After playing Fallout 3 I got to thinkin

[ohgodalex]

Also, I'm not counting 'Resident Evil' because they're clearly making a statement about how terrible all these other countries are compared to America, and that an American should go in there and feed them some liberty, democracy and bullets.

I'd like to politely refute that. RE games are written and developed by Capcom. They don't make a statement, they're just terrible at writing new and interesting storylines.
That and I think you'd be hard pressed to find evidence in RE-RE3 to suggest that the game is making pro-American statements. I seem to remember the main characters very much appalled by the President's plan to nuke the shit out of Raccoon City. Anyway, I'm starting to ramble.

OT: I think the urban areas of Fallout 3 were the most boring parts of the game, actually. I was fond of the wasteland, although the monuments were the exception to this rule. Still, all the major landmarks in NYC are giant, boring skyscrapers. I can't imagine myself tearing up as I see the ruined office space in the Empire State Building.

 

[Aerodynamic]

Fallout : Mexico/Canada?

What happened to Americas Neighboring Country's?

 

[johnman]

The only thing I would recognise is the staue of liberty. You have to think internationally as well, everyone knows the white house and washington mounment.

 

[MiracleOfSound]

I was talking about Hl2 not HL1 you stupid bastards.

That's nice.

I would suggest turning the old aggresive tone down a bit there dude, it doesn't make for good discussions.

 

[paragon1]

How about we do over with the whole 'ruined US cityscape' idea and try something new. Maybe, an RPG with FPS elements set in post-apocalyptic London Can you imagen fighting your way through Parliament house with hordes of mutant politicians trying to claw your nipples off and take all your money.

I would much prefer a game set in England, why does that never happen? The closest thing we've come to an english game so far has been either GTA London 1960s or Fable, and even Fable tries to hide the fact that it's set in england by calling it 'Albion'.

England was originally named Albion, then it was named Anglo-land, then England. So it's not even a particularly clever disguise. But why disguise it at all? Are Americans completely incapable of accepting that there are other countries in the world? It's been assumed that if you don't set your game in America, then you won't appeal to the American market, but why? Americans aren't bad people who are self-centred and xeno-phobic (well most aren't anyway). So why not mix things up a bit.

Also, I'm not counting 'Resident Evil' because they're clearly making a statement about how terrible all these other countries are compared to America, and that an American should go in there and feed them some liberty, democracy and bullets.

Really? Seriously dude, really? An Englishman (UK citizen, at least) is accusing Americans of being self-rightous imperialists? Do I really need to go into just how hypocritical and ironic that would be?
I can only assume the original fallout took place in America because the developers were American. Fallout 2 was a direct sequel, so it wouldn't make much sense for it to take place elsewhere, would it? I guess Fallout 3 took place in America for continuity's sake.

I believe there are several games that take place in London. In fact, Unskippable did an episode on the Getaway, if I'm not much mistaken. Also, don't Americans play an awful lot of games from a little place called Japan? Last time I checked, the land of the rising son hasn't applied for statehood yet.

I said that the majority of Americans AREN'T self-rightious imperialists. (This might have been unclear typing on my part) Some of my best freinds are American and why would I badmouth one of the most powerful nations in the world?

Yeah, you can bring up 'The Getaway' if you like, but I was actually referring to good games. Maybe something a little more mainstream. And I wasn't even referring to Fallout specifically, I just think that by broadening the range of places you set your games in, you would probably attract a wider, not narrower audience.

Besides, the Englishmen who ran the empire a hundred years ago were miles from the hypochondriac, safety-obsessed, desparate people we are today. Half the country live in fifty bedroom houses with butlers and massive govornment paycheques, and the other half live in council provided housing, refusing to find jobs and living off the state benefits and free healthcare. In some ways, we are already a post-apocalyptic wasteland.

Ooh, okay, thanks for clearing that up. The massive government paycheckes sound nice (though I'm betting you guys get taxed halfway to Obilivion). Though I still have one tiny problem with your original statement. Resident Evil was made in Japan, wasn't it? And isn't the protagonist supposed to be working for some sort of international thingy?
P.S. I agree that the Getaway wasn't very good.

Oh yeah, and then you have to factor in that prices are waaaaaayyy higher in Britain than they are in America, and the local councils have a nasty habit of charging unreasonable amounts for things like parking your car and such.

To be fair, Trine was brilliant and that featured all English characters. But it wasn't all that mainstream. Still loved it though. I hope they do a sequel. Though indy games rarely get franchises.

It's all a sad, sordid affair really.

