Agoraphobic PS3 Owner Sues Sony over PSN Ban

[CyberGenesis]

Sorry, First Ammendment doesnt apply to private forums of any kind. Apparently tardo didnt READ the ToS you agree to by default every time you log into someone elses online service.

The Escapist isn't big on language censoring, obviously given their CONTENT they really can't be. They could though, and you couldnt do a damn thing about it...Same concept.

3 words for Sony: Good for you!

Screw the whiny agorophobic *****... (Not a dig on the agorophobes, just the whiny ones)

 

[AceDiamond]

I'd just like to say that illness can never be an excuse for being a dick. He broke the rules, he got banned. Too bad, so sad. I hope he gets countersued out of his home. See how long he lasts.

(that last bit was not an honest hope, more of a hyperbolic joke)

 

[SenseOfTumour]

I seem to remember a piece of Discworld Wisdom applies here, When Commander Vimes had to deal with an enemy country's police leader. 'Your problem, Vimes, is you couldn't believe that one of us could be a nasty small minded evil git, only your own people.'

Same applies to race, gender, sexuality, religion, disability, age, size, and everything else.

None of them are a licence to be a dick.

To me, he saw an opportunity to make a quick buck by publicising it and hoping Sony would pay up rather than deal with bad publicity.

It's like, sure, people with Tourrette's Syndrome need jobs too, but you don't place them on the customer service desk at Tesco.

(Actually I would, having worked in retail, its what a vast majority of customers need!)

Um, I'm slipping off topic a little.

Personally, if I couldn't control my mouth and behaving appropriately was part of the terms of use, then I'd not plug in the headset, and keep my game.

Personally, I'm not a great TF2 player, but I manage fine by merely listening and using the 'yes/no' keybinds every now n then. I did however discover, with some practice and applied skill, its possible to capture points and get headshots without shouting ****** or ****** as you do it.

 

[Merteg]

Do we know what he said?

 

[LimeJester]

Having Crohn's disease myself I know the effects both physical and mental it can have on a person, but I really can't support this guy. Sure it's a shame he got himself banned when it's his only form of socialization, but if it was such an important facet of his life then you think he would follow the TOS of the forum. I feel for him but unless he actually didn't break the TOS of the site he doesn't have a case, medical conditions or not. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.

 

[LimeJester]

Snip... I do love how he included Crohns though; I mean, I am straining my imagination to figure out a single situation where this is relevant. Does he really have to drag his intestines into this?

You are right, it isn't directly connected. But malnutrition due to Crohn's can manifest itself in some pretty strange ways. It can cause chemical imbalances that lead to erratic behavior. I don't know the extent of his disease, but just think about when you have a cold or flu. You probably don't act like yourself because you are not feeling well, its not uncommon for someone sick to be irritable and last out inappropriately under stress. A cold or flu lasts for a day or two, a week tops, I've personally had a flare of Crohn's since March that is finally settling out. Believe me when I say feeling like absolute shit for an extended period of time puts a huge mental strain on a person and when stressed you end up acting inappropriately. But of course if you don't have the disease or have dealt with someone who has on a daily basis suffered through it, you won't understand the full effects of it. From the list of symptoms it's easy to conclude that it only effects the colon.

None of this though is a justification or a defense for the offender in discussion. I can understand what he is going through, but it's still no reason to get off the hook from your actions. When I mistreat those around me because I am under stress because of my condition I still take responsibility for my actions. I've made many an apology for things I have said, and unfortunately have lost some good friends who could no longer cope. Just because you are in a bad circumstance (financial, medical, or otherwise) doesn't mean you are exempt from responsibility.

 

[timmytom1]

$55,000 sounds like a far too overpriced damage fee for a free online game service that he could just sign himself back up for if he's willing to change a few details.

If I were the lawyer for him I'd be burying my hand in my face and just shaking my head back and forth saying to myself, "You've gotta be kidding me..."

