Activision Is Platform Agnostic, Says Kotick

[Catalyst6]

This reminds me of the guy who's very obviously a little bit racist but will jump on any chance to say that he "Doesn't even SEE color"!

A game will always be developed for one platform then ported to the rest. It might be a good port, but it's a port nonetheless. It's just the most convenient way of doing things.

 

[JoshGod]

While i dont like Kotick this is a good attitude for a company to have, even if he only believes this because he can make more profit out of it.

I find 'xxx console only' games just tend to piss off a lot of people.

Is there any better reason for a ceo of a company to believe that? He does run a company not the toyshop at the north pole. What is with "they make games so they shouldn't worry about profits" mentality?? What makes developing games any different from any other company?

It doesn't however there's a difference between making a profit and just being a douche about it.

Well then try focusing your anger at the people who deserve it. And that is not Bobby. That is the "journalists" who insist on quoting him everytime he says it like it is. Cuz I really hate to be the one to say it but a CEO of any company anywhere saying "I want to make money" is not newsworthy. And they are being far more douchey by using these catchy headlines to villify Bobby to get more hits which equals ad revenue.

Oh crap I meant to say don't look at the man behind the curtain.

Its his fault if he (a CEO) cant keep his mouth shut. It's not that he says he wants money its how he does it that makes him seem like the kind of person who will ruin games for money and that is why as someone who buys games I am not happy with him.

 

[JoshGod]

Criticized for ignoring casual gaming, I consider CoD to be casual gaming. Also why is he trying to say he favours no console when realistically he does, whichever is cheaper/brings in more money.

Yep. COD is casual. Most 'young' people; 'gamers' and 'non-gamers', male and female teenagers and suicidal teachers know what it is. 'COD' has almost reached the 'Coke' level where instead of lets "My boyfriend is playing X" or "a game", it's "They're playing COD".

It's easy, brainless, 'levelling'/grinding and profiteering. With a 'new' one churned out every year to soak up as much money as possible.

Thank you for expressing that, my version would of been terrible, also I assumed most teachers were suicidal.

 

[JoshGod]

While i dont like Kotick this is a good attitude for a company to have, even if he only believes this because he can make more profit out of it.

I find 'xxx console only' games just tend to piss off a lot of people.

Is there any better reason for a ceo of a company to believe that? He does run a company not the toyshop at the north pole. What is with "they make games so they shouldn't worry about profits" mentality?? What makes developing games any different from any other company?

It doesn't however there's a difference between making a profit and just being a douche about it.

If he's making a profit, so what that he's a douche about it? You think his shareholders care more about the profit or that he's a douche about it? I'm guessing that they care more about the profit.

What about customers? After all what is a business without its customers? Seriously its in his best interest (yes profit) to at least cut down on the bullshit let alone see to the decreasing quality in their games.

That's what I suspect may be the problem. That the customers somehow see themselves as the objective of the business' existence. They're not. They're only the means by which the business gets to its objective. As long as they continue to provide that means, the business, truth be told, could care less about the customers.

Mayby one day those 14mill(?) CoDers will realise the shit they eat, or Activision will keep up the two year cycle making them unplayable, and hopefully whats left of Infinityward will help this with so much of the talent lost.

 

[squid5580]

While i dont like Kotick this is a good attitude for a company to have, even if he only believes this because he can make more profit out of it.

I find 'xxx console only' games just tend to piss off a lot of people.

Is there any better reason for a ceo of a company to believe that? He does run a company not the toyshop at the north pole. What is with "they make games so they shouldn't worry about profits" mentality?? What makes developing games any different from any other company?

It doesn't however there's a difference between making a profit and just being a douche about it.

Well then try focusing your anger at the people who deserve it. And that is not Bobby. That is the "journalists" who insist on quoting him everytime he says it like it is. Cuz I really hate to be the one to say it but a CEO of any company anywhere saying "I want to make money" is not newsworthy. And they are being far more douchey by using these catchy headlines to villify Bobby to get more hits which equals ad revenue.

Oh crap I meant to say don't look at the man behind the curtain.