I know right. I want to see more inventive puzzles! And new upgrades for the characters, bring in more RPG elements. And some different enemies, the skeletons are getting a bit boring now. ¬_¬

Yeah, unfortunately asking for creativity in games these days is like asking a homless man for bus fare. I'm personally sick and tired of the rad scorpions myself.

 

[Spineyguy]

How about we do over with the whole 'ruined US cityscape' idea and try something new. Maybe, an RPG with FPS elements set in post-apocalyptic London Can you imagen fighting your way through Parliament house with hordes of mutant politicians trying to claw your nipples off and take all your money.

I would much prefer a game set in England, why does that never happen? The closest thing we've come to an english game so far has been either GTA London 1960s or Fable, and even Fable tries to hide the fact that it's set in england by calling it 'Albion'.

England was originally named Albion, then it was named Anglo-land, then England. So it's not even a particularly clever disguise. But why disguise it at all? Are Americans completely incapable of accepting that there are other countries in the world? It's been assumed that if you don't set your game in America, then you won't appeal to the American market, but why? Americans aren't bad people who are self-centred and xeno-phobic (well most aren't anyway). So why not mix things up a bit.

Also, I'm not counting 'Resident Evil' because they're clearly making a statement about how terrible all these other countries are compared to America, and that an American should go in there and feed them some liberty, democracy and bullets.

Really? Seriously dude, really? An Englishman (UK citizen, at least) is accusing Americans of being self-rightous imperialists? Do I really need to go into just how hypocritical and ironic that would be?
I can only assume the original fallout took place in America because the developers were American. Fallout 2 was a direct sequel, so it wouldn't make much sense for it to take place elsewhere, would it? I guess Fallout 3 took place in America for continuity's sake.

I believe there are several games that take place in London. In fact, Unskippable did an episode on the Getaway, if I'm not much mistaken. Also, don't Americans play an awful lot of games from a little place called Japan? Last time I checked, the land of the rising son hasn't applied for statehood yet.

I said that the majority of Americans AREN'T self-rightious imperialists. (This might have been unclear typing on my part) Some of my best freinds are American and why would I badmouth one of the most powerful nations in the world?

Yeah, you can bring up 'The Getaway' if you like, but I was actually referring to good games. Maybe something a little more mainstream. And I wasn't even referring to Fallout specifically, I just think that by broadening the range of places you set your games in, you would probably attract a wider, not narrower audience.

Besides, the Englishmen who ran the empire a hundred years ago were miles from the hypochondriac, safety-obsessed, desparate people we are today. Half the country live in fifty bedroom houses with butlers and massive govornment paycheques, and the other half live in council provided housing, refusing to find jobs and living off the state benefits and free healthcare. In some ways, we are already a post-apocalyptic wasteland.

Ooh, okay, thanks for clearing that up. The massive government paycheckes sound nice (though I'm betting you guys get taxed halfway to Obilivion). Though I still have one tiny problem with your original statement. Resident Evil was made in Japan, wasn't it? And isn't the protagonist supposed to be working for some sort of international thingy?
P.S. I agree that the Getaway wasn't very good.

Oh yeah, and then you have to factor in that prices are waaaaaayyy higher in Britain than they are in America, and the local councils have a nasty habit of charging unreasonable amounts for things like parking your car and such.

To be fair, Trine was brilliant and that featured all English characters. But it wasn't all that mainstream. Still loved it though. I hope they do a sequel. Though indy games rarely get franchises.

It's all a sad, sordid affair really.

I know right. I want to see more inventive puzzles! And new upgrades for the characters, bring in more RPG elements. And some different enemies, the skeletons are getting a bit boring now. ¬_¬

Yeah, unfortunately asking for creativity in games these days is like asking a homless man for bus fare. I'm personally sick and tired of the rad scorpions myself.

Really? I'm bored of the whole Aliens idea. The odds of humanity ever encountering any aliens in such a vast galaxy are tiny. So why do we always seem to find aliens on whichever planet we colonise?

 

[paragon1]

How about we do over with the whole 'ruined US cityscape' idea and try something new. Maybe, an RPG with FPS elements set in post-apocalyptic London Can you imagen fighting your way through Parliament house with hordes of mutant politicians trying to claw your nipples off and take all your money.

I would much prefer a game set in England, why does that never happen? The closest thing we've come to an english game so far has been either GTA London 1960s or Fable, and even Fable tries to hide the fact that it's set in england by calling it 'Albion'.

England was originally named Albion, then it was named Anglo-land, then England. So it's not even a particularly clever disguise. But why disguise it at all? Are Americans completely incapable of accepting that there are other countries in the world? It's been assumed that if you don't set your game in America, then you won't appeal to the American market, but why? Americans aren't bad people who are self-centred and xeno-phobic (well most aren't anyway). So why not mix things up a bit.

