After playing Fallout 3 I got to thinkin

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Wait I don't usually care but I actually wanted to say something to the naysayers about New York.

New York is huge, but if you have ever actually been there you know there are a million and one landmarks tucked between the buildings.

There are parks, Gothic churches, a hundred unique buildings. Different districts, think Hells Kitchen and Chinatown, areas of unique ethnic origin. I mean I could go on, but just because there are only two landmarks most of you can think of off hand does not mean there is not a large and varied bulk of land to work with there.

Then there is the underground. There are miles upon miles upon miles of tunnels under the soil in New York some of it extending as deep as 500+ feet under ground. There are lost and abandoned tunnels. Hell you could make a game of exploring the underground in New York alone and not even have to worry about it being ruined.
Fair enough, I'm from New Zealand and have never been there and yet I know there are tonnes of landmarks, but how about a Fallout in a different country? It could put a massive spin on the game. Say for example Germay, Russia, France, China or Britan?

I mean the people would be different culture wise and it could bring different reactions to things as well as just a whole different landscape :)

I loved Fallout 1 + 2 + 3 and can't wait for more, no matter where it's set :)
I would like to see a Fallout in China. Fallout: Hong Kong!
 

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Don't think I could manage another FAllout 3 game right now. The ruins of DC were great, even for a non-american like me, but the wastes.... They were cool, but they get old at some point.
 

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how bout we examine the other side and see what happened in moscow. can you imagine fighting a new enemy in the wreckage of the kremlin
Because the other side is China, not Russia. Ruined Hong Kong would be, in the words of Oscar Wilde, 'the shit'.

I totally agree with about half the people on this thread - Fallout Outside of the U.S, people! Let's see London, Paris, Tokyo and Rome!
 

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Although it would be cool and all, I believe it was stated before that you'd lose half the elements that made the Fallout series what it is as soon as it leaves the United States. Also, I'm not sure how ruined the rest of the world would be if it was just America and China going at it... radioactive fallout from the bombs would be about all you'd get, though everything would be in decay obviously :/ Along with that, I doubt there'd be Vaults as we know them, as none of the games mention anything about Vault-Tech being an international company, as far as I know...

However, I must admit that a Fallout game with a further-ruined version of the Great Wall would make me very happy :) But I guess China's just too damn big for one game... Have to be its own series... Fallout International: Far East Edition o_O Ok, nvm, that sounds retarded ~.~

blaze96 said:
While I would love to play Fallout 1 & 2, I have no idea where I may buy them in reliable quality.
Look it up on Amazon.com if you don't live in the USA (I do, lucky me I guess :/). I found a 3-pack made up of FO 1&2 plus Fallout Tactics (technically the third game?) at the local Target superstore for around 20 bucks I think, about six months back o_O All of them work on XP (advertised and tested), though I don't know about Vista (I would assume they would). Last I checked there were still some there, but that's just that store ^-^"
 

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Spineyguy said:
paragon1 said:
Spineyguy said:
paragon1 said:
Spineyguy said:
How about we do over with the whole 'ruined US cityscape' idea and try something new. Maybe, an RPG with FPS elements set in post-apocalyptic London Can you imagen fighting your way through Parliament house with hordes of mutant politicians trying to claw your nipples off and take all your money.

I would much prefer a game set in England, why does that never happen? The closest thing we've come to an english game so far has been either GTA London 1960s or Fable, and even Fable tries to hide the fact that it's set in england by calling it 'Albion'.

England was originally named Albion, then it was named Anglo-land, then England. So it's not even a particularly clever disguise. But why disguise it at all? Are Americans completely incapable of accepting that there are other countries in the world? It's been assumed that if you don't set your game in America, then you won't appeal to the American market, but why? Americans aren't bad people who are self-centred and xeno-phobic (well most aren't anyway). So why not mix things up a bit.