Its his fault if he (a CEO) cant keep his mouth shut. It's not that he says he wants money its how he does it that makes him seem like the kind of person who will ruin games for money and that is why as someone who buys games I am not happy with him.

lol ya thats it. He ruins games for $$$$. Because bad games = profit? Is this why everyone hates him? Because he makes gamers make gamers sound like complete idiots? Durr we gamers made Activision top dog but they ruin games so we must all be morons. But lets blame the CEO instead so we don't feel stupid or feel like liars. And then we can all buy the next COD and help it break a new record guilt free. Hooray. Cuz Bobby did it.

 

[squid5580]

While i dont like Kotick this is a good attitude for a company to have, even if he only believes this because he can make more profit out of it.

I find 'xxx console only' games just tend to piss off a lot of people.

Is there any better reason for a ceo of a company to believe that? He does run a company not the toyshop at the north pole. What is with "they make games so they shouldn't worry about profits" mentality?? What makes developing games any different from any other company?

It doesn't however there's a difference between making a profit and just being a douche about it.

If he's making a profit, so what that he's a douche about it? You think his shareholders care more about the profit or that he's a douche about it? I'm guessing that they care more about the profit.

What about customers? After all what is a business without its customers? Seriously its in his best interest (yes profit) to at least cut down on the bullshit let alone see to the decreasing quality in their games.

That's what I suspect may be the problem. That the customers somehow see themselves as the objective of the business' existence. They're not. They're only the means by which the business gets to its objective. As long as they continue to provide that means, the business, truth be told, could care less about the customers.

Mayby one day those 14mill(?) CoDers will realise the shit they eat, or Activision will keep up the two year cycle making them unplayable, and hopefully whats left of Infinityward will help this with so much of the talent lost.

Or maybe and this could come as a shock but they like COD? OMG I know the horror. Such a wacky idea could never be true. I am sure that there is some wizard at Activision casting hypnosis spells on every box before they ship that forces them to buy it. I betcha the same thing happens with Madden and every other game I have no particular interest in. It is the only rational explanation. I mean millions of people enjoying a game that I don't?? It has got to be the work of a wizard.

 

[squid5580]

While i dont like Kotick this is a good attitude for a company to have, even if he only believes this because he can make more profit out of it.

I find 'xxx console only' games just tend to piss off a lot of people.

Is there any better reason for a ceo of a company to believe that? He does run a company not the toyshop at the north pole. What is with "they make games so they shouldn't worry about profits" mentality?? What makes developing games any different from any other company?

A lot of the "games as art" folks believe you shouldn't worry about the profits at all. Which is total bullshit.

However, let's remember the Activision - Inifinity Ward heads debacle. West and Zampella left for a reason, and that whole shitstorm happened, and many of the IW team wound up leaving with them. There's got to be a reason for that. Plus, IW's strict "one game/yr" strategy means that neither IW nor Treyarch have the time they need to make something great instead of just another fragfest. Both companies have the ability to make something really, really memorable (CoD4, Spider-Man 2), but they're not given the time because fucking Kotick wants his yearly couple-million dollar bonus. I feel no sympathy for Kotick, I don't like the man. He drives video games into the ground. And why does anyone need such a huge paycheck, anyway? Wouldn't that money be better off in a vault or something, being saved for when times get rough like they do for everything that gets that big?

Well see here is how I see it. And I must applaud you for putting forward a valid arguement for a change. First we don't know what happened between Acti and IW. Sure we have tons of rumors and speculation and whatnot but not all the facts. It could very well be that they got a better offer elsewhere. We just don't know how everything went down. Secondly they don't need to make a "great" ame. Putting aside the whole who knows what is truly great blah blah arguement lets look at the facts. A game that was put out a year after its prequel smoked every other game which had years to develop that came out that year. To me that sends a very clear message. Long development times mean jack. It just eats resources for the same result. No matter how you slice it the end result is still the same. Bobby is rich, Acti is a juggernaught and all because gamers made them that way.

And for the record I thought Singularity was great. By far my fave fps of last year. A game that didn't do very well comercially because "it was not marketed properly" meanwhile the first time I heard about it was on the tv at Gamestop. I really think when gamers say "it wasn't marketed properly" it means "it doesn't have a number in the title so we won't buy it". I mean we can't have it both ways. And hating Bobby is not going to change that.

 

[JoshGod]

While i dont like Kotick this is a good attitude for a company to have, even if he only believes this because he can make more profit out of it.

I find 'xxx console only' games just tend to piss off a lot of people.

