I'm torn... On the one hand, it's all shit... on the other hand it could lead to mocap suit with force feedback and machine washable crotch.Sakurazaki1023 said:
You can see my dilema.
Ah shit, it's Oprah.
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You can see my dilema.
Eh, she can't make it any better than it is. They might sell more copies, but that doesn't mean it will be a success. People have to buy the games, too.
"Hey, the generic core gamer demographic hates both Oprah AND Motion-controls! Let's make a thread about both of them and then proceed to insult them!"
Seriously, if yall were talking about, say, Gabe Newell in the same way you were talking about Oprah here, yall'd be banned and socially ostracized on the 'Scapist quicker than you can put your own foot in your mouth.
Can we just give the, "No one likes the Kinect" mantra a rest for a moment? This is obviously just an advertising scheme, just like every other time a celebrity blatantly promotes a product on their show. Its not a new concept, and it doesn't make her any more evil or sellout-ish than any other household name.
Really, if you watched Extra Credits, you should be thanking her, because this means more sales for the Kinect (that you don't have to be involved with at all), and if the new wave of motion controls doesn't return any revenue, its bad news for the entire industry.
Seriously, if yall were talking about, say, Gabe Newell in the same way you were talking about Oprah here, yall'd be banned and socially ostracized on the 'Scapist quicker than you can put your own foot in your mouth.
Can we just give the, "No one likes the Kinect" mantra a rest for a moment? This is obviously just an advertising scheme, just like every other time a celebrity blatantly promotes a product on their show. Its not a new concept, and it doesn't make her any more evil or sellout-ish than any other household name.
Really, if you watched Extra Credits, you should be thanking her, because this means more sales for the Kinect (that you don't have to be involved with at all), and if the new wave of motion controls doesn't return any revenue, its bad news for the entire industry.
Well done Microsoft, you've just pulled off one of the biggest marketing coups possible. I clap my hands at this.
*claps hands*
This is how they'll break into the Wii market.
*claps hands*
This is how they'll break into the Wii market.
Am I the only one who fucking hates Oprah. There has always been something that rubs be wrong about her.
I believe (I might be wrong I am getting older) that not too long ago Oprah featured a new piece of technology on her show and gave it her thumbs up, showed how easy it could be used, etc. That little product was called TiVo. How's it working out for them? Not saying Oprah is the only reason TiVo took off, but she certainly helped.tanis1lionheart said:
We have obsessions with keeping up with the Jones's and a being like our fave celebrities - that's why endorsements often work. RayBan sunglasses owe a debt of gratitude to Tom Cruise/Risky Business and they didn't even have to pay for that little placement. Some prop guy just thought they looked good. All those Oprah guests go home their neighbors come over and ooh and ahh... and go out and buy one for themselves. Feeling confident in their purchase because Oprah likes it so it can't be bad. If they buy it and they don't like it, there is something wrong with them because Oprah is a celebrity and she just knows stuff. Plus people need to defend their purchases -- fanboy syndrome -- if they convince someone else to buy one it makes them feel better they aren't alone in their stupidity.
It may go the way of the Game Glove or Virtual Boy concepts in time, but it also may go the way of the TiVo.
The problem isn't so much that we care here. I can guarantee most of the people who frequent this page couldn't give a flying f*** about Oprah. The issue is that this furthers the casual gamer and motion capture agenda that many of us are against. Love her or hate her, the sheep listen to Oprah. If she says buy it, they will.
That comment should be preserved, I mean, if you're going to be eating those words you'd rather they were kept fresh wouldn't you?Sakurazaki1023 said:
Don't get me wrong, I'm yet to see an implementation of motion controls which actually add anything to my gaming experience. But given the level of investment, the level of interest and hell the sales, they are not going to fade into irrelevance quickly.
Arrgh! I would have wanted that. I could have sold the kinect and kept the 360 for parts when mine inevitably breaks.
The problem I have with the motion control craze is that while motion sensing virtual reality may be the future of games, the current devices on the market are not designed to increase immersion or improve the gaming experience. Instead of finding ways to integrate the player into the game, most of the current devices seem geared toward the gimmick appeal. The idea that you can control a game by pointing at the screen is meant to be more interesting than the game experience. By focusing on the interface gimmick, they are ripping any possible immersion out of a game.number2301 said:
It's not that I dislike motion controls, I dislike any controller that increases the time between thought and action. As Yahtzee put it in his Kinect and Move XP, controllers allow you to control complex actions with very simple physical movements. As motion controls stand, they require far too input from the player that serves to only break immersion.
This.Sakurazaki1023 said:
The entire point of playing games is to escape reality for bit. Bringing too much reality into games through motion controls makes the games have too much reality. And we all know reality sucks.
Why would Microft care? They still sold the consoles and kinects. Remember, Oprah fans are as close as you can get to sheep without actual sheep and she's their shepherd. They'll do whatever she tells them and she said this thing is good. Therefore, they'll buy lots of games for it too.Cpu46 said:
I don't see the reason for the hostility towards Oprah, or any strong feelings about her at all. Unless it's just more of the tendency for some folks around here to hate someone on some twisted principle just because they are popular.
Anyway, I saw a clip of it. She had a look on her face like "what the hell does this audience want with an Xbox?"
Whatever, really. Microsoft has poured a lot of money into this thing, so you can't blame them for targeting that demographic. You might can even look at this as good news for current Xbox owners: If they're marketing Kinect more towards young children and their parents, they might realize there isn't much point pushing it on us.
Anyway, I saw a clip of it. She had a look on her face like "what the hell does this audience want with an Xbox?"
Whatever, really. Microsoft has poured a lot of money into this thing, so you can't blame them for targeting that demographic. You might can even look at this as good news for current Xbox owners: If they're marketing Kinect more towards young children and their parents, they might realize there isn't much point pushing it on us.