Aion Shooting For 2nd Place To WoW

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Too bad Aion isn't a WoW killer, fanboy.

It's a PvP-focused game, as opposed to WoW's PvE focus.

You said WoW beats the competition in every region. It doesn't, so next time, be more precise or less rage next time.

edit: Forgot, Aion is also bigger in Korea, where WoW exists too.
Hahahahahahahahahahaha

PvP Focused? Oh really? New to MMOs much? Enjoy your NC Soft game because you will be not playing it in 6 months.

I would honestly love to give my time to another game but there is litteraly nothing on par with World of Warcraft, PvE or PvP alike.
 

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Abedeus said:
Too bad Aion isn't a WoW killer, fanboy.

It's a PvP-focused game, as opposed to WoW's PvE focus.

You said WoW beats the competition in every region. It doesn't, so next time, be more precise or less rage next time.

edit: Forgot, Aion is also bigger in Korea, where WoW exists too.
Hahahahahahahahahahaha

PvP Focused? Oh really? New to MMOs much? Enjoy your NC Soft game because you will be not playing it in 6 months.

I would honestly love to give my time to another game but there is litteraly nothing on par with World of Warcraft, PvE or PvP alike.
...Wow. PvP. Sorry, but no matter how many funny videos you made, that's just... uhh. I don't think there is a word for it.

Yes, Aion is PvP-focused. Most of the game is Abyss or Rifting. Hell, the endgame is about capturing fortresses and holding them.

Now please, stop showing your WoW fanboyism.

I tried playing WoW, I tried it 3 times, but by the 3rd time, I couldn't even go past level 5 of trial. It was just too God damn boring. Every MMO is now better than WoW for me.
 

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I tried playing WoW, I tried it 3 times, but by the 3rd time, I couldn't even go past level 5 of trial.
Everyone see this quote? I would like it framed and on my wall as it will always bring me great joy. Thanks for proving my point 1000 times over.
 

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Abedeus said:
SirSchmoopy said:
Abedeus said:
Too bad Aion isn't a WoW killer, fanboy.

It's a PvP-focused game, as opposed to WoW's PvE focus.

You said WoW beats the competition in every region. It doesn't, so next time, be more precise or less rage next time.

edit: Forgot, Aion is also bigger in Korea, where WoW exists too.
Hahahahahahahahahahaha

PvP Focused? Oh really? New to MMOs much? Enjoy your NC Soft game because you will be not playing it in 6 months.

I would honestly love to give my time to another game but there is litteraly nothing on par with World of Warcraft, PvE or PvP alike.
...Wow. PvP. Sorry, but no matter how many funny videos you made, that's just... uhh. I don't think there is a word for it.

Yes, Aion is PvP-focused. Most of the game is Abyss or Rifting. Hell, the endgame is about capturing fortresses and holding them.

Now please, stop showing your WoW fanboyism.

I tried playing WoW, I tried it 3 times, but by the 3rd time, I couldn't even go past level 5 of trial. It was just too God damn boring. Every MMO is now better than WoW for me.
so your prefer runescape to wow... your weird

anywho i do not think that the lore will be as good or in depht as wow
 

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so your prefer runescape to wow... your weird

anywho i do not think that the lore will be as good or in depht as wow
I've never played WoW, but I've purchased Aion. I've also never played Runescape, DAoC, Eve, or Planetside. Fanboi, AWAY!
 

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SirSchmoopy said:
Abedeus said:
I tried playing WoW, I tried it 3 times, but by the 3rd time, I couldn't even go past level 5 of trial.
Everyone see this quote? I would like it framed and on my wall as it will always bring me great joy. Thanks for proving my point 1000 times over.
Yeah, WoW didn't interest me even for 5 minutes. That was your point? That WoW has 60/70/80 boring levels before you can try to enjoy it?

What makes you think I would suffer for 50 or 60 more levels (I got to 10 before I got bored) just to see "endgame"? Why should I pay $20 and then $15 a month if I'm going to be bored out of my mind? See, I don't like games where I click on enemy and forget about it. I tried that in Aion, and after a minute I noticed that both my and monster's health is in 50%. Translation - combat is more engaging. And requires at least the attention span of a retarded poodle.

Btw - You can stop showing off now, we all know you're a fanboy. What happened to your WAR guild, btw? It gave up and returned to the old game?

lightspeed said:
Abedeus said:
SirSchmoopy said:
Abedeus said:
Too bad Aion isn't a WoW killer, fanboy.

It's a PvP-focused game, as opposed to WoW's PvE focus.

You said WoW beats the competition in every region. It doesn't, so next time, be more precise or less rage next time.

edit: Forgot, Aion is also bigger in Korea, where WoW exists too.
Hahahahahahahahahahaha

PvP Focused? Oh really? New to MMOs much? Enjoy your NC Soft game because you will be not playing it in 6 months.