Is there any better reason for a ceo of a company to believe that? He does run a company not the toyshop at the north pole. What is with "they make games so they shouldn't worry about profits" mentality?? What makes developing games any different from any other company?

It doesn't however there's a difference between making a profit and just being a douche about it.

If he's making a profit, so what that he's a douche about it? You think his shareholders care more about the profit or that he's a douche about it? I'm guessing that they care more about the profit.

What about customers? After all what is a business without its customers? Seriously its in his best interest (yes profit) to at least cut down on the bullshit let alone see to the decreasing quality in their games.

That's what I suspect may be the problem. That the customers somehow see themselves as the objective of the business' existence. They're not. They're only the means by which the business gets to its objective. As long as they continue to provide that means, the business, truth be told, could care less about the customers.

Mayby one day those 14mill(?) CoDers will realise the shit they eat, or Activision will keep up the two year cycle making them unplayable, and hopefully whats left of Infinityward will help this with so much of the talent lost.

Or maybe and this could come as a shock but they like COD? OMG I know the horror. Such a wacky idea could never be true. I am sure that there is some wizard at Activision casting hypnosis spells on every box before they ship that forces them to buy it. I betcha the same thing happens with Madden and every other game I have no particular interest in. It is the only rational explanation. I mean millions of people enjoying a game that I don't?? It has got to be the work of a wizard.

There is no doubt people like it, and that it is good. The problem is people will continue to buy it regardless of what happens as long as the basic mechanics (aiming, movement etc) are intact, i mean when there was the subscription talk, i went around telling this to the CoDers, their reaction was how much?

 

[squid5580]

While i dont like Kotick this is a good attitude for a company to have, even if he only believes this because he can make more profit out of it.

I find 'xxx console only' games just tend to piss off a lot of people.

Is there any better reason for a ceo of a company to believe that? He does run a company not the toyshop at the north pole. What is with "they make games so they shouldn't worry about profits" mentality?? What makes developing games any different from any other company?

It doesn't however there's a difference between making a profit and just being a douche about it.

If he's making a profit, so what that he's a douche about it? You think his shareholders care more about the profit or that he's a douche about it? I'm guessing that they care more about the profit.

What about customers? After all what is a business without its customers? Seriously its in his best interest (yes profit) to at least cut down on the bullshit let alone see to the decreasing quality in their games.

That's what I suspect may be the problem. That the customers somehow see themselves as the objective of the business' existence. They're not. They're only the means by which the business gets to its objective. As long as they continue to provide that means, the business, truth be told, could care less about the customers.

Mayby one day those 14mill(?) CoDers will realise the shit they eat, or Activision will keep up the two year cycle making them unplayable, and hopefully whats left of Infinityward will help this with so much of the talent lost.

Or maybe and this could come as a shock but they like COD? OMG I know the horror. Such a wacky idea could never be true. I am sure that there is some wizard at Activision casting hypnosis spells on every box before they ship that forces them to buy it. I betcha the same thing happens with Madden and every other game I have no particular interest in. It is the only rational explanation. I mean millions of people enjoying a game that I don't?? It has got to be the work of a wizard.

There is no doubt people like it, and that it is good. The problem is people will continue to buy it regardless of what happens as long as the basic mechanics (aiming, movement etc) are intact, i mean when there was the subscription talk, i went around telling this to the CoDers, their reaction was how much?

And? They are happy with it. Acti is happy with the money it makes. Other games still get made which makes me happy. Video game "journalists" are happy cuz they get to phone in the weekly "Bobby said he likes profiting from making games" article. Bobby makes the industry go round. He is a hero.

 

[JoshGod]

While i dont like Kotick this is a good attitude for a company to have, even if he only believes this because he can make more profit out of it.

I find 'xxx console only' games just tend to piss off a lot of people.

Is there any better reason for a ceo of a company to believe that? He does run a company not the toyshop at the north pole. What is with "they make games so they shouldn't worry about profits" mentality?? What makes developing games any different from any other company?

It doesn't however there's a difference between making a profit and just being a douche about it.

Well then try focusing your anger at the people who deserve it. And that is not Bobby. That is the "journalists" who insist on quoting him everytime he says it like it is. Cuz I really hate to be the one to say it but a CEO of any company anywhere saying "I want to make money" is not newsworthy. And they are being far more douchey by using these catchy headlines to villify Bobby to get more hits which equals ad revenue.