I`m pretty sure that lawyer`s laughing all the way to the bank

 

[Blood_Lined]

I am curious to know as to what he did that was so horrible within the game and it's forum to end up being banned from Resistance and PSN altogether.

 

[Xanadu84]

Snip... I do love how he included Crohns though; I mean, I am straining my imagination to figure out a single situation where this is relevant. Does he really have to drag his intestines into this?

You are right, it isn't directly connected. But malnutrition due to Crohn's can manifest itself in some pretty strange ways. It can cause chemical imbalances that lead to erratic behavior. I don't know the extent of his disease, but just think about when you have a cold or flu. You probably don't act like yourself because you are not feeling well, its not uncommon for someone sick to be irritable and last out inappropriately under stress. A cold or flu lasts for a day or two, a week tops, I've personally had a flare of Crohn's since March that is finally settling out. Believe me when I say feeling like absolute shit for an extended period of time puts a huge mental strain on a person and when stressed you end up acting inappropriately. But of course if you don't have the disease or have dealt with someone who has on a daily basis suffered through it, you won't understand the full effects of it. From the list of symptoms it's easy to conclude that it only effects the colon.

None of this though is a justification or a defense for the offender in discussion. I can understand what he is going through, but it's still no reason to get off the hook from your actions. When I mistreat those around me because I am under stress because of my condition I still take responsibility for my actions. I've made many an apology for things I have said, and unfortunately have lost some good friends who could no longer cope. Just because you are in a bad circumstance (financial, medical, or otherwise) doesn't mean you are exempt from responsibility.

I do have a friend who suffers from Crohns. I remember when he was in the hospital getting several feet of intestines removed, and I remember when he almost had a heart attack from a blood clot after the surgery. He was...probably 21 at the time. Believe me, I have sympathy for his condition, and it would be an excuse for being snappy with someone. But it's not an excuse for meticulously planned, bullshit legal action useing the condition as an excuse. I can say, "poor guy" in regards to his conditions, and think hes an asshole elsewhere. I suspect you agree.

 

[Wini]

I am curious to know as to what he did that was so horrible within the game and it's forum to end up being banned from Resistance and PSN altogether.

Go watch his youtube vids, the links were posted on the last page. Trust me, you will no longer be curious. He even had a video of him abusing a mod, but removed it.

 

[crono738]

I....um......i think this is the most random lawsuit i've ever heard.

World Record perhaps?

More-so than the woman who sued McDonald's because she burned her crotch with coffee?

On topic: Yeah, it sucks that he has those medical issues, but its his own fault for acting like an ass.

 

[thebobmaster_v1legacy]

I....um......i think this is the most random lawsuit i've ever heard.

World Record perhaps?

More-so than the woman who sued McDonald's because she burned her crotch with coffee?

On topic: Yeah, it sucks that he has those medical issues, but its his own fault for acting like an ass.

Or she, you know, sued because they gave her coffee hot enough to cause third-degree burns when she spilled it on her pants without any warning labels whatsoever.

 

[Asciotes]

If this is his only source of socialisation, he shouldn't of screwed it up. There are terms and regulations, And he should know that there are punishments for people who don't follow them. There's no way he'll win the case.

 

[squid5580]

I....um......i think this is the most random lawsuit i've ever heard.

World Record perhaps?

More-so than the woman who sued McDonald's because she burned her crotch with coffee?

On topic: Yeah, it sucks that he has those medical issues, but its his own fault for acting like an ass.

Or she, you know, sued because they gave her coffee hot enough to cause third-degree burns when she spilled it on her pants without any warning labels whatsoever.

OK what???? Coffee is hot. I thought that was common knowledge. Couldn't one still sue since the label doesn't read "may be hot enough to burn you." And would having the label on the cup in the first place make the coffe magic? So it could defy the laws of physics and gravity and not burn her.

 

[Undercover]

I....um......i think this is the most random lawsuit i've ever heard.

World Record perhaps?

More-so than the woman who sued McDonald's because she burned her crotch with coffee?

On topic: Yeah, it sucks that he has those medical issues, but its his own fault for acting like an ass.

