Activision's Evil Rep is Unfair Says Spider-Man Dev

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iniudan said:
At least he has not show up has a weeping angel yet, that would be just make Silent Hills look like a perfectly healthy family vacation spot.
Good idea. I'll get right on that...
 

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Huh, that picture's probably gonna give me nightmares for awhile. Also, an Activision that isn't evil, is an Activision where I can fly my pig to work and ride my giant centipede home at night
 

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whiteblood said:
Their name was Troika Games...


Their name was Troika Games...


Their name was Troika Games...
And their name is now Obsidian Entertainment,or maybe just all the guys that are working on Wasteland 2 atm.
 

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I don't think it's hurt activision that someone finally realised that kotick should not under any circumstances be allowed within a 100 yards of a recording device.
 

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To be fair though, we've never really claimed Activision was bad to its employees (IW debacle notwithstanding). It's always been about how they treat consumers.
 

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Lumber Barber said:
Hating on Activision is stupid. I respect Activision. While EA goes around being a cartoon villain, Activision keeps making a shitton of money without making huge controversial moves and pretty much bullshitting the media to hate Gamers.
Bobby Kotick isn't an evil man. He's just a good businessman.
The only reason that Activision keeps making a "shitton of money" is because they keep releasing the same game every year, and people are stupid enough to buy it. Check out there current catalog. There isn't any other game/series even worth mentioning.

The best part is they know that the COD well is drying up. Now they are trying to repeat the process with the yet unnamed i.p. with Bungie.

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Let me also add that I don't hate any publisher. I just can't justify giving my hard earned money to someone for something that I already have.

On a side note I am not that big of a fan of EA either. Between the studios that they have laid to rest, and there horribly thought out Origin service, I don't find myself giving them much of my cash either.
 

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T3hSource said:
And their name is now Obsidian Entertainment,or maybe just all the guys that are working on Wasteland 2 atm.
The Troika were Tim Cain, Leonard Boyarsky and Jason Anderson. All of them work at different companies now and none are running their own company.
 

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I know a few guys that work for Beenox (I live 10 minutes away from them), and while I can't say I know the inner workings of the company, they've told me the work environment is great. Sure, they sometimes get crunch time like everyone else in the industry, but overtime is paid and management friendly.

Though the guys I know are in QA, I don't know about the dev side.

I mean, sure, they might not have the most impressive game resume, but at least they're good employers, which puts them far above many, many other game companies.
 

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Is Bobby Kotick "evil" in the traditional sense of the word? No.

Is he so hilariously inept at his job that he's garnered the hatred of millions of strangers? Yes. Which is why he needs to be managing a Quizno's franchise somewhere quiet where he can't fuck anything else up with his stupidity.
 

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Lumber Barber said:
Yep, And they will keep on making loads of dosh. That's why I respect them, they know how to get the best with minimal effort, something that mankind is trying more and more to master.
I can understand your position.

I just loath the fact that companies just want to make money. To me money is just a tool. To them, it is a way of keeping score. I would rather they tried to further gaming, and make more interesting things for me to play than just try to reap as much cash as they can. It is possible for a company to make a good profit, treat there employes well, and make great products. It is just harder to do, and there profits margin isn't as high. Why put work into something you can be proud of when I can just do the bare minimum and make more?
 

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Aiddon said:
After the bombshells of what was going on with Acti in the Infinity Ward scandal, I'd have to disagree. They're definitely a bunch of greedy, ego maniacal control freaks.
Nah man, it's just cool to hate. For example:

Kargathia said:
The only problem, however, is that it's much more fun to blame big, evil, corporate overlords for everything. Life just wouldn't be the same without those little pleasures.
I rest my case. Haters gonna hate.

Anyway, on the topic: This is interesting, but I'm not sure it really means much. People usually speak well when they're actively on the inside, and only really go critical after the fact. I mean, is this guy going to really say "we hate Activision and how they keep publishing our awful Spider-Man games?"
Would be interesting if he did. I mean, if he says they are great 'cause they keep letting him make those piles of fail and ass and Activision takes it like a man, point proven. If they fire him, they'll can the games and we're all better off.
 

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Emiscary said:
Is Bobby Kotick "evil" in the traditional sense of the word? No.

Is he so hilariously inept at his job that he's garnered the hatred of millions of strangers? Yes. Which is why he needs to be managing a Quizno's franchise somewhere quiet where he can't fuck anything else up with his stupidity.
If he was inept at his job, he wouldn't be rich.

You might dislike him, but he sure as shit did something right--and he did it all the way to the bank.
 