Oh crap I meant to say don't look at the man behind the curtain.

Its his fault if he (a CEO) cant keep his mouth shut. It's not that he says he wants money its how he does it that makes him seem like the kind of person who will ruin games for money and that is why as someone who buys games I am not happy with him.

lol ya thats it. He ruins games for $$$$. Because bad games = profit? Is this why everyone hates him? Because he makes gamers make gamers sound like complete idiots? Durr we gamers made Activision top dog but they ruin games so we must all be morons. But lets blame the CEO instead so we don't feel stupid or feel like liars. And then we can all buy the next COD and help it break a new record guilt free. Hooray. Cuz Bobby did it.

1. Rush CoD out every year with a two year development time.
2. ????
3. Profit

 

[squid5580]

While i dont like Kotick this is a good attitude for a company to have, even if he only believes this because he can make more profit out of it.

I find 'xxx console only' games just tend to piss off a lot of people.

Is there any better reason for a ceo of a company to believe that? He does run a company not the toyshop at the north pole. What is with "they make games so they shouldn't worry about profits" mentality?? What makes developing games any different from any other company?

It doesn't however there's a difference between making a profit and just being a douche about it.

Well then try focusing your anger at the people who deserve it. And that is not Bobby. That is the "journalists" who insist on quoting him everytime he says it like it is. Cuz I really hate to be the one to say it but a CEO of any company anywhere saying "I want to make money" is not newsworthy. And they are being far more douchey by using these catchy headlines to villify Bobby to get more hits which equals ad revenue.

Oh crap I meant to say don't look at the man behind the curtain.

Its his fault if he (a CEO) cant keep his mouth shut. It's not that he says he wants money its how he does it that makes him seem like the kind of person who will ruin games for money and that is why as someone who buys games I am not happy with him.

lol ya thats it. He ruins games for $$$$. Because bad games = profit? Is this why everyone hates him? Because he makes gamers make gamers sound like complete idiots? Durr we gamers made Activision top dog but they ruin games so we must all be morons. But lets blame the CEO instead so we don't feel stupid or feel like liars. And then we can all buy the next COD and help it break a new record guilt free. Hooray. Cuz Bobby did it.

1. Rush CoD out every year with a two year development time.
2. ????
3. Profit

???? = millions of people buy it every year (just like sports games I might add)

 

[JoshGod]

While i dont like Kotick this is a good attitude for a company to have, even if he only believes this because he can make more profit out of it.

I find 'xxx console only' games just tend to piss off a lot of people.

Is there any better reason for a ceo of a company to believe that? He does run a company not the toyshop at the north pole. What is with "they make games so they shouldn't worry about profits" mentality?? What makes developing games any different from any other company?

It doesn't however there's a difference between making a profit and just being a douche about it.

Well then try focusing your anger at the people who deserve it. And that is not Bobby. That is the "journalists" who insist on quoting him everytime he says it like it is. Cuz I really hate to be the one to say it but a CEO of any company anywhere saying "I want to make money" is not newsworthy. And they are being far more douchey by using these catchy headlines to villify Bobby to get more hits which equals ad revenue.

Oh crap I meant to say don't look at the man behind the curtain.

Its his fault if he (a CEO) cant keep his mouth shut. It's not that he says he wants money its how he does it that makes him seem like the kind of person who will ruin games for money and that is why as someone who buys games I am not happy with him.

lol ya thats it. He ruins games for $$$$. Because bad games = profit? Is this why everyone hates him? Because he makes gamers make gamers sound like complete idiots? Durr we gamers made Activision top dog but they ruin games so we must all be morons. But lets blame the CEO instead so we don't feel stupid or feel like liars. And then we can all buy the next COD and help it break a new record guilt free. Hooray. Cuz Bobby did it.

1. Rush CoD out every year with a two year development time.
2. ????
3. Profit

???? = millions of people buy it every year (just like sports games I might add)

Obviously, i was making a joke and responding to the bad games = profit sentance.

 

[JoshGod]

And? They are happy with it. Acti is happy with the money it makes. Other games still get made which makes me happy. Video game "journalists" are happy cuz they get to phone in the weekly "Bobby said he likes profiting from making games" article. Bobby makes the industry go round. He is a hero.

Were the last two sentances jokes? Other games get made, but CoD still has an influence on other games.