Or she, you know, sued because they gave her coffee hot enough to cause third-degree burns when she spilled it on her pants without any warning labels whatsoever.

Please tell me you're kidding. No, seriously tell me you're kidding. When you buy a fresh cup of coffee, any reasonable person would assume that it is in fact, HOT. That entire lawsuit was nothing more than a cash-grab by yet another blood sucking lawyer, yes the coffee was too hot, but also yes, the woman was an idiot for putting it in her crotch in the first place. She didn't break the bank with her settlement, and most likely had to give the majority of it to her ambulance chaser. What, did you think that McDonald's didn't appeal? The only effect this lawsuit had was to incite thousands of frivolous 'copycat' suits by morons looking to make a quick buck, and the sudden appearance of asinine warning labels such as "Do not iron clothes while wearing them." Come on, get real already. Do you need a warning label on a steak knife that says "Do not stab into eye?" (BTW there WAS a warning on the coffee cup, it was just apparently too small to read. Do some research -I did- before you go firing off a knee-jerk post.)

Anyway, back to the topic at hand, I'm with all the other posters who want to know just what did this guy say on the forum that got him banned. I personally hope that this doesn't even go to trial, because just like the aforementioned McDonald's case, it will simply cause a clog of the court system with more and more ridiculous lawsuits stemming from similar bans.

Why can't we all just get along?

 

[Lord Mountbatten Reborn]

Why is this fool bothering with PSN when we all know he would be much better off if he were to socialise on the Escapist? The topics are certainly more interesting, such as this one.

And to be more On-Topic, I share the view of the majority of folks here: It's definitely horrific that he has these problems, but nothing excuses being a dick in the first place. Asking, nay, demanding, piles of money when piles of money were never due proves such matters.

 

[Jumplion]

OK what???? Coffee is hot. I thought that was common knowledge. Couldn't one still sue since the label doesn't read "may be hot enough to burn you." And would having the label on the cup in the first place make the coffe magic? So it could defy the laws of physics and gravity and not burn her.

Hey, no warning, easy opportunity to sue. It's kind of like having a porn site with no "You must be 18+ to view this site", without having one you could have a whole plethorea of lawsuits.

Besides, third degree burns. Ouch.

Please tell me you're kidding. No, seriously tell me you're kidding. When you buy a fresh cup of coffee, any reasonable person would assume that it is in fact, HOT. That entire lawsuit was nothing more than a cash-grab by yet another blood sucking lawyer, yes the coffee was too hot, but also yes, the woman was an idiot for putting it in her crotch in the first place. She didn't break the bank with her settlement, and most likely had to give the majority of it to her ambulance chaser. What, did you think that McDonald's didn't appeal? The only effect this lawsuit had was to incite thousands of frivolous 'copycat' suits by morons looking to make a quick buck, and the sudden appearance of asinine warning labels such as "Do not iron clothes while wearing them." Come on, get real already. Do you need a warning label on a steak knife that says "Do not stab into eye?" (BTW there WAS a warning on the coffee cup, it was just apparently too small to read. Do some research -I did- before you go firing off a knee-jerk post.)

Obviously, it was an accident. Of course coffee is hot, though unless it's two seconds off the cofee maker, it's usually not enough to get you third degree burns. That's the worst type of degree I do so believe.

Though MickyDee's did learn to make warning labels legible, make sure cofee is not enough to burn someone's face off, and don't screw around. There were many other similar cases with the cofee before, but McDonalds did nothing about any of those, so it was only a matter of time before someone did something.

 

[Glerken]

Whatever happened to simply filing an appeal...

 

[thebobmaster_v1legacy]

OK what???? Coffee is hot. I thought that was common knowledge. Couldn't one still sue since the label doesn't read "may be hot enough to burn you." And would having the label on the cup in the first place make the coffe magic? So it could defy the laws of physics and gravity and not burn her.

Hey, no warning, easy opportunity to sue. It's kind of like having a porn site with no "You must be 18+ to view this site", without having one you could have a whole plethorea of lawsuits.