Also, I'm not counting 'Resident Evil' because they're clearly making a statement about how terrible all these other countries are compared to America, and that an American should go in there and feed them some liberty, democracy and bullets.
Really? Seriously dude, really? An Englishman (UK citizen, at least) is accusing Americans of being self-rightous imperialists? Do I really need to go into just how hypocritical and ironic that would be?
I can only assume the original fallout took place in America because the developers were American. Fallout 2 was a direct sequel, so it wouldn't make much sense for it to take place elsewhere, would it? I guess Fallout 3 took place in America for continuity's sake.

I believe there are several games that take place in London. In fact, Unskippable did an episode on the Getaway, if I'm not much mistaken. Also, don't Americans play an awful lot of games from a little place called Japan? Last time I checked, the land of the rising son hasn't applied for statehood yet.
I said that the majority of Americans AREN'T self-rightious imperialists. (This might have been unclear typing on my part) Some of my best freinds are American and why would I badmouth one of the most powerful nations in the world?

Yeah, you can bring up 'The Getaway' if you like, but I was actually referring to good games. Maybe something a little more mainstream. And I wasn't even referring to Fallout specifically, I just think that by broadening the range of places you set your games in, you would probably attract a wider, not narrower audience.

Besides, the Englishmen who ran the empire a hundred years ago were miles from the hypochondriac, safety-obsessed, desparate people we are today. Half the country live in fifty bedroom houses with butlers and massive govornment paycheques, and the other half live in council provided housing, refusing to find jobs and living off the state benefits and free healthcare. In some ways, we are already a post-apocalyptic wasteland.
Ooh, okay, thanks for clearing that up. The massive government paycheckes sound nice (though I'm betting you guys get taxed halfway to Obilivion). Though I still have one tiny problem with your original statement. Resident Evil was made in Japan, wasn't it? And isn't the protagonist supposed to be working for some sort of international thingy?
P.S. I agree that the Getaway wasn't very good.
Oh yeah, and then you have to factor in that prices are waaaaaayyy higher in Britain than they are in America, and the local councils have a nasty habit of charging unreasonable amounts for things like parking your car and such.

To be fair, Trine was brilliant and that featured all English characters. But it wasn't all that mainstream. Still loved it though. I hope they do a sequel. Though indy games rarely get franchises.
It's all a sad, sordid affair really.
 

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gibboss28 said:
maddawg IAJI said:
Gilbert Munch said:
Really, what in New York would look good destroyed? It would just be ruined building after ruined building, with Central Park being the only recogniseable feature. What made DC work was the fact that there were so many cultural and historical landmarks that were destroyed, and that's what made many feel that it had hit home with them.
This.

I heard rumours of a possible Fallout being held in Vegas. Now that would be a much better area then New york. We could play poker with Super Mutants!
Not a rumour.

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout:_New_Vegas
LoL.

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Gilbert Munch said:
I think you're missing the point of what I'm saying. New York is just a shitload of buildings, which very few landmarks, something that made Fallout 3 great.
Nah, I understood what you meant: I'm not trying to call you out or anything, but there's plenty of neat places you could visit in NYC... imagine a large, bombed out Madison Square Garden, Statue of Liberty (there *is* an interior to it), Ellis Island, Grand Central Station, Laguardia Airport, Times Square, Empire State Building, Rockefeller Center (which is where that big Christmas tree goes up every year), Radio City Music Hall... hell, all of Broadway, Museum of Natural History, Top of the Rock (another famous place to get a good aerial view of NYC).

One thing that would be cool is the torn up New York Stock Exchange...