 

[Josh123914]

While i dont like Kotick this is a good attitude for a company to have, even if he only believes this because he can make more profit out of it.

I find 'xxx console only' games just tend to piss off a lot of people.

Is there any better reason for a ceo of a company to believe that? He does run a company not the toyshop at the north pole. What is with "they make games so they shouldn't worry about profits" mentality?? What makes developing games any different from any other company?

It doesn't however there's a difference between making a profit and just being a douche about it.

Well then try focusing your anger at the people who deserve it. And that is not Bobby. That is the "journalists" who insist on quoting him everytime he says it like it is. Cuz I really hate to be the one to say it but a CEO of any company anywhere saying "I want to make money" is not newsworthy. And they are being far more douchey by using these catchy headlines to villify Bobby to get more hits which equals ad revenue.

Oh crap I meant to say don't look at the man behind the curtain.

Its his fault if he (a CEO) cant keep his mouth shut. It's not that he says he wants money its how he does it that makes him seem like the kind of person who will ruin games for money and that is why as someone who buys games I am not happy with him.

lol ya thats it. He ruins games for $$$$. Because bad games = profit? Is this why everyone hates him? Because he makes gamers make gamers sound like complete idiots? Durr we gamers made Activision top dog but they ruin games so we must all be morons. But lets blame the CEO instead so we don't feel stupid or feel like liars. And then we can all buy the next COD and help it break a new record guilt free. Hooray. Cuz Bobby did it.

1. Rush CoD out every year with a two year development time.
2. ????
3. Profit

???? = millions of people buy it every year (just like sports games I might add)

exactly, COD is basically the Madden of Shooters

 

[squid5580]

And? They are happy with it. Acti is happy with the money it makes. Other games still get made which makes me happy. Video game "journalists" are happy cuz they get to phone in the weekly "Bobby said he likes profiting from making games" article. Bobby makes the industry go round. He is a hero.

Were the last two sentances jokes? Other games get made, but CoD still has an influence on other games.

Well I am sure he is a hero to game "journalists" who get to use the old "Bobby wants Acti to be profitable derp" weekly articles instead of you know having to do real work.

And you can try to point fingers every which way but the bottom line is gamers set the rules. Gamers have the power. Gamers are the reason COD is popular and influencing other games and blah blah blah. So if anything is the real problem with the way things are it's gamers not 1 guy in a suit who runs 1 company. The sooner we stop buying into this Bobby is the antichrist propaganda the sooner we can actually start lookin for solutions. Because sooner or later Bobby will be replaced with some other jackass in a suit who will be caught saying the same things. And all the rage will be focused on him. And that will not solve 1 goddamn thing. Except let gamers feel better about themselves by raging against "the man".

 

[The-Epicly-Named-Man]

Um, if he doesnt favor any consoles, why does he a) only mention Nintendo and Microsoft and b) release COD map packs on the X-box first?

 

[Zipa]

Wait, wasn't the PS3 version rated the highest? i only played the PC and PS3 version myself and i thought the PS3 version was the shit.

I know a few console users that have used my PC to play BOPS and they all pretty much said that the difference was incredible as it seemed that the PC ran the game much smoother and better than the consoles.

The PC version crashed for me too many times and when i try to change the settings, the screen flashes yellow, dunno what the hell is going on.

Could be a hardware thing, though for some stupid reason the graphics default to the absolutely retarded setting which lags you to the moon. It was even worse at launch when trayarch ''forgot'' to tell the PC version that PCs have multi core processors generally so you ended up playing on what was essentially single core.

 

[Hyper-space]

Wait, wasn't the PS3 version rated the highest? i only played the PC and PS3 version myself and i thought the PS3 version was the shit.

I know a few console users that have used my PC to play BOPS and they all pretty much said that the difference was incredible as it seemed that the PC ran the game much smoother and better than the consoles.

The PC version crashed for me too many times and when i try to change the settings, the screen flashes yellow, dunno what the hell is going on.

Could be a hardware thing, though for some stupid reason the graphics default to the absolutely retarded setting which lags you to the moon. It was even worse at launch when trayarch ''forgot'' to tell the PC version that PCs have multi core processors generally so you ended up playing on what was essentially single core.

Probably, i am not fluent in techno-babble so when they tell me to go beyond just changing the settings in the options-menu, i get confused.