Activision Hate Not Based in Reality, Says Activision

Calico93

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Okay yeah I can understand shutting down game makers because of the "tough industry" and the Global recession that we were in, but churning out COD after COD after COD and GH after GH after GH etc is fairly annoying, as theyre sacking the people with ideas for new games and sticking to what will make them money. Which I can understand to a point because a company needs to make money but hmmmm I think they have enough of that already.
 

Imre Csete

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"Activision CEO Bobby Kotick is Emperor Palpatine and Activision is his evil Empire"

There is a huge difference being Awesome Evil and A**hole Evil.
 

YodaUnleashed

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Those who are evil never consider themselves to be evil, so this is hardly surprising. For Palpatine "evil is a point of view" so no wonder in their view they're not evil.
 

DTWolfwood

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Sure i guess we can just ignore everything Kotick have said to date that made him look like a tool to industry personnel and hardcore gamers alike. (If i was a share holder in the company i would think they were the most beautiful thing ever, but im not so fuck you activision! and damn you for your taint on Blizzard by association! grrr)

And since when does any company/organization would ever consider itself evil? o_O
Im pretty sure the Nazi's never considered themselves evil lol
 

Fasckira

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I think I would have more respect for them if they just said, "Yeah, we're evil and we're in it for the money - do one.".
 

Fasckira

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DTWolfwood said:
And since when does any company/organization would ever consider itself evil? o_O
Im pretty sure the Nazi's never considered themselves evil lol
Check this dude, its brilliant:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEle_DLDg9Y
 

DTWolfwood

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Fasckira said:
DTWolfwood said:
And since when does any company/organization would ever consider itself evil? o_O
Im pretty sure the Nazi's never considered themselves evil lol
Check this dude, its brilliant:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEle_DLDg9Y
hah! XD

the US Navy is evil too!
 

Eclectic Dreck

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sunburst313 said:
I find it rather strange that he uses the "It's just good business" defense as if that somehow excuses anything or nullifies their public image. You can't run a cutthroat business that only cares about profit without gaining a reputation as a cutthroat business that only cares about profit. As long as they continue being that company, attempts to improve their image are unlikely to be well received. See this thread for examples.
This is true. But running a cutthroat business is a sound business strategy. There is no malice there. The bottom line is an impartial mediator of the decisions they make and the only one that they are beholden to as a public company. Their image is of no importance so long as people continue buying their games in ever increasing volume.

Activision isn't evil. They aren't good either. Gamers as a community seem to have a number of problems with this. They can't tell the difference between good and evil, they ask for things that are new and exciting and then never buy it while proceeding to buy the old and boring thing in record numbers at every opportunity and they mistake candid statements about the cold hard realities of business as equivalent to the hate speeches of Hitler himself.

I don't particularly like activision but then I don't have to. Our relationship is simple enough that my emotional response need not come into it at all. It turns out the only thing that really matters is that they produce games that I want to play.
 

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This just makes me realize how preposterously bad at his job Bobby Kotick is. This guy seems at least somewhat respectful of his consumer base, even if he admits that his motivation is monetary; Kotick genuinely doesn't seem to understand why people get mad when he proposes charging for a free service or arbitrarily hiking prices.
 

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Pugiron said:
How many lawsuits? How many sexual harassment lawsuits? How many public statements by Bobby Boy about milking gamers for all their worth?

Anyone surprised this came through Tom Goldman?
I'm not surprised. I write about things people in the game industry say for this website.
 

Smooth Operator

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Hmm, I can't help but feel Activision may be biased on the opinion of itself.
They are money hungry power house, and evil soul sucking is simply part of good business.
 

Admiral Stukov

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Notice how they didn't let Bobby Kotick answer this.
That man have his foot permanently stuck in his mouth, and pretty much everyone knows that.

But evil? They're a company. Companies goal is to make money. Some are more greedy than others.
 

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Stickfigure said:
Activision has frankly been living off sheer force of the Call of Duty series' momentum and everything Blizzard does. And the only reason Blizzard seems to progress is because Activision has almost no power over them.
I bet it was Activisions fault we got Battle net 0.2 in SC2. I don't know how, but it was.
 

z3rostr1fe

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I hate Kotick, and he reflects Activision itself. Therefore, I hate Activision.

Admit it, Activision has the worst PR people in the world.
 

Superfly CJ

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tiredinnuendo said:
Shamus did an Experienced Points on Kotick which I felt made some pretty good arguments. In brief, the TLDR version is that Kotick lucked into a really good job, and frankly doesn't have the savvy and talent for it, but from a market perspective it's better to keep him on than to replace him.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/columns/experienced-points/8169-Experienced-Points-Age-of-Kotick
So what if he lucked into a really good job and isn't worthy of it? If estimations reason that it's more effective to keep him in place, then I see nothing wrong with keeping him in place.

Regardless, what I was saying is that we shouldn't care, and just play the games we want to play, regardless of who endorses or publishes them. There'll always be something to hate, and there'll always be more important things to hate on. Kotick is just a man with a loose mouth- at the end of the day, he'll always be kept in check by his peers and stopped from starting the apocalypse, like most people seem to think he's capable of.

Any time his name is mentioned, people come forward with barrages of insults and death threats, which doesn't exactly paint a great picture of the gaming community.


Goodwin's Law effectively states that the longer you talk, the more likely a given topic is to come up. You could just as easily make it about kittens or pies and it would be exactly the same. It is not proof of anything, nor is it an argument winner. The internet needs to stop treating it as such.

- J
I never said it was proof of anything. Notice how it was edited in and not in any way related to my post. It's a fun coincidence to pick up on, and I treat it as nothing more.