Besides, third degree burns. Ouch.

Please tell me you're kidding. No, seriously tell me you're kidding. When you buy a fresh cup of coffee, any reasonable person would assume that it is in fact, HOT. That entire lawsuit was nothing more than a cash-grab by yet another blood sucking lawyer, yes the coffee was too hot, but also yes, the woman was an idiot for putting it in her crotch in the first place. She didn't break the bank with her settlement, and most likely had to give the majority of it to her ambulance chaser. What, did you think that McDonald's didn't appeal? The only effect this lawsuit had was to incite thousands of frivolous 'copycat' suits by morons looking to make a quick buck, and the sudden appearance of asinine warning labels such as "Do not iron clothes while wearing them." Come on, get real already. Do you need a warning label on a steak knife that says "Do not stab into eye?" (BTW there WAS a warning on the coffee cup, it was just apparently too small to read. Do some research -I did- before you go firing off a knee-jerk post.)

Obviously, it was an accident. Of course coffee is hot, though unless it's two seconds off the cofee maker, it's usually not enough to get you third degree burns. That's the worst type of degree I do so believe.

Though MickyDee's did learn to make warning labels legible, make sure cofee is not enough to burn someone's face off, and don't screw around. There were many other similar cases with the cofee before, but McDonalds did nothing about any of those, so it was only a matter of time before someone did something.

Exactly my point, Jumplion. It wasn't the fact that the coffee burned her, any moron could realize that coffee=hot. But would you expect coffee spilled on your pants to give you third degree burns? To give you an idea, she needed skin grafts. Because she spilled coffee on herself. Mickey D's actually said they served coffee at 180 degrees, because they believed that people didn't drink their coffee until they got home. For more information, please look at this overview of the pertinent facts [http://www.caoc.com/CA/index.cfm?event=showPage&pg=facts].

 

[squid5580]

OK what???? Coffee is hot. I thought that was common knowledge. Couldn't one still sue since the label doesn't read "may be hot enough to burn you." And would having the label on the cup in the first place make the coffe magic? So it could defy the laws of physics and gravity and not burn her.

Hey, no warning, easy opportunity to sue. It's kind of like having a porn site with no "You must be 18+ to view this site", without having one you could have a whole plethorea of lawsuits.

Besides, third degree burns. Ouch.

Please tell me you're kidding. No, seriously tell me you're kidding. When you buy a fresh cup of coffee, any reasonable person would assume that it is in fact, HOT. That entire lawsuit was nothing more than a cash-grab by yet another blood sucking lawyer, yes the coffee was too hot, but also yes, the woman was an idiot for putting it in her crotch in the first place. She didn't break the bank with her settlement, and most likely had to give the majority of it to her ambulance chaser. What, did you think that McDonald's didn't appeal? The only effect this lawsuit had was to incite thousands of frivolous 'copycat' suits by morons looking to make a quick buck, and the sudden appearance of asinine warning labels such as "Do not iron clothes while wearing them." Come on, get real already. Do you need a warning label on a steak knife that says "Do not stab into eye?" (BTW there WAS a warning on the coffee cup, it was just apparently too small to read. Do some research -I did- before you go firing off a knee-jerk post.)

Obviously, it was an accident. Of course coffee is hot, though unless it's two seconds off the cofee maker, it's usually not enough to get you third degree burns. That's the worst type of degree I do so believe.

Though MickyDee's did learn to make warning labels legible, make sure cofee is not enough to burn someone's face off, and don't screw around. There were many other similar cases with the cofee before, but McDonalds did nothing about any of those, so it was only a matter of time before someone did something.

Where I do get what you are saying it isn't like the label could have prevented the accident in the first place. Personally I'd like my coffee to be that hot. At least the warning on the site could prevent someone from seeing something that they might not want to see. Well at least someone whose parents don't want them to see. Having to warn someone about a hot beverage where you can see the steam comin off (or the Superman outfit) come on. If you are intelligent enough to read it well you should be intelligent enough to know better.