I would honestly love to give my time to another game but there is litteraly nothing on par with World of Warcraft, PvE or PvP alike.
...Wow. PvP. Sorry, but no matter how many funny videos you made, that's just... uhh. I don't think there is a word for it.

Yes, Aion is PvP-focused. Most of the game is Abyss or Rifting. Hell, the endgame is about capturing fortresses and holding them.

Now please, stop showing your WoW fanboyism.

I tried playing WoW, I tried it 3 times, but by the 3rd time, I couldn't even go past level 5 of trial. It was just too God damn boring. Every MMO is now better than WoW for me.
so your prefer runescape to wow... your weird

anywho i do not think that the lore will be as good or in depht as wow
Is everyone playing WoW using such arguments? "You don't like my game, then you must like Runescape".

Yes, I tried playing Runescape when my GPU was busted and couldn't play anything besides Diablo 2. I couldn't see what's so great about it, but then again, outside of the community it's viewed as shite.

Also - that's like saying "I doubt Aion's lore will be as good or in depth as LotrO's!". Guess why? BECAUSE IT'S THE FIRST GAME IN THE FRANCHISE!! Warcraft has existed for so long, I'd be surprised if they hadn't exploited the lore created by previous games.

It's not like you're interested in lore, considering how most of the endgame is just raids + "PvP". Because WoW is a highly respected game in terms of PvP combat and balance, right?
 

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Abedeus said:
SirSchmoopy said:
Abedeus said:
I tried playing WoW, I tried it 3 times, but by the 3rd time, I couldn't even go past level 5 of trial.
Everyone see this quote? I would like it framed and on my wall as it will always bring me great joy. Thanks for proving my point 1000 times over.
Yeah, WoW didn't interest me even for 5 minutes. That was your point? That WoW has 60/70/80 boring levels before you can try to enjoy it?

What makes you think I would suffer for 50 or 60 more levels (I got to 10 before I got bored) just to see "endgame"? Why should I pay $20 and then $15 a month if I'm going to be bored out of my mind? See, I don't like games where I click on enemy and forget about it. I tried that in Aion, and after a minute I noticed that both my and monster's health is in 50%. Translation - combat is more engaging. And requires at least the attention span of a retarded poodle.

Btw - You can stop showing off now, we all know you're a fanboy. What happened to your WAR guild, btw? It gave up and returned to the old game?
Now resorting to personal attacks. The tears... they are just so tasty.
 

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SirSchmoopy said:
Abedeus said:
SirSchmoopy said:
Abedeus said:
I tried playing WoW, I tried it 3 times, but by the 3rd time, I couldn't even go past level 5 of trial.
Everyone see this quote? I would like it framed and on my wall as it will always bring me great joy. Thanks for proving my point 1000 times over.
Yeah, WoW didn't interest me even for 5 minutes. That was your point? That WoW has 60/70/80 boring levels before you can try to enjoy it?

What makes you think I would suffer for 50 or 60 more levels (I got to 10 before I got bored) just to see "endgame"? Why should I pay $20 and then $15 a month if I'm going to be bored out of my mind? See, I don't like games where I click on enemy and forget about it. I tried that in Aion, and after a minute I noticed that both my and monster's health is in 50%. Translation - combat is more engaging. And requires at least the attention span of a retarded poodle.

Btw - You can stop showing off now, we all know you're a fanboy. What happened to your WAR guild, btw? It gave up and returned to the old game?
Now resorting to personal attacks. The tears... they are just so tasty.
You are feeding on your own tears? Weird.

I don't see your counter-arguments. Just admit already that you don't like the idea of anything being better at something than your Shining Game Of Awesomeness And Glory. The sooner you do it, the faster you can get some help for fanboyism.
 

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Abedeus said:
SirSchmoopy said:
Abedeus said:
SirSchmoopy said:
Abedeus said:
I tried playing WoW, I tried it 3 times, but by the 3rd time, I couldn't even go past level 5 of trial.
Everyone see this quote? I would like it framed and on my wall as it will always bring me great joy. Thanks for proving my point 1000 times over.
Yeah, WoW didn't interest me even for 5 minutes. That was your point? That WoW has 60/70/80 boring levels before you can try to enjoy it?

What makes you think I would suffer for 50 or 60 more levels (I got to 10 before I got bored) just to see "endgame"? Why should I pay $20 and then $15 a month if I'm going to be bored out of my mind? See, I don't like games where I click on enemy and forget about it. I tried that in Aion, and after a minute I noticed that both my and monster's health is in 50%. Translation - combat is more engaging. And requires at least the attention span of a retarded poodle.

