Activision Is Platform Agnostic, Says Kotick

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JoshGod said:
squid5580 said:
JoshGod said:
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And? They are happy with it. Acti is happy with the money it makes. Other games still get made which makes me happy. Video game "journalists" are happy cuz they get to phone in the weekly "Bobby said he likes profiting from making games" article. Bobby makes the industry go round. He is a hero.
Were the last two sentances jokes? Other games get made, but CoD still has an influence on other games.
Well I am sure he is a hero to game "journalists" who get to use the old "Bobby wants Acti to be profitable derp" weekly articles instead of you know having to do real work.

And you can try to point fingers every which way but the bottom line is gamers set the rules. Gamers have the power. Gamers are the reason COD is popular and influencing other games and blah blah blah. So if anything is the real problem with the way things are it's gamers not 1 guy in a suit who runs 1 company. The sooner we stop buying into this Bobby is the antichrist propaganda the sooner we can actually start lookin for solutions. Because sooner or later Bobby will be replaced with some other jackass in a suit who will be caught saying the same things. And all the rage will be focused on him. And that will not solve 1 goddamn thing. Except let gamers feel better about themselves by raging against "the man".
The solution is simple, as time goes on all the people who were introduced to CoD will get more experience with games and will get into other games instead of a yearly cycle of CoD and whatever Fifa, PES or madden etc is best. Eventually they will demand better games, and all will be good until the next CoD... Also if bobby is a jackass i'm gunna moan about him, it makes me feel better and it may not be productive but i'm on an internet forum, i was never here to be productive.
It isn't your productivity (or lack thereof) that is the problem here. You aren't the one that has any real influence in the industry ;)
 

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JDKJ said:
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JDKJ said:
That's what I suspect may be the problem. That the customers somehow see themselves as the objective of the business' existence. They're not. They're only the means by which the business gets to its objective. As long as they continue to provide that means, the business, truth be told, could care less about the customers.
Suspect may be the problem really?. Do you know why companies put a shit lot of money into PR departments and give away free things with products. It not because they want to get rid of money its because you need to keep your customers happy or they go else where that makes them lose business.

Thinking like yours scares the crap out of me as its just seems to be "i don?t care if a company treats me like total crap as long as its doing something we should be thankful as we are only paying our hard earned money for things".Customers do not need to buy there stuff when they have competitors in the same market while businesses need customers to stay in businesses.
Yeah, because the market for game consoles is just full of and overflowing with competing sellers. All three of them.
I was commenting on the whole does activision only need to worry about it profits not the customers themselves.So in that demographic Kotick being a douche will send business else where and in that activsion has alot of competitors happy to take the customers off them.Also with activison spreading it net it will be competing with even more competitors
 

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JoshGod said:
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JoshGod said:
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While i dont like Kotick this is a good attitude for a company to have, even if he only believes this because he can make more profit out of it.

I find 'xxx console only' games just tend to piss off a lot of people.
Is there any better reason for a ceo of a company to believe that? He does run a company not the toyshop at the north pole. What is with "they make games so they shouldn't worry about profits" mentality?? What makes developing games any different from any other company?
It doesn't however there's a difference between making a profit and just being a douche about it.
I'd find it more reassuring if the CEO of a gaming company had some interest in the field beyond squeezing as much cash out of it as possible, Kotick is a man who had stated he wanted to take the fun out of gaming (or words to those effect) he either utterly dismisses his customers or likes inciting hatred from them. So yeah i have a problem with his attitude.
I'm surprised he is stupid enough to say what does being Activisions CEO. I would guess he dismisses his customers as his attitude hasn't stopped CoD selling like crack cakes. Then again it could also be trolling, my god if it is trolling that is just brilliant my hat goes of to you, well if i was wearing one it would.
Wow, i just never thought of that. Kotick as a troll....it makes awful sense and yeah if thats what it is then well, hats off to the guy indeed
 

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Well, nice opinion to have, and no platform favoritism is nice... but then, on the other hand, you're Bobby Kotick. so Shutup!
 

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squid5580 said:
JoshGod said:
squid5580 said:
JoshGod said:
squid5580 said:
And? They are happy with it. Acti is happy with the money it makes. Other games still get made which makes me happy. Video game "journalists" are happy cuz they get to phone in the weekly "Bobby said he likes profiting from making games" article. Bobby makes the industry go round. He is a hero.
Were the last two sentances jokes? Other games get made, but CoD still has an influence on other games.
Well I am sure he is a hero to game "journalists" who get to use the old "Bobby wants Acti to be profitable derp" weekly articles instead of you know having to do real work.

And you can try to point fingers every which way but the bottom line is gamers set the rules. Gamers have the power. Gamers are the reason COD is popular and influencing other games and blah blah blah. So if anything is the real problem with the way things are it's gamers not 1 guy in a suit who runs 1 company. The sooner we stop buying into this Bobby is the antichrist propaganda the sooner we can actually start lookin for solutions. Because sooner or later Bobby will be replaced with some other jackass in a suit who will be caught saying the same things. And all the rage will be focused on him. And that will not solve 1 goddamn thing. Except let gamers feel better about themselves by raging against "the man".
The solution is simple, as time goes on all the people who were introduced to CoD will get more experience with games and will get into other games instead of a yearly cycle of CoD and whatever Fifa, PES or madden etc is best. Eventually they will demand better games, and all will be good until the next CoD... Also if bobby is a jackass i'm gunna moan about him, it makes me feel better and it may not be productive but i'm on an internet forum, i was never here to be productive.
It isn't your productivity (or lack thereof) that is the problem here. You aren't the one that has any real influence in the industry ;)
Then why can't you leave Joshy alone!?
 

