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Still Life

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TehIrishSoap said:
How the hell could they possibly cancel Guitar Hero, and True Crime? And United Front studios for that matter! Call Of Duty seems to be the only thing giving Activison a major profit. Anyone smell a mass boycott?
You're leaving out titles developed by Blizzard.
 

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When they have record sales selling the same game reskinned to look barely different (and still is unbalanced) it's kind of hard to go make some other game.
 

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How dare they not keep beating their already beaten to death franchises into a bloody stain on the pavement. Those evil bastards.

In other news Activision announces sequels to their already beaten to death franchises. Escapist forums crushed under the weight of new "Activision is evil" threads.
 

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Wait? People liked True Crime? I played the LA one, was not impressed at all. As for the Guitar Hero franchise what can they add except more songs?
It's good business to trim the fat.
 

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These games were no longer profitable. At all. Seriously they cost more money than they made.

How is that unreasonable?
 

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Still Life said:
TehIrishSoap said:
How the hell could they possibly cancel Guitar Hero, and True Crime? And United Front studios for that matter! Call Of Duty seems to be the only thing giving Activison a major profit. Anyone smell a mass boycott?
You're leaving out titles developed by Blizzard.
Well of course. Just because Blizzard can sell you a $25 mount for a game you pay full retail for + expansions + 15 bucks a month to play doesn't make them greedy fucks. That is only reserved for companies that produce more than 1 game a decade and actually makes games without a number after the name
 

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Activision, one of the oldest of the videogame companies, and now it's finally shown the depths their villainy.
 

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Yeah, because yet another fucking Guitar hero game is exactly what the world needs, right? it's not like Activision have anything better to make than yet more fun karaoke-esque games that are simply cut-and-paste remakes of previous games with some new visuals, one ancillary bullshitty feature added in, and a new song list?
That's sounds a lot like the Call of Duty series.
 

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Cancelling any of those does not make them douchebags.

No, that has to do with the unpaid royalties they still own to Infinity Ward, constant unapologetic money greed at the expense of customer entertainment (yes, that's every company ever, but Activision is the only one with the audacity to state that as their goals outright), their closing down studios they just don't need and leaving all of the devs from those studios without jobs.
 

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Captain Placeholder said:
Guitar Hero - Failing after the third game.
Personally I think it was failing after 4 since 4 was when they introduced the entire band. BUT they have always been chasing after Rock Band once that came out. Rock Band never actually released any games that weren't adding something new to the mix or keeping them in peoples minds.
Rock Band = introduced entire band
Rock Band 2 = better version of 1 and came out around the time of World Tour
Beatles Rock Band = Added harmonies
Rock Band 3 = added the Key-tar

*Edit*
Guitar Hero-Introduced the world to music games as they are now
Guitar Hero 2,3 = track packs
Guitar Hero World Tour aka GH 4= Whole band
Guitar Hero 5-now = track packs

I havent picked up a GH since WT because I really didn't want to just buy new tracks for full price and have to pay for ones i didnt like.
 

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squid5580 said:
Still Life said:
TehIrishSoap said:
How the hell could they possibly cancel Guitar Hero, and True Crime? And United Front studios for that matter! Call Of Duty seems to be the only thing giving Activison a major profit. Anyone smell a mass boycott?
You're leaving out titles developed by Blizzard.
Well of course. Just because Blizzard can sell you a $25 mount for a game you pay full retail for + expansions + 15 bucks a month to play doesn't make them greedy fucks. That is only reserved for companies that produce more than 1 game a decade and actually makes games without a number after the name
They invariably keep doing something right, because Blizzard keeps rolling in the bucks with their titles. Besides, there are plenty of other great dev teams out there putting out quality products, so I don't see this as a problem.

I take issue with the OP's usage of the adjective 'evil'. That's a very strong word, with fundamental implications; I think its use in describing Activision is downright absurd. Activision simply a company looking to make profits, and that is the very essence of capitalism. Instead of evil, I would classify them as indifferent to the ethics of the publisher bashing gamer.

If this is such an issue for the OP, then maybe they should outline how and what they would do when publishing games, instead of indulging in what has now become a fashion amongst gamers.

Seriously: if 'hard done by' gamers want their opinions to matter, then they need to start constructing proper and viable arguments. This is much more effective then taking to a message board and spouting hate.
 

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Still Life said:
squid5580 said:
Still Life said:
TehIrishSoap said:
How the hell could they possibly cancel Guitar Hero, and True Crime? And United Front studios for that matter! Call Of Duty seems to be the only thing giving Activison a major profit. Anyone smell a mass boycott?
You're leaving out titles developed by Blizzard.
Well of course. Just because Blizzard can sell you a $25 mount for a game you pay full retail for + expansions + 15 bucks a month to play doesn't make them greedy fucks. That is only reserved for companies that produce more than 1 game a decade and actually makes games without a number after the name
They invariably keep doing something right, because Blizzard keeps rolling in the bucks with their titles. Besides, there are plenty of other great dev teams out there putting out quality products, so I don't see this as a problem.