Also, I'm not counting 'Resident Evil' because they're clearly making a statement about how terrible all these other countries are compared to America, and that an American should go in there and feed them some liberty, democracy and bullets.

Really? Seriously dude, really? An Englishman (UK citizen, at least) is accusing Americans of being self-rightous imperialists? Do I really need to go into just how hypocritical and ironic that would be?
I can only assume the original fallout took place in America because the developers were American. Fallout 2 was a direct sequel, so it wouldn't make much sense for it to take place elsewhere, would it? I guess Fallout 3 took place in America for continuity's sake.

I believe there are several games that take place in London. In fact, Unskippable did an episode on the Getaway, if I'm not much mistaken. Also, don't Americans play an awful lot of games from a little place called Japan? Last time I checked, the land of the rising son hasn't applied for statehood yet.

I said that the majority of Americans AREN'T self-rightious imperialists. (This might have been unclear typing on my part) Some of my best freinds are American and why would I badmouth one of the most powerful nations in the world?

Yeah, you can bring up 'The Getaway' if you like, but I was actually referring to good games. Maybe something a little more mainstream. And I wasn't even referring to Fallout specifically, I just think that by broadening the range of places you set your games in, you would probably attract a wider, not narrower audience.

Besides, the Englishmen who ran the empire a hundred years ago were miles from the hypochondriac, safety-obsessed, desparate people we are today. Half the country live in fifty bedroom houses with butlers and massive govornment paycheques, and the other half live in council provided housing, refusing to find jobs and living off the state benefits and free healthcare. In some ways, we are already a post-apocalyptic wasteland.

Ooh, okay, thanks for clearing that up. The massive government paycheckes sound nice (though I'm betting you guys get taxed halfway to Obilivion). Though I still have one tiny problem with your original statement. Resident Evil was made in Japan, wasn't it? And isn't the protagonist supposed to be working for some sort of international thingy?
P.S. I agree that the Getaway wasn't very good.

Oh yeah, and then you have to factor in that prices are waaaaaayyy higher in Britain than they are in America, and the local councils have a nasty habit of charging unreasonable amounts for things like parking your car and such.

To be fair, Trine was brilliant and that featured all English characters. But it wasn't all that mainstream. Still loved it though. I hope they do a sequel. Though indy games rarely get franchises.

It's all a sad, sordid affair really.

I know right. I want to see more inventive puzzles! And new upgrades for the characters, bring in more RPG elements. And some different enemies, the skeletons are getting a bit boring now. ¬_¬

Yeah, unfortunately asking for creativity in games these days is like asking a homless man for bus fare. I'm personally sick and tired of the rad scorpions myself.

Really? I'm bored of the whole Aliens idea. The odds of humanity ever encountering any aliens in such a vast galaxy are tiny. So why do we always seem to find aliens on whichever planet we colonise?

Really really bad luck? Seriously though, unless it was part of a much broader game, going to another world and not finding anything like that wouldn't be much fun, would it? We always find aliens for the same reason you don't spend 3 hours bleeding to death from a gut-wound in an FPS. Reality (with rare exceptions) sucks.

 

[nicholaxxx]

Really, what in New York would look good destroyed? It would just be ruined building after ruined building, with Central Park being the only recogniseable feature. What made DC work was the fact that there were so many cultural and historical landmarks that were destroyed, and that's what made many feel that it had hit home with them.

This.

I heard rumours of a possible Fallout being held in Vegas. Now that would be a much better area then New york. We could play poker with Super Mutants!

yeah, thats been confirmed, shockingly it's called 'New Vegas' it uses the fallout 3 engine and is on my buy list

 

[Jennacide]

I heard rumours of a possible Fallout being held in Vegas. Now that would be a much better area then New york. We could play poker with Super Mutants!

They aren't rumors. Obsidian, the former members of Black Isle, are working with Bethesda on Fallout New Vegas. Check out The Vault on Wikia for more details.

Knowing how lazy developers are when it comes to recreating New York, they'd base the whole thing in Manhattan like in [prototype].

Protip: that wasn't laziness. They had to use an isolated area that could be cut off by water entirely, so it can be reasoned why you can't ever leave. Alex sinks like a stone, why any time you hit water he leaps back out.

 

[Spineyguy]

How about we do over with the whole 'ruined US cityscape' idea and try something new. Maybe, an RPG with FPS elements set in post-apocalyptic London Can you imagen fighting your way through Parliament house with hordes of mutant politicians trying to claw your nipples off and take all your money.