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I have no love for Activision (or EA, for that matter), but let's be realistic about one thing: gamers are extremely fickle. It takes next to nothing to sway them to put companies on their "love" or "shit" lists. Any company, in the eyes of gamers, can be the crowning apotheosis of the perfect gaming company one minute, and in the very next minute (and I mean that literally) be the absolute shit-house of the gaming industry, hated by all. All it takes for this flip-flop is to give them a few goodies to pacify the rage or do any one thing that causes even a minor inconvenience that stokes the rage. There is just no nuance of a middle ground, and there is no way to actually please gamers, because, more than half the time, they really have no clue what it is that they want themselves.
 

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Grey Day for Elcia said:
Emiscary said:
Is Bobby Kotick "evil" in the traditional sense of the word? No.

Is he so hilariously inept at his job that he's garnered the hatred of millions of strangers? Yes. Which is why he needs to be managing a Quizno's franchise somewhere quiet where he can't fuck anything else up with his stupidity.
If he was inept at his job, he wouldn't be rich.

You might dislike him, but he sure as shit did something right--and he did it all the way to the bank.
That's always the interesting thing about gamers' opinions. Gamers' judgement of a person's competence often skewed by self-centered criteria (for example, how many free goodies is the person giving away) rather than more objective measures of actual success, such as the growth and viability of the company the person is managing.
 

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Grey Day for Elcia said:
Emiscary said:
Is Bobby Kotick "evil" in the traditional sense of the word? No.

Is he so hilariously inept at his job that he's garnered the hatred of millions of strangers? Yes. Which is why he needs to be managing a Quizno's franchise somewhere quiet where he can't fuck anything else up with his stupidity.
If he was inept at his job, he wouldn't be rich.

You might dislike him, but he sure as shit did something right--and he did it all the way to the bank.
If his job description was: "Have lots of money."

Than yeah, I'd consider him a phenom.

Considering its his job to manage & direct a gaming company's future- I don't consider him much besides bad at it.
 

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Emiscary said:
Grey Day for Elcia said:
Emiscary said:
Is Bobby Kotick "evil" in the traditional sense of the word? No.

Is he so hilariously inept at his job that he's garnered the hatred of millions of strangers? Yes. Which is why he needs to be managing a Quizno's franchise somewhere quiet where he can't fuck anything else up with his stupidity.
If he was inept at his job, he wouldn't be rich.

You might dislike him, but he sure as shit did something right--and he did it all the way to the bank.
If his job description was: "Have lots of money."

Than yeah, I'd consider him a phenom.

Considering its his job to manage & direct a gaming company's future- I don't consider him much besides bad at it.
He is doing a good job at it. Know why? Money, money, money. Dislike him all you want, the games are still selling. Same with EA; everyone and their dog loves to call them a terrible company, but boy do they know their shit. You don't get to the top by being bad at your job.
 

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Grey Day for Elcia said:
Emiscary said:
Grey Day for Elcia said:
Emiscary said:
Is Bobby Kotick "evil" in the traditional sense of the word? No.

Is he so hilariously inept at his job that he's garnered the hatred of millions of strangers? Yes. Which is why he needs to be managing a Quizno's franchise somewhere quiet where he can't fuck anything else up with his stupidity.
If he was inept at his job, he wouldn't be rich.

You might dislike him, but he sure as shit did something right--and he did it all the way to the bank.
If his job description was: "Have lots of money."

Than yeah, I'd consider him a phenom.

Considering its his job to manage & direct a gaming company's future- I don't consider him much besides bad at it.
He is doing a good job at it. Know why? Money, money, money. Dislike him all you want, the games are still selling. Same with EA; everyone and their dog loves to call them a terrible company, but boy do they know their shit. You don't get to the top by being bad at your job.
If you think intelligence is a prerequisite for success than you've never heard of George Bush Senior's biggest let down. :p
 

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Fronzel said:
Lumber Barber said:
Odin311 said:
Lumber Barber said:
Hating on Activision is stupid. I respect Activision. While EA goes around being a cartoon villain, Activision keeps making a shitton of money without making huge controversial moves and pretty much bullshitting the media to hate Gamers.
Bobby Kotick isn't an evil man. He's just a good businessman.
The only reason that Activision keeps making a "shitton of money" is because they keep releasing the same game every year, and people are stupid enough to buy it. Check out there current catalog. There isn't any other game/series even worth mentioning.

The best part is they know that the COD well is drying up. Now they are trying to repeat the process with the yet unnamed i.p. with Bungie.
Yep, And they will keep on making loads of dosh. That's why I respect them, they know how to get the best with minimal effort, something that mankind is trying more and more to master.
I don't understand why you respect the institutionalization of mediocrity.
Rofl. Thank you for that, you made my day.
 

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I dunno. I don't feel like they've done anything too dickish for a good long while. Maybe because EA is flinging out shit left and right, but they've seemed pretty tame.