I take issue with the OP's usage of the adjective 'evil'. That's a very strong word, with fundamental implications; I think its use in describing Activision is downright absurd. Activision simply a company looking to make profits, and that is the very essence of capitalism. Instead of evil, I would classify them as indifferent to the ethics of the publisher bashing gamer.

If this is such an issue for the OP, then maybe they should outline how and what they would do when publishing games, instead of indulging in what has now become a fashion amongst gamers.

Seriously: if 'hard done by' gamers want their opinions to matter, then they need to start constructing proper and viable arguments. This is much more effective then taking to a message board and spouting hate.
Well Blizzard has WoW which is a money printing machine. But that is neither here nor there. Activision is evil because it is run by Bobby Kotick who has made no bones about running a company like a company. Destroying all those dreams of video game development of being a job filed with dancing unicorns and cotton candy. OMG video games are fun so making them should be ...NOT!! That makes Acti evil. Blizzard does what I describe and they are golden to the industry and the perfect son. It is ridiculous. It is just proof of the stupidity of these "Acti is evil derp" threads.
 

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I'm not sorry to see Guitar Hero go, but i've been boycotting Activision for quite a while now. Unfortunately, that boycott applies to Blizzard as well, which is why I have not gotten Starcraft 2, Cataclysm, and probably won't get Diablo 3 either.
 

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The world of business works in the gaming world too.
Guitar Hero - doing crap? Drop it. It's like with anything else in the competitive world.

Yes, Activision are dick heads, but they do have a good business head on their shoulder. Whether people think it's "ethical" or not.
 

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FamoFunk said:
The world of business works in the gaming world too.
Guitar Hero - doing crap? Drop it. It's like with anything else in the competitive world.

Yes, Activision are dick heads, but they do have a good business head on their shoulder. Whether people think it's "ethical" or not.
I would question how bleeding everything dry with minimal creativity is showing a good business head.

Look at how Valve have advanced in 7/8 years by being good (both morally and in terms of quality).


EA's turn-around in the last few years has also meant they've secured a lot of today's biggest titles, through distribution (EA Partner) or serving as a direct publisher.

If they only had Call of Duty (and let's face it, ignoring Blizzard, that's what's happening right now), best selling game or not, Activision would not be in a particularly comfortable place. As luck for them would have it, they have WoW.
 

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Woodsey said:
FamoFunk said:
The world of business works in the gaming world too.
Guitar Hero - doing crap? Drop it. It's like with anything else in the competitive world.

Yes, Activision are dick heads, but they do have a good business head on their shoulder. Whether people think it's "ethical" or not.
I would question how bleeding everything dry with minimal creativity is showing a good business head.

Look at how Valve have advanced in 7/8 years by being good (both morally and in terms of quality).


EA's turn-around in the last few years has also meant they've secured a lot of today's biggest titles, through distribution (EA Partner) or serving as a direct publisher.

If they only had Call of Duty (and let's face it, ignoring Blizzard, that's what's happening right now), best selling game or not, Activision would not be in a particularly comfortable place. As luck for them would have it, they have WoW.
The fact they have CoD and WoW makes me think they really couldn't give a shit about anything else.
As long as they're making profit somewhere, they don't give a damn where or what it's from.
 

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Activision has now adapted the

EA business plan. Make 3 games over and over every year. Do not take chances, let the up and comers burn...
 

Woodsey

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FamoFunk said:
Woodsey said:
FamoFunk said:
The world of business works in the gaming world too.
Guitar Hero - doing crap? Drop it. It's like with anything else in the competitive world.

Yes, Activision are dick heads, but they do have a good business head on their shoulder. Whether people think it's "ethical" or not.
I would question how bleeding everything dry with minimal creativity is showing a good business head.

Look at how Valve have advanced in 7/8 years by being good (both morally and in terms of quality).


EA's turn-around in the last few years has also meant they've secured a lot of today's biggest titles, through distribution (EA Partner) or serving as a direct publisher.

If they only had Call of Duty (and let's face it, ignoring Blizzard, that's what's happening right now), best selling game or not, Activision would not be in a particularly comfortable place. As luck for them would have it, they have WoW.
The fact they have CoD and WoW makes me think they really couldn't give a shit about anything else.
As long as they're making profit somewhere, they don't give a damn where or what it's from.
They've certainly not tried to hide that - I'm just saying, in the long run, better business sense, to me, would to have good community relations and sustainable franchises, as well as teams with fresh ideas.

Better to be in second place (and making millions), and still be around in 15-20 years.