend anymore texted her saying this shit about me like o you guys are going out and w.e. and then when i got home I told her my friend is a dick in a text message and other shit she didnt reply for a while so I started talking with the other girl and it ended with me and her going out and then as soon as that happened she said dont worry about it we still have that date right? so yeah I hate myself because I went out with this girl for a good chunk of my life and now i started talking to the girl i really like again who i got to agree to go on a date with me and i saw pics of her at a party and asked her friend whats up and she said "well you have a little competition not much I think you have them beat but try hard" so ive become dedicated to kiss her on the movies but idk if i should and im really nervous idk wht to do im lost im going in circles...

Okay, after reading this I'm going to assume you're still very young. All I can say is make sure you always think with your brain and follow your heart, not letting any other body parts make decisions for you. If you're in some sort of relationship, you really shouldn't be going on a date with someone else. That's just going to end up with two girls not liking you, not to mention everyone they talk to. Be honest, especially to yourself. And don't be afraid to take your time. You've got your whole life ahead of you, and there's no need rushing to mess it up.

 

[Lilbeets]

Heres the whole story so everyone can be informed of what situation im in... Okay so this starts a year and a half ago she was in my class and I had my friend who was her best friend mention me to her so she and I started talking and we hung out halloween in 2007 and had a really great time at a little party kind of thing and then back to school her best friend ( my friend) said she wants me to kiss her. So here's what ive been regretting ever since that time we were gonna hang out that sunday and i was thinking im gonna kiss her .... i never did call me what you want .... Then after asking her to be my girlfriend she said no then the net day she went out with some other guy .... So I tried to cover up my feelings for her with another girl. Then when she broke up with that guy i started talking to her again and I told her after the appropriate waiting time I told her I still had feelings for her and she said we can go on a date, then my friend whos not my friend anymore texted her saying this shit about me like o you guys are going out and w.e. and then when i got home I told her my friend is a dick in a text message and other shit she didnt reply for a while so I started talking with the other girl and it ended with me and her going out and then as soon as that happened she said dont worry about it we still have that date right? so yeah I hate myself because I went out with this girl for a good chunk of my life and now i started talking to the girl i really like again who i got to agree to go on a date with me and i saw pics of her at a party and asked her friend whats up and she said "well you have a little competition not much I think you have them beat but try hard" so ive become dedicated to kiss her on the movies but idk if i should and im really nervous idk wht to do im lost im going in circles...

Okay, after reading this I'm going to assume you're still very young. All I can say is make sure you always think with your brain and follow your heart, not letting any other body parts make decisions for you. If you're in some sort of relationship, you really shouldn't be going on a date with someone else. That's just going to end up with two girls not liking you, not to mention everyone they talk to. Be honest, especially to yourself. And don't be afraid to take your time. You've got your whole life ahead of you, and there's no need rushing to mess it up.

Well yeah im 18 and I broke up with the other girl because well she made my life miserable theres so much more detail that can go into that story ... a lot more but ill leave it the way it is for now I mean I know I have a long life ahead of me but from the first moment I saw her I just felt something....

 

[hungoverbear]

I know this isnt the place to post girl issues but I need help. Okay its kind of a long story but ill shorten it up this girl and I had something and lost it im trying to get it back I broke the barrier of her agreeing to go on a date with me to the movies, I know I have competition how do I make myself look better than them, and what should I do in the movies? how should I act?

Move on. If she is seeing other guys, she is not into you, and it will never work.

I agree, but if you do decide to go out with her here are some pointers to add

Make eye contact, no dont get into a staring contest, just keep eye contact when you talk to her, itll let her know that you are interested in what she has to say.

dont talk about negative things, i.e. talking shit about other people in school

DO NOT!! talk about politics, religion, or the meaning of life. bad bad bad idea

Lastly, if your not feeling the connection then dont kiss her! Dont get the whole mind set of "ok im gonna kiss her tonight and thats that", that my friend will skrew you over more than anything. if you dont feel a good connection or if she is distant through out the date then dont do it. dont sneek attack one in either, thatll really piss her off. If i were you i save the kiss for the second date.

Good Luck

 

[sheic99]

Chivalrous.

Not unless he actually is chivalrous by nature.
Lying isn't going to get you anywhere, OP.

You should act like yourself.
Yes, I am aware how cliche that is.

Well, he asked how to make himself look better than the competition, not what is morally just and what wcould lead to a healthy relationship...

...I guess you have a point, loathe as I am to admit defeat. <color=white> To a gurrrl.
Still, I never liked the idea of hiding who you are from someone you plan on developing a relationship with, friends or otherwise.

Which is strange because goddamn do I love to lie.