Hell: One of the coolest things out there is the TELECTROSCOPE: It lets you see London from New York... live :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1uKO8YD8TA
 

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Dr.Sean said:
Spineyguy said:
England was originally named Albion, then it was named Anglo-land, then England. So it's not even a particularly clever disguise. But why disguise it at all? Are Americans completely incapable of accepting that there are other countries in the world? It's been assumed that if you don't set your game in America, then you won't appeal to the American market, but why? Americans aren't bad people who are self-centred and xeno-phobic (well most aren't anyway). So why not mix things up a bit.
Video Games that take place in places other than America:
Farcry2
Age Of Empires 1 and 2 (the Aztec campaign takes place in Mexico, not USA)
Half-Life 2 and all sequel episodes
Bioshock
Tropico
Planescape: Torment

On-Topic: I would like to see a Fallout game set in China, because I really want to see how nuclear war affected it.
Bioshock= kind of a cheap shot because its underwater in the Atlantic, which can be in American waters
HL: actually in america
I do agree w/ your fallout china idea, that would be pretty cool.
 

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Wizzie said:
I honestly cannot abide by another game set in NYC again for a very long time, even when trying to mask it as "liberty city".
There's nothing amazingly standout about it, apart from Central park and the short trip to see the Statue of Liberty.

It's nothing impressive really.
How about say... Rome or Venice?
I personally would love Rome.
 

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Juraz said:
Fallout Australia, with Rad Emus, Kangaroos, Koalas, and of course giant snakes and spiders
You want an RPG where you don't take two steps and get bitten by a radio-active Funnel Web.
 

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Roamin11 said:
After playin Fallout 3 I just have to say going into ruined landmarks was AWSOME, it was one of the greatest parts of the game the landmarks. So I got to thinkin what bout a Fallout game in Fallout 3 style (in other words a RPG with first person shooter elements) in New York, I know it would be a HUGE task to undertake, but it would be a awsome final product, does anyone agree with me disagree with me?
Actually in the Faullout universe the Ice caps melted raising the water lvs, thus NYC is 300 or so feet under an iradiated ocean.
 

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Dr.Sean said:
omgwaffles said:
Dr.Sean said:
Spineyguy said:
England was originally named Albion, then it was named Anglo-land, then England. So it's not even a particularly clever disguise. But why disguise it at all? Are Americans completely incapable of accepting that there are other countries in the world? It's been assumed that if you don't set your game in America, then you won't appeal to the American market, but why? Americans aren't bad people who are self-centred and xeno-phobic (well most aren't anyway). So why not mix things up a bit.
Video Games that take place in places other than America:
Farcry2
Age Of Empires 1 and 2 (the Aztec campaign takes place in Mexico, not USA)
Half-Life 2 and all sequel episodes
Bioshock
Tropico
Planescape: Torment

On-Topic: I would like to see a Fallout game set in China, because I really want to see how nuclear war affected it.
Bioshock= kind of a cheap shot because its underwater in the Atlantic, which can be in American waters
HL: actually in america
I do agree w/ your fallout china idea, that would be pretty cool.
I was talking about Hl2 not HL1 you stupid bastards.
well, thats a nice way to put it, considering U R THE 1 WHO DIDNT SPECIFY
 

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paragon1 said:
Spineyguy said:
paragon1 said:
Spineyguy said:
paragon1 said:
Spineyguy said:
How about we do over with the whole 'ruined US cityscape' idea and try something new. Maybe, an RPG with FPS elements set in post-apocalyptic London Can you imagen fighting your way through Parliament house with hordes of mutant politicians trying to claw your nipples off and take all your money.

I would much prefer a game set in England, why does that never happen? The closest thing we've come to an english game so far has been either GTA London 1960s or Fable, and even Fable tries to hide the fact that it's set in england by calling it 'Albion'.

England was originally named Albion, then it was named Anglo-land, then England. So it's not even a particularly clever disguise. But why disguise it at all? Are Americans completely incapable of accepting that there are other countries in the world? It's been assumed that if you don't set your game in America, then you won't appeal to the American market, but why? Americans aren't bad people who are self-centred and xeno-phobic (well most aren't anyway). So why not mix things up a bit.

