this is brilliant... i love it when you got thoughts floating round in the back of your head but you can never put them into words properly and then someone else does it for you...
Activision vs. Sony
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I'm of the mind that this was exactly the situation Sony envisioned. Somewhere along the line, the thought "We're Sony, and they'll put up with the trouble to develop for us, because we're Sony" must have crossed a highly-paid mind.Shamus Young said:
Sadly for Sony, thanks to a number of missteps that are entirely their own fault, they're the odd man out.
At the end of the day this is *just* XBOX vs Playstation its not and never really will be MICROSOFT vs SONY as both companies are never going anywhere due to the fact that they have their fingers in so many pies. Yes, Sony has BLU RAY and may well make some royalties from a future XBOX using them. But jesus, is it going to be anymore than the amount of pc's working for sony that have windows and other microsoft apps working on them?
The only people that can lose this battle are the devs and publishers who rely solely on the console brands of these giant corporations so altho activision have made a brave statement ultimatly they are the only ones who have anything to lose.
The only people that can lose this battle are the devs and publishers who rely solely on the console brands of these giant corporations so altho activision have made a brave statement ultimatly they are the only ones who have anything to lose.
Streaming is interesting but not feasible as long as we have these 20gb/month caps in Belgium.
So I do believe we will quickly need a new medium. (PC) games are now put on discs of 6 gb. Some on 2 discs. About time we move on to Blu-Ray for games. And a new medium in a decade. Place for more pretty graphics on these fancy discs! We just need cheap blu-ray drives for our pcs. If a blu-ray reader hit the price of a dvd writer, I'll buy one.
Btw, just how exactly is Sony making money of Blu-Ray? Do player vendors have to pay a sum to Sony? A few pennies on each Blu-Ray movie sold?
So I do believe we will quickly need a new medium. (PC) games are now put on discs of 6 gb. Some on 2 discs. About time we move on to Blu-Ray for games. And a new medium in a decade. Place for more pretty graphics on these fancy discs! We just need cheap blu-ray drives for our pcs. If a blu-ray reader hit the price of a dvd writer, I'll buy one.
Btw, just how exactly is Sony making money of Blu-Ray? Do player vendors have to pay a sum to Sony? A few pennies on each Blu-Ray movie sold?
Blu-Ray won the HD disc format war, but it wasn't really early in that war, and it isn't home free. Now it has to defeat DVD and digital movie distribution/streaming movies (like iTunes movies, Netflix Instant Watch, and on-demand programming from TV service providers).. so far it's not doing very well against DVD, and digital/streaming is just starting to pick up...
They can't keep that up forever, not least because they'll lose business to the ISP's that don't cap. Here in the UK if an ISP contract doesn't have the words 'cheap' and 'unlimited' in it they can forget it, that has to find it's way to the US eventually.Credge said:
The amounts people download are steadily going up and so are the speeds of connections, eventually it will get to a point where movies are easily downloadable for a lot of people. I'm not saying it's going to happen over night but it is happening, five years ago downloading entire games was mostly the preserve of software pirates. Now we have Steam, Direct2drive and co.
Just look at music, in 1995 most people would be pretty skeptical if you'd said by 2005 millions of customers would be downloading 70MB albums as a matter of routine and that CD singles would have almost vanished from the high street.
Saying it won't happen goes against the evidence as I see it. It already is happening, albeit slower than the marketing men would like.
Sure they can, especially since this is something they've recently introduced.fix-the-spade said:
The U.S., as well as most non-China countries (see what I did there?) do not have the infastructure to support this.
Further, there is a difference between an album (100MB) and a movie (20GB). You could fit about 204 albums in the space that one movie would take up, give or take depending on the size of the albums and the size of the movie. China doesn't even have that infastructure yet, and they have some of the best infastructure in the world. I think South Korea might have better, but I'm not sure.
Hmmmm I've always wondered why Sony kept insisting that they made the platform hard to develop for on purpose, and yours is definitley the most reasonable. Though I do disagree about the Blu-ray thing making Sony profit for decades. Hopefully something better than Blu-ray comes along in the next 5-10 years or so.
PEOPLE! quit your bitching about the price of the ps3. its only 100 dollers above a 360. the price keeps going down and down! they are expected to make a price drop in december or something. i am sick of hearing people complain its to expensive when its really not as expensive as they make it seem. how come the users, the people in the forums, the comunity are the only ones that support the ps3. gametrailers is too biased to even go into. one that really got to me was whrn G4 reviewed kz2 and they started off with this sentance.
"good news, ps3 fans now have something to buy other than heavenly sword figures and anti depressents".
fricken a. why are the big journalists and companys so hateful? why? if you have 1 good reason, please ime aaalll ears! The ps3 has become a force to be reckond with over the years with AAA titles like killzone 2 and inFAMOUS. just stop bitching and accept that its just as good as 360.
"good news, ps3 fans now have something to buy other than heavenly sword figures and anti depressents".
fricken a. why are the big journalists and companys so hateful? why? if you have 1 good reason, please ime aaalll ears! The ps3 has become a force to be reckond with over the years with AAA titles like killzone 2 and inFAMOUS. just stop bitching and accept that its just as good as 360.
Actually, the PS3 has one of the worst launches/starts that is the #1 reason it's still doing bad today.Shamus Young said:
All this generation is really is a learning period for everyone. Sony to learn to be more humble. And Microsoft to be more patient. Hopefully they'll both learn from thier mistakes so thier next systems will be all the better.
And I wouldn't be surprised if Microsoft went with HD-DVD instead of BluRay. Sure it would keep thier system from playing movies (unless they ported them over themself), but it really doesn't matter what format thier games are on. Still would be giving Sony the upper hand, but they've done that thier whole (console) life and still are in really good shape.
And I wouldn't be surprised if Microsoft went with HD-DVD instead of BluRay. Sure it would keep thier system from playing movies (unless they ported them over themself), but it really doesn't matter what format thier games are on. Still would be giving Sony the upper hand, but they've done that thier whole (console) life and still are in really good shape.
I couldn't help but pretend to think you were referring to how someone got shot over a PS3 on the day of it's release.Shamus Young said:
That cunning and cutthroat business idea really is gold. Teaches me the lesson that if something stupid was not thought up by stupid people, then you're not seeing it.
I still don't think people understand. The PS3 is like a gossip machine. It is like Brangelina. Everyone is talking about it because it is a *****. It's gonna have a long shelf life because people just can't stop talking about it. 360 is lukewarm in terms of gossip. There isn't anything else coming out for it that is exclusive or that I would really want to play. I have pretty much forgotten all about it.
I can see Microsoft going for a cartridge system using flash memory SSD sort of thing.
Also nice to see someone talking sense about ps3 dev costs so the fan boys can be quite and except the truth.
Also nice to see someone talking sense about ps3 dev costs so the fan boys can be quite and except the truth.
I'd like to point out, that the PS3 is alot cheaper for them to make now than it was. It costs them $400 per unit.
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