Anyway, OP, if you're interested solely in making yourself look better...you'd have to tell us more about the girl, I guess.
But yeah, being polite and gentlemanly is a pretty sure thing for most girls.

<color=white>I was kidding about the "to a girl" thing, but you probably knew that.

I don't think you realizehow many points you get for being able to admit that you overlooked a minute detail. Hint: Its over a certain number... [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiMHTK15Pik]

Fixed the link.

 

[Valiance]

I know this isnt the place to post girl issues but I need help. Okay its kind of a long story but ill shorten it up this girl and I had something and lost it im trying to get it back I broke the barrier of her agreeing to go on a date with me to the movies, I know I have competition how do I make myself look better than them, and what should I do in the movies? how should I act?

I recommend you attempt to portray yourself in the stereotypical "cool" from the mid-90's.

I'm certain that a flat-top and leather jacket should show that you mean business.

 

[Simiou]

Wow I love how everyone is assuming this girl is a stereotype. Maybe she loves videogames? Or maybe she finds a well placed swear word ammusing? Act chivalrous? Is this a Jane Asten novel? If being polite isnt in your nature then theres no point trying. Remember, its just going to see a movie, relax and enjoy it and just chat and stuff. If she goes for you, great. If not, move on. Also, dont act like her *****. Its tempting I know, but girls generally dont go for guys who act like there slaves.

 

[Simiou]

Some are into it, though.
...I wish I had something more interesting to say, but in the end, I am not interesting.

EDIT2: To be fair, stereotypes are stereotypes for a reason. Without any information on this girl, we have to default to what we know is stereotypically, generally true about females.

Yeah I know, it is stuff we already know, including this guy. Whatever, he'll act how hes gonna act anyway and either things will happen or they wont. If I had a point I guess its that peoples advice on the opposite sex is normally very mundane. But granted it has to be since no one knows this girl. On a lighter night, most hilarious piece of advice I ever got was a couple of months ago from a female friend of mine. It was simply 'Be a bit of a twat'

 

[Inverse Skies]

If she doesn't want to get back with you please don't keep on pushing the issue.

My ex and I broke up a few months ago and ever since then she's bugged me about getting back together, despite me saying 'no' quite clearly. (We were living together when we broke up, if you can't live together then you're not right for each other).

Constantly trying to get someback is just... creepy after a while and doesn't reflect well on you as a person. It indicates an insecurity which you really have to take control of and beat. There is always someone else out there for you, and you're young as well. There's years to find another person, so yeah it's going to suck for a while but you will get over it, and find someone better. Trust me.

 

[mike1921]

Chivalrous.

Not unless he actually is chivalrous by nature.
Lying isn't going to get you anywhere, OP.

You should act like yourself.
Yes, I am aware how cliche that is.

Well, he asked how to make himself look better than the competition, not what is morally just and what wcould lead to a healthy relationship...

...I guess you have a point, loathe as I am to admit defeat. <color=white> To a gurrrl.
Still, I never liked the idea of hiding who you are from someone you plan on developing a relationship with, friends or otherwise.

Which is strange because goddamn do I love to lie.

Anyway, OP, if you're interested solely in making yourself look better...you'd have to tell us more about the girl, I guess.
But yeah, being polite and gentlemanly is a pretty sure thing for most girls.

<color=white>I was kidding about the "to a girl" thing, but you probably knew that.

Ok, I have someone who's not my age and thinks too much like me who lives in Illinois and one who lives in Florida........

-snip-


DO NOT!! talk about politics, religion, or the meaning of life. bad bad bad idea

...............There are people who'd do that on the first date? Faith in humanity *OVER 9000 (It's already in the negatives obviously)

Well yeah im 18 and I broke up with the other girl because well she made my life miserable theres so much more detail that can go into that story ... a lot more but ill leave it the way it is for now I mean I know I have a long life ahead of me but from the first moment I saw her I just felt something....

A boner? Really, that's all you could feel from looking at someone that would make you want her instead of fear her.

Also, thank god you didn't tell us enough about her for me to be able to give you advice. Your "I just felt something" line made it so I'd only give the advice out of habit even though I don't think you deserve it.

 

[Same River New Water]

The fact that you're asking for advice here makes me think you might be a hesitant person. Don't do this:

She: "What movie should we watch?"
You: "Whatever you want to watch."

She: "Do you want to get popcorn?"
You: "Oh, I dunno, do you want some?"

You don't have to "be a bit of a twat", but don't be eager to please. Have your own opinions and don't agree with everything she says just to please her.

Nice guys don't finish last - followers finish last. The reason jerks get girls is not that they're mean, but that they have forceful personalities. Girls like leaders.

