I can tell you this much, she doesn't look traumatized. If anything, she learned from it. She learned you can't kill those you disagree with.
Adorable 3 Year-Old Experiences Harsh Justice in Skyrim
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That's the thing people need to realize here. She didn't start crying, she didn't look upset, she didn't even comment on the blood, she just looked surprised about the consequences of her actions, deduced that she'd done something wrong, and made a statement on the matter. While the parent is obviously amused (and why not be?), he's also taught her a lesson in cause and effect simply by showing her, something she may not have understood as quickly or easily if he'd just told her.
Are there worse video game situations to try and teach such a lesson with? Hell yes there are. But that's not what happened here.
Are there worse video game situations to try and teach such a lesson with? Hell yes there are. But that's not what happened here.
"People don't like to be sword."
A valuable life lesson learned through Skyrim, without having to experience the real-life consequences of an ass-kicking! I wish I had Skyrim to teach me that. D:
A valuable life lesson learned through Skyrim, without having to experience the real-life consequences of an ass-kicking! I wish I had Skyrim to teach me that. D:
Her face when the guards came in was what made the video.
But seriously? Of course the game was not appropriate for her. But it's not like she was actually doing a run through of the story or anything. She played it for like 2 minutes for a quick YouTube video with the dad standing right there. This is very different from a mom who doesn't care being convinced by her 10 year old that Modern Warfare 3 "isn't that bad for an M rated game and I can handle it." Lighten up, guys.
But seriously? Of course the game was not appropriate for her. But it's not like she was actually doing a run through of the story or anything. She played it for like 2 minutes for a quick YouTube video with the dad standing right there. This is very different from a mom who doesn't care being convinced by her 10 year old that Modern Warfare 3 "isn't that bad for an M rated game and I can handle it." Lighten up, guys.
Guys.. she's 3 years old.
Dig out some old programmes designed for young children, particularly stuff like Tom and Jerry (it's clearly the inspiration behind Itchy and Scratchy, if that gives you any idea why I'm mentioning it).
Showing fictional violence to a three year old is fine, it's probably infinitely less harmful than showing fictional violence to an eight year old. Children of three have a very loose grasp of cause and effect, you can see very clearly how surprised the girl is that her brutal murdering comes with punishment.
You're not going to damage her sense of cause and effect by allowing her to kill fictional people with swords, because she doesn't really understand cause and effect to begin with. You're not going to damage her empathy for other human beings because she has no empathy, she's not really skilled enough to perform grand substitutions like imagining how she'd feel in another person's situation, her world is pretty rigidly divided into 'me' and 'everyone else who relates to me'. You're not going to jade her to violence because I would hope she doesn't understand what violence really is, and if she does there are bigger problems than a bit of PG13 pixelated murdering.
I'm not advocating you go and rent 'Scarface' or John Carpenter's 'The Thing' for your 3 year old, but that's only because they might find it frightening, not because they're going to be irreparably damaged by witnessing pretend violence. This girl clearly doesn't find the game frightening, so no harm done. Her parents are in the room monitoring her, and she clearly feels safe and happy. That's all a three year old needs.
Of course, there is a reason why we replaced Tom and Jerry with slightly less brutal programming. It's not just the relentless cartoon violence but also the perceived educational value (or lack thereof). By enforcing consequence, this session of Skyrim neatly sidestepped that one. As long as she doesn't depend on it to learn all her important life lessons, I think she's fine.
I'm sure some of the people who would disagree with me are more knowledgeable about child development than I can claim to be. Still, I don't think even the odd expert is immune to approaching a toddler's mind with an adult perspective now and again.
I also have a strange feeling that a lot of these complaints would mysteriously dry up were she a little boy. No evidence, but call it a hunch.
Dig out some old programmes designed for young children, particularly stuff like Tom and Jerry (it's clearly the inspiration behind Itchy and Scratchy, if that gives you any idea why I'm mentioning it).
Showing fictional violence to a three year old is fine, it's probably infinitely less harmful than showing fictional violence to an eight year old. Children of three have a very loose grasp of cause and effect, you can see very clearly how surprised the girl is that her brutal murdering comes with punishment.
You're not going to damage her sense of cause and effect by allowing her to kill fictional people with swords, because she doesn't really understand cause and effect to begin with. You're not going to damage her empathy for other human beings because she has no empathy, she's not really skilled enough to perform grand substitutions like imagining how she'd feel in another person's situation, her world is pretty rigidly divided into 'me' and 'everyone else who relates to me'. You're not going to jade her to violence because I would hope she doesn't understand what violence really is, and if she does there are bigger problems than a bit of PG13 pixelated murdering.
I'm not advocating you go and rent 'Scarface' or John Carpenter's 'The Thing' for your 3 year old, but that's only because they might find it frightening, not because they're going to be irreparably damaged by witnessing pretend violence. This girl clearly doesn't find the game frightening, so no harm done. Her parents are in the room monitoring her, and she clearly feels safe and happy. That's all a three year old needs.
Of course, there is a reason why we replaced Tom and Jerry with slightly less brutal programming. It's not just the relentless cartoon violence but also the perceived educational value (or lack thereof). By enforcing consequence, this session of Skyrim neatly sidestepped that one. As long as she doesn't depend on it to learn all her important life lessons, I think she's fine.
I'm sure some of the people who would disagree with me are more knowledgeable about child development than I can claim to be. Still, I don't think even the odd expert is immune to approaching a toddler's mind with an adult perspective now and again.
I also have a strange feeling that a lot of these complaints would mysteriously dry up were she a little boy. No evidence, but call it a hunch.
For a minute I thought I was the only one getting that. I think this boils down to parents knowing their children. This young girl is obviously fairly sensible and can deduce right and wrong from the effect of her actions. Well done to her parents for doing it right, instead of wrapping her in cotton wool and shielding her from the world for it to warp her at a later date. If more people did it this way then there would be a lot more well rounded kids about.ReinWeisserRitter said:
And I can totally appreciate her wandering through the world of Skyrim and jumping in streams. I used to let my young sister drive around San Andreas, because she liked the driving. And driving into the sea. It hasn't made her rob cars and look for piers to jump off, well not yet anyway.
pics or it didnt happen.Cleril said:I also masturbate!Farther than stars said:No, that's fine. I get it. I guess it's nice that you have a hobby you can be enthusiastic about. ^.^Cleril said:I've taken hip-hop for five years, ballet for one, and ballroom for once.Farther than stars said:
I just record from my webcam and such and hey, free publicity really. One of my videos has over 1,000 views which I never expected.
In other words: I'm not sure how to answer your question, why shouldn't I have a video of me dancing at hand?
... I feel so unclean!
"Lions don't want to be sword" & "People don't want to be sword" - both quotes sum up perfectly why being a parent is the only truly great thing any of us shall ever do.
Did you watch the whole thing? She was promptly killed by the town guard, prompting her to realize that "people don't want to be sword". A valuable lesson for us all.Sixcess said:
This depends on where you live. In the US its rated M which is 17+ but it is also not against the law for people under 17 to play it (nor for that matter to buy it, though most stores to try to enforce those standards) Also I disagree that laws have to work on the lowest common denominator (at least what that sounds like to me) Just because there is one or two bad apples does not mean you should make laws affecting everybody due to those bad apple's actions. Do you really think that the government knows better what a kid needs than the kids own parents? By that logic you should not teach your children anything more advanced then what is taught to their age group in schools even if your child knows shows advanced intelligences for their age. After all the government knows best (public schools are run by the government.)ghost whistler said:
Reminded me of the Kill Bill part where the little girl retells the story of her stepping on her goldfish .
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