I would much prefer a game set in England, why does that never happen? The closest thing we've come to an english game so far has been either GTA London 1960s or Fable, and even Fable tries to hide the fact that it's set in england by calling it 'Albion'.

England was originally named Albion, then it was named Anglo-land, then England. So it's not even a particularly clever disguise. But why disguise it at all? Are Americans completely incapable of accepting that there are other countries in the world? It's been assumed that if you don't set your game in America, then you won't appeal to the American market, but why? Americans aren't bad people who are self-centred and xeno-phobic (well most aren't anyway). So why not mix things up a bit.

Also, I'm not counting 'Resident Evil' because they're clearly making a statement about how terrible all these other countries are compared to America, and that an American should go in there and feed them some liberty, democracy and bullets.

Really? Seriously dude, really? An Englishman (UK citizen, at least) is accusing Americans of being self-rightous imperialists? Do I really need to go into just how hypocritical and ironic that would be?
I can only assume the original fallout took place in America because the developers were American. Fallout 2 was a direct sequel, so it wouldn't make much sense for it to take place elsewhere, would it? I guess Fallout 3 took place in America for continuity's sake.

I believe there are several games that take place in London. In fact, Unskippable did an episode on the Getaway, if I'm not much mistaken. Also, don't Americans play an awful lot of games from a little place called Japan? Last time I checked, the land of the rising son hasn't applied for statehood yet.

I said that the majority of Americans AREN'T self-rightious imperialists. (This might have been unclear typing on my part) Some of my best freinds are American and why would I badmouth one of the most powerful nations in the world?

Yeah, you can bring up 'The Getaway' if you like, but I was actually referring to good games. Maybe something a little more mainstream. And I wasn't even referring to Fallout specifically, I just think that by broadening the range of places you set your games in, you would probably attract a wider, not narrower audience.

Besides, the Englishmen who ran the empire a hundred years ago were miles from the hypochondriac, safety-obsessed, desparate people we are today. Half the country live in fifty bedroom houses with butlers and massive govornment paycheques, and the other half live in council provided housing, refusing to find jobs and living off the state benefits and free healthcare. In some ways, we are already a post-apocalyptic wasteland.

Ooh, okay, thanks for clearing that up. The massive government paycheckes sound nice (though I'm betting you guys get taxed halfway to Obilivion). Though I still have one tiny problem with your original statement. Resident Evil was made in Japan, wasn't it? And isn't the protagonist supposed to be working for some sort of international thingy?
P.S. I agree that the Getaway wasn't very good.

Oh yeah, and then you have to factor in that prices are waaaaaayyy higher in Britain than they are in America, and the local councils have a nasty habit of charging unreasonable amounts for things like parking your car and such.

To be fair, Trine was brilliant and that featured all English characters. But it wasn't all that mainstream. Still loved it though. I hope they do a sequel. Though indy games rarely get franchises.

It's all a sad, sordid affair really.

I know right. I want to see more inventive puzzles! And new upgrades for the characters, bring in more RPG elements. And some different enemies, the skeletons are getting a bit boring now. ¬_¬

Yeah, unfortunately asking for creativity in games these days is like asking a homless man for bus fare. I'm personally sick and tired of the rad scorpions myself.

Really? I'm bored of the whole Aliens idea. The odds of humanity ever encountering any aliens in such a vast galaxy are tiny. So why do we always seem to find aliens on whichever planet we colonise?

Really really bad luck? Seriously though, unless it was part of a much broader game, going to another world and not finding anything like that wouldn't be much fun, would it? We always find aliens for the same reason you don't spend 3 hours bleeding to death from a gut-wound in an FPS. Reality (with rare exceptions) sucks.

But at least in the upcoming RPG/FPS thingy 'Borderlands' the main enemy are human. The local wildlife is nasty as well, but for the most part you'll be fighting people.

 

[LackingSaint]

Alaska? I'd love to see a radiated desert of snow.

 

[ThePirateMan]

I would really like it if they went outside the U.S, maybe europe? Maybe an icy seting in northern europe, a more asian fallout in china, japan, some nice things to destroy in the UK, france, italy. There must be a little scary mutants in south america, you could travel between the countries in central america, underworld bases, homes in the north/south poles.. if they havn't melted and made that impossible.
And no, not australia that would just not make that much of a difference..

 

[Salem_Wolf]

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't a Fallout game ONLY work in an American setting, considering America was nuked, but no where else? Like I said, I'm very possibly wrong and for that, my apologizes, I hadn't played Fallout 1 or 2, just 3, but I do have Wikipedia for the plotline I suppose.