EDIT: Once you've been out together for an hour or two, if things are going well and you think you have a shot, don't jump straight to a kiss.

Things To Do Before You Go In For A First Kiss

* Try some eye contact. Like someone said, don't make it a staring contest, but see if she'll look back at you without being totally uncomfortable.

* Has she been smiling at you? This isn't as obvious a sign as it might seem. Some people are just naturally smiley and some people don't smile. But a smile + eye contact is a good sign.

* If things are going well, try putting your hand next to hers or lightly on her arm. If she shrugs you off, back off for a bit. She might just be uncomfortable, but uncomfortable is not a good sign.

* Say something that implies you like her. This can be subtle. For a not-very-subtle example, if she's a redhead, you might say "I think red hair is totally hot." If she smiles, she's probably caught the hint.

* She'll probably stand close to you if she likes you. If you think she likes you but she's keeping a distance, try standing close to her; if she backs off, don't push your luck.

Basically it all boils down to keeping an eye on her body language and moving into her 'personal space' a step at a time. If you do it right and she's into you, by the time you come to a kiss you shouldn't have to hesitate.

 

[Simiou]

Heres the whole story so everyone can be informed of what situation im in... Okay so this starts a year and a half ago she was in my class and I had my friend who was her best friend mention me to her so she and I started talking and we hung out halloween in 2007 and had a really great time at a little party kind of thing and then back to school her best friend ( my friend) said she wants me to kiss her. So here's what ive been regretting ever since that time we were gonna hang out that sunday and i was thinking im gonna kiss her .... i never did call me what you want .... Then after asking her to be my girlfriend she said no then the net day she went out with some other guy .... So I tried to cover up my feelings for her with another girl. Then when she broke up with that guy i started talking to her again and I told her after the appropriate waiting time I told her I still had feelings for her and she said we can go on a date, then my friend whos not my friend anymore texted her saying this shit about me like o you guys are going out and w.e. and then when i got home I told her my friend is a dick in a text message and other shit she didnt reply for a while so I started talking with the other girl and it ended with me and her going out and then as soon as that happened she said dont worry about it we still have that date right? so yeah I hate myself because I went out with this girl for a good chunk of my life and now i started talking to the girl i really like again who i got to agree to go on a date with me and i saw pics of her at a party and asked her friend whats up and she said "well you have a little competition not much I think you have them beat but try hard" so ive become dedicated to kiss her on the movies but idk if i should and im really nervous idk wht to do im lost im going in circles...

Sorry it took me like 3 attempts to understand all that. Ok so the gist is you like a girl but didnt kiss her, then stopped talking to her when she went out with someone else. You only started talking once she became single and straight away you tell her about 'feelings' you have for her. Sorry dude, you sound like a drama queen. It would be better if the two of you were just hanging out but you seemed to have really stressed the fact that its a 'date'. Which is really just gonna put a lot of pressure on this girl and you to make something happen as opposed to just spending time together and seeing if you like each other. At the start of a relasionship it should just be two people who find each other hot and like each other personally, it doesnt have to be some epic book worthy love story. Im not trying to be harsh to you, but Im not feeling great about you chances. As you say, there is competition, persumably of the more fun and less emotional kind. Your still in the running cause you have a bit of history but seriously dont pin all your hopes on this girl.

 

[Simiou]

Also, you're 18 and socialable enough to get a girlfriend and yet you turn to the internet for advice instead of people that actually know you and/or this girl. This makes me think maybe your friends werent exactly positive about the whole idea? This does not bode well.

 

[Lilbeets]

Chivalrous.

Not unless he actually is chivalrous by nature.
Lying isn't going to get you anywhere, OP.

You should act like yourself.
Yes, I am aware how cliche that is.

Well, he asked how to make himself look better than the competition, not what is morally just and what wcould lead to a healthy relationship...

...I guess you have a point, loathe as I am to admit defeat. <color=white> To a gurrrl.
Still, I never liked the idea of hiding who you are from someone you plan on developing a relationship with, friends or otherwise.

Which is strange because goddamn do I love to lie.

Anyway, OP, if you're interested solely in making yourself look better...you'd have to tell us more about the girl, I guess.
But yeah, being polite and gentlemanly is a pretty sure thing for most girls.

<color=white>I was kidding about the "to a girl" thing, but you probably knew that.

Ok, I have someone who's not my age and thinks too much like me who lives in Illinois and one who lives in Florida........

-snip-


DO NOT!! talk about politics, religion, or the meaning of life. bad bad bad idea

...............There are people who'd do that on the first date? Faith in humanity *OVER 9000 (It's already in the negatives obviously)

Well yeah im 18 and I broke up with the other girl because well she made my life miserable theres so much more detail that can go into that story ... a lot more but ill leave it the way it is for now I mean I know I have a long life ahead of me but from the first moment I saw her I just felt something....