Also, I'm not counting 'Resident Evil' because they're clearly making a statement about how terrible all these other countries are compared to America, and that an American should go in there and feed them some liberty, democracy and bullets.
Really? Seriously dude, really? An Englishman (UK citizen, at least) is accusing Americans of being self-rightous imperialists? Do I really need to go into just how hypocritical and ironic that would be?
I can only assume the original fallout took place in America because the developers were American. Fallout 2 was a direct sequel, so it wouldn't make much sense for it to take place elsewhere, would it? I guess Fallout 3 took place in America for continuity's sake.

I believe there are several games that take place in London. In fact, Unskippable did an episode on the Getaway, if I'm not much mistaken. Also, don't Americans play an awful lot of games from a little place called Japan? Last time I checked, the land of the rising son hasn't applied for statehood yet.
I said that the majority of Americans AREN'T self-rightious imperialists. (This might have been unclear typing on my part) Some of my best freinds are American and why would I badmouth one of the most powerful nations in the world?

Yeah, you can bring up 'The Getaway' if you like, but I was actually referring to good games. Maybe something a little more mainstream. And I wasn't even referring to Fallout specifically, I just think that by broadening the range of places you set your games in, you would probably attract a wider, not narrower audience.

Besides, the Englishmen who ran the empire a hundred years ago were miles from the hypochondriac, safety-obsessed, desparate people we are today. Half the country live in fifty bedroom houses with butlers and massive govornment paycheques, and the other half live in council provided housing, refusing to find jobs and living off the state benefits and free healthcare. In some ways, we are already a post-apocalyptic wasteland.
Ooh, okay, thanks for clearing that up. The massive government paycheckes sound nice (though I'm betting you guys get taxed halfway to Obilivion). Though I still have one tiny problem with your original statement. Resident Evil was made in Japan, wasn't it? And isn't the protagonist supposed to be working for some sort of international thingy?
P.S. I agree that the Getaway wasn't very good.
Oh yeah, and then you have to factor in that prices are waaaaaayyy higher in Britain than they are in America, and the local councils have a nasty habit of charging unreasonable amounts for things like parking your car and such.

To be fair, Trine was brilliant and that featured all English characters. But it wasn't all that mainstream. Still loved it though. I hope they do a sequel. Though indy games rarely get franchises.
It's all a sad, sordid affair really.
I know right. I want to see more inventive puzzles! And new upgrades for the characters, bring in more RPG elements. And some different enemies, the skeletons are getting a bit boring now. ¬_¬
 

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I think that they're doing the same thing only it's in Las Vegas. Besides, there are way too many buildings in New York, I hated having to get around through the subways in the D.C. area because all the building debris was blocking the paths.
 

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omgwaffles said:
Dr.Sean said:
omgwaffles said:
Dr.Sean said:
Spineyguy said:
England was originally named Albion, then it was named Anglo-land, then England. So it's not even a particularly clever disguise. But why disguise it at all? Are Americans completely incapable of accepting that there are other countries in the world? It's been assumed that if you don't set your game in America, then you won't appeal to the American market, but why? Americans aren't bad people who are self-centred and xeno-phobic (well most aren't anyway). So why not mix things up a bit.
Video Games that take place in places other than America:
Farcry2
Age Of Empires 1 and 2 (the Aztec campaign takes place in Mexico, not USA)
Half-Life 2 and all sequel episodes
Bioshock
Tropico
Planescape: Torment

On-Topic: I would like to see a Fallout game set in China, because I really want to see how nuclear war affected it.
Bioshock= kind of a cheap shot because its underwater in the Atlantic, which can be in American waters
HL: actually in america
I do agree w/ your fallout china idea, that would be pretty cool.
I was talking about Hl2 not HL1 you stupid bastards.
well, thats a nice way to put it, considering U R THE 1 WHO DIDNT SPECIFY
Right above Bioshock it says "Half-life 2 and all sequel episodes". Now shut up retards.