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Denamic said:
I don't think 'agnostic' means what you think it means.
No, he's got it right. Pretty much anyway. Check the third definition here: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/agnostic#Adjective
 

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Denamic said:
I don't think 'agnostic' means what you think it means.
No, he's got it right. Pretty much anyway. Check the third definition here: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/agnostic#Adjective
No, that's quite the stretch.
Software and a corporation are not exactly in the same category.
Besides, that's like a really weak tertiary definition anyway.
Probably just some sort of tech jargon that popped up at some point.
Kind of like how MMO jargon comes up with new words and expressions and use old ones in new ways.
You won't find it in an actual dictionary.
 

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JoshGod said:
squid5580 said:
JoshGod said:
squid5580 said:
JoshGod said:
squid5580 said:
And? They are happy with it. Acti is happy with the money it makes. Other games still get made which makes me happy. Video game "journalists" are happy cuz they get to phone in the weekly "Bobby said he likes profiting from making games" article. Bobby makes the industry go round. He is a hero.
Were the last two sentances jokes? Other games get made, but CoD still has an influence on other games.
Well I am sure he is a hero to game "journalists" who get to use the old "Bobby wants Acti to be profitable derp" weekly articles instead of you know having to do real work.

And you can try to point fingers every which way but the bottom line is gamers set the rules. Gamers have the power. Gamers are the reason COD is popular and influencing other games and blah blah blah. So if anything is the real problem with the way things are it's gamers not 1 guy in a suit who runs 1 company. The sooner we stop buying into this Bobby is the antichrist propaganda the sooner we can actually start lookin for solutions. Because sooner or later Bobby will be replaced with some other jackass in a suit who will be caught saying the same things. And all the rage will be focused on him. And that will not solve 1 goddamn thing. Except let gamers feel better about themselves by raging against "the man".
The solution is simple, as time goes on all the people who were introduced to CoD will get more experience with games and will get into other games instead of a yearly cycle of CoD and whatever Fifa, PES or madden etc is best. Eventually they will demand better games, and all will be good until the next CoD... Also if bobby is a jackass i'm gunna moan about him, it makes me feel better and it may not be productive but i'm on an internet forum, i was never here to be productive.
It isn't your productivity (or lack thereof) that is the problem here. You aren't the one that has any real influence in the industry ;)
Then why can't you leave Joshy alone!?
Awww muffin.... I is sorry. I didn't mean to make you cry.
 

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DrunkWithPower said:
DTWolfwood said:
anyone else thinks this is a most obvious statement?

Assassin Xaero said:
Bullshit. I've heard (never wasted the money on) the PC version of MW2 and BLops were horrid console ports, and if they don't play favorites, why does 360 always get everything first? Hmm?
Activision plays favorites to whoever gives them more money. Microsoft pays for the timed exclusives :D

and its probably the cheapest to develop on the 360 first and port it, than to waste money co-developing for each platform. Highly doubt its due to favoritism tbh. But hey you could be right too ^-^
I think you have a point the 360 is cheap to dev on first. I disagree with the waste of money co-deving for each platform. In the long run it would probably make Activision more money because it'll show compassion (or at least the illusion of compassion) for each video game community. Then again, it's all about making the fast cash.
unfortunately there is no way to prove that co-developing for multiplatforms will actually increase sales. The return on investment is more than likely not high enough to justify it, projections wise. Then again to do that mean they actually care about the product, which looking at Guitar Hero they obviously do not. lol
 

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squid5580 said:
JoshGod said:
squid5580 said:
JoshGod said:
squid5580 said:
JoshGod said:
squid5580 said:
And? They are happy with it. Acti is happy with the money it makes. Other games still get made which makes me happy. Video game "journalists" are happy cuz they get to phone in the weekly "Bobby said he likes profiting from making games" article. Bobby makes the industry go round. He is a hero.
Were the last two sentances jokes? Other games get made, but CoD still has an influence on other games.
Well I am sure he is a hero to game "journalists" who get to use the old "Bobby wants Acti to be profitable derp" weekly articles instead of you know having to do real work.

And you can try to point fingers every which way but the bottom line is gamers set the rules. Gamers have the power. Gamers are the reason COD is popular and influencing other games and blah blah blah. So if anything is the real problem with the way things are it's gamers not 1 guy in a suit who runs 1 company. The sooner we stop buying into this Bobby is the antichrist propaganda the sooner we can actually start lookin for solutions. Because sooner or later Bobby will be replaced with some other jackass in a suit who will be caught saying the same things. And all the rage will be focused on him. And that will not solve 1 goddamn thing. Except let gamers feel better about themselves by raging against "the man".
The solution is simple, as time goes on all the people who were introduced to CoD will get more experience with games and will get into other games instead of a yearly cycle of CoD and whatever Fifa, PES or madden etc is best. Eventually they will demand better games, and all will be good until the next CoD... Also if bobby is a jackass i'm gunna moan about him, it makes me feel better and it may not be productive but i'm on an internet forum, i was never here to be productive.
It isn't your productivity (or lack thereof) that is the problem here. You aren't the one that has any real influence in the industry ;)
Then why can't you leave Joshy alone!?
Awww muffin.... I is sorry. I didn't mean to make you cry.
*Whimpers* A muffin would make me feel better.