There probably won't be a second season, but it's not as if the US ratings are the beginning and end of it. Just like Shield the show has one trump card: international viewership is what matters, since the show is all made in house ABC gets money from licencing it too, not just from advertisement.P-89 Scorpion said:And the ratings drop again to lower than multiple repeats on the same night this is now a dead man walking with ABC now and forever saying that this was an 8 episode mini series never intended to get a second season (unless the ratings were better than awful anyway).
I do believe Bob got the number wrong there. If I remember correctly, Stark says it's 107, not 170.the December King said:Peggy is capable of 170 one armed pushups? Wow. Is she also a super soldier, like enhanced or something?
Yeah... pretty sure that Peggy's neighbor will turn out to be another product of the Red Room, not Widow herself. Now, that redheaded child we got a glimpse of in the teaser for next week's episode (which takes place in Russia)? THAT could be a different story.Sniper Team 4 said:I do believe Bob got the number wrong there. If I remember correctly, Stark says it's 107, not 170.the December King said:Peggy is capable of 170 one armed pushups? Wow. Is she also a super soldier, like enhanced or something?
Anyway, I liked this episode. Then again, I've liked all the episodes. I'm enjoying this much more that SHIELD. Looking forward to next week's because the team is getting put back together and thus we get to see Peggy really shine.
I was not on board with the Black Widow theory that people were throwing around. I thought it sounded cool, but I figured there was no way they'd do that. But after this episode, now I'm not so sure. The way she moved looked very familiar. Of course, that could just be the same type of training, but I'm on board with the theory now.
One has to wonder how people like Mink manage to get other people to work for him. He executes his two henchmen for really no reason. They still got the money it looked like. He did it just for the sake of being evil, and I have to wonder how insane you have to be to work for a man like that. Surely eventually he'd run out of willing helpers.
Fair enough, but hat's still a superhuman effort of one-armed pushups, though!Sniper Team 4 said:I do believe Bob got the number wrong there. If I remember correctly, Stark says it's 107, not 170.the December King said:Peggy is capable of 170 one armed pushups? Wow. Is she also a super soldier, like enhanced or something?
Please name me a show on OTA broadcast TV in it's 1st or 2nd year that was saved by 'international' viewership?Zontar said:There probably won't be a second season, but it's not as if the US ratings are the beginning and end of it. Just like Shield the show has one trump card: international viewership is what matters, since the show is all made in house ABC gets money from licencing it too, not just from advertisement.P-89 Scorpion said:And the ratings drop again to lower than multiple repeats on the same night this is now a dead man walking with ABC now and forever saying that this was an 8 episode mini series never intended to get a second season (unless the ratings were better than awful anyway).
Well I think Agents may qualify given the level of viewership it had at the end, though like Carter it is a special case. Most shows made in the US don't care for international viewership, which to them is only icing on the cake. But in the case of Agent Carter and Agents of Shield there isn't a dependency on domestic viewership for one simple reason: it's all in house. While most shows are made by one studio and broadcast by another, ABC is the one both making and broadcasting the series (Marvel and ABC are part of the same corporate family, the house of mouse). While most broadcasters only make their money off the advertising, ABC gets it from both domestic advertisement and from international licencing. This means that the 2 million Canadians, million Australians, 3 million Brits and 10 million mainland Europeans who watch the series all are counted, even if not at the same value as American viewers (the foreign broadcasters are the ones making the ad money off the licences after all).P-89 Scorpion said:Please name me a show on OTA broadcast TV in it's 1st or 2nd year that was saved by 'international' viewership?Zontar said:There probably won't be a second season, but it's not as if the US ratings are the beginning and end of it. Just like Shield the show has one trump card: international viewership is what matters, since the show is all made in house ABC gets money from licencing it too, not just from advertisement.P-89 Scorpion said:And the ratings drop again to lower than multiple repeats on the same night this is now a dead man walking with ABC now and forever saying that this was an 8 episode mini series never intended to get a second season (unless the ratings were better than awful anyway).
Shows in there 3rd year (if they have a full 3 season order) get an automatic 4th season renewal for syndication.
It seemed like he had another goal in mind that they failed to accomplish. The money was just the excuse? I think he was trying to draw Stark out (which Stark then foiled by smuggling himself).Sniper Team 4 said:One has to wonder how people like Mink manage to get other people to work for him. He executes his two henchmen for really no reason. They still got the money it looked like. He did it just for the sake of being evil, and I have to wonder how insane you have to be to work for a man like that. Surely eventually he'd run out of willing helpers.