A boner? Really, that's all you could feel from looking at someone that would make you want her instead of fear her.

Also, thank god you didn't tell us enough about her for me to be able to give you advice. Your "I just felt something" line made it so I'd only give the advice out of habit even though I don't think you deserve it.

No, I just thought she was amazing...If you want me to get into more detail trust me I can

 

[mike1921]

No, I just thought she was amazing...If you want me to get into more detail trust me I can

Do so, and please explain how you could think she's amazing just by looking at her without it just meaning "she's hot"

 

[Lilbeets]

Also, you're 18 and socialable enough to get a girlfriend and yet you turn to the internet for advice instead of people that actually know you and/or this girl. This makes me think maybe your friends werent exactly positive about the whole idea? This does not bode well.

Well my friends are helping me as much as possible I mean from everyone this is what i have so far

- Dont be a prick

- Be polite

- Dont think to much about this girl

- Be myself

 

[Lilbeets]

The fact that you're asking for advice here makes me think you might be a hesitant person. Don't do this:

She: "What movie should we watch?"
You: "Whatever you want to watch."

She: "Do you want to get popcorn?"
You: "Oh, I dunno, do you want some?"

You don't have to "be a bit of a twat", but don't be eager to please. Have your own opinions and don't agree with everything she says just to please her.

Nice guys don't finish last - followers finish last. The reason jerks get girls is not that they're mean, but that they have forceful personalities. Girls like leaders.

EDIT: Once you've been out together for an hour or two, if things are going well and you think you have a shot, don't jump straight to a kiss.

Things To Do Before You Go In For A First Kiss

* Try some eye contact. Like someone said, don't make it a staring contest, but see if she'll look back at you without being totally uncomfortable.

* Has she been smiling at you? This isn't as obvious a sign as it might seem. Some people are just naturally smiley and some people don't smile. But a smile + eye contact is a good sign.

* If things are going well, try putting your hand next to hers or lightly on her arm. If she shrugs you off, back off for a bit. She might just be uncomfortable, but uncomfortable is not a good sign.

* Say something that implies you like her. This can be subtle. For a not-very-subtle example, if she's a redhead, you might say "I think red hair is totally hot." If she smiles, she's probably caught the hint.

* She'll probably stand close to you if she likes you. If you think she likes you but she's keeping a distance, try standing close to her; if she backs off, don't push your luck.

Basically it all boils down to keeping an eye on her body language and moving into her 'personal space' a step at a time. If you do it right and she's into you, by the time you come to a kiss you shouldn't have to hesitate.

This helped me a lot thanks. Ive liked this girl for a year and a half I just hope she feels the same way about me at the end of the night.

 

[Lilbeets]

No, I just thought she was amazing...If you want me to get into more detail trust me I can

Do so, and please explain how you could think she's amazing just by looking at her without it just meaning "she's hot"

Well on the first day she was sitting in the row next to me and a little in front of me and I told my friend who was sitting in front of me that she looked like she's really pretty and I guess she mustve heard me so i turned my head down but she has long brown hair hazel eyes and her smile is really what I like ( I know this may seem movie like or w.e. but its true) When she smiles its contagious it makes you happy and she seems to glow. Later in the day I found that my friend from a really long time ago who was also my ex was her best friend was in my other class so I told ( im using names) kimi about her and kimi made her talk to me and we hit it off really well and it was then when I realized that she was well just amazing her names Angela btw. Also her personality it cant be any better she's not a ***** to anyone she's the single nicest person ive ever met.

 

[mike1921]

No, I just thought she was amazing...If you want me to get into more detail trust me I can

Do so, and please explain how you could think she's amazing just by looking at her without it just meaning "she's hot"

Well on the first day she was sitting in the row next to me and a little in front of me and I told my friend who was sitting in front of me that she looked like she's really pretty and I guess she mustve heard me so i turned my head down but she has long brown hair hazel eyes and her smile is really what I like ( I know this may seem movie like or w.e. but its true) When she smiles its contagious it makes you happy and she seems to glow. Later in the day I found that my friend from a really long time ago who was also my ex was her best friend was in my other class so I told ( im using names) kimi about her and kimi made her talk to me and we hit it off really well and it was then when I realized that she was well just amazing her names Angela btw. Also her personality it cant be any better she's not a ***** to anyone she's the single nicest person ive ever met.

Ok, fair enough.

 

[Lilbeets]

O not to mention its a date next week and i have class with her in the morning.... what to i say to her tomorrow nod and say hi or more?