Btw - You can stop showing off now, we all know you're a fanboy. What happened to your WAR guild, btw? It gave up and returned to the old game?
Now resorting to personal attacks. The tears... they are just so tasty.
You are feeding on your own tears? Weird.

I don't see your counter-arguments. Just admit already that you don't like the idea of anything being better at something than your Shining Game Of Awesomeness And Glory. The sooner you do it, the faster you can get some help for fanboyism.
I don't quite remember claiming any game was a shining game of awesome you simply assume that and claim Aion as jesus christ reincarnated in MMORPG format.

If a blunt answer is required for you to understand my viewpoint then here you go.

You are claiming an NC Soft game called Aion is an end all be all of extreme PvP glory when if you had played Linage 1/2, Guild Wars or even City of Heroes, you might... just might be able to understand my position on why Aion is a flavor of the month game. Do you enjoy sitting in your room grinding for hours to get from level 68 to 69? Because the Asian MMORPG market does and hence why there games constantly revolve around the idea that Time = Skill, Guild Wars being "Somewhat" of an exception but even then still requiring insane amounts of grinding for the simplest of things is why I am telling you that these games, NC Soft games are flavor of the month games in the US Market.

If you end up playing this game for more then 6 months then you would also love Guild Wars and Linage 2 but to the majority of North American gamers this is just more of the same.

You are playing the exact same game I played 5 years ago. Nothing in Aion is innovative or advances the industry at all. Nothing. It is a cookie cutter copy cat of a mix of NC Soft titles, other East Coast MMORPGS and ... TA DAH World of Warcraft. Anytime I see an article or forum post about Aion it never talks about why the game is so good but why the game is better then World of Warcraft and THAT, my friend, in it's self is exactly the point. It's not trying to be anything new, it's just trying to be more of the god damn same thing and sorry but that is all NC Soft does.

I'm not trying to persuade you or tell you X game is better then Y because most MMORPGs come down to preference and time your able to commit to it. All I'm trying to get across here is that coming in here and high fiving eachother that this is the greatest MMORPG to ever be created and all other MMORPGs are terrible is exactly what the Warhammer comunity did, what the Age of Conan community did, what the Vanguard community did, what the Shadowbane community did, hell it was what the Warcraft community did back when me and my friends were still playing Everquest and Dark age of Camelot and my guess is of all those games you might not have heard them all.

Aion is without a doubt a flavor of the month game. It has the standard classes, standard race types, same old experience system, a bunch of lovely graphics and gimmicks and a system of PvP that has been done before and I promise you, PROMISE you done better. Although of course this is just my opinion but in 10 years when your on a forum and some new guy is talking about X game and how there new FLYING PVP SYSTEM IS AMAZING maybe just maybe you'll look back and understand where I'm coming from because every mmo I see the exact same thing.



With that I'm out. Let the high fiving of Aion continue.
 

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I don't quite remember claiming any game was a shining game of awesome you simply assume that and claim Aion as jesus christ reincarnated in MMORPG format.
Thanks for a normal post for once. Well, almost. But now I see that all the things you "know" about Aion are nothing more but wild assumptions.

Well, since you try defending WoW at every place, advertise your guild on FR's site just like you advertised your... what was it called? La Revolucion? Something like that.

You are claiming an NC Soft game called Aion is an end all be all of extreme PvP glory when if you had played Linage 1/2, Guild Wars or even City of Heroes, you might... just might be able to understand my position on why Aion is a flavor of the month game. Do you enjoy sitting in your room grinding for hours to get from level 68 to 69? Because the Asian MMORPG market does and hence why there games constantly revolve around the idea that Time = Skill, Guild Wars being "Somewhat" of an exception but even then still requiring insane amounts of grinding for the simplest of things is why I am telling you that these games, NC Soft games are flavor of the month games in the US Market.
Hmm.... I have played all of those games you mentioned. While Lineage 2 hasn't interested me at all, I played CoH/CoV for about 2 months (then I noticed Champions Online was a much promising Superhero game - I wasn't mistaken), and I have been playing Guild Wars for the last 3,5 years. And I can tell you how VERY wrong you are.

GW is an Arena Net game. American company, you know? Same goes for CoH - Cryptic Studios, again American. NCSoft is only publishing them, the only games they created on their own were Lineage games and Aion.

So, you are claiming that Guild Wars requires insane amounts of grinding for the simplest things... Okay, those things being... What? Do you have to grind to get into PvE groups? No, you just need the correct build. In the worst case, you might not have the correct skillset. Then you spend 8k (a pathetic number) on new skills, one of them elite, so you might have to GASP! capture it. Nevermind, everyone can be wrong... Do you have to grind for PvE endgame? Not anymore, thanks to Ursan Blessing nerf. Now there are more classes wanted. Or you can just join a good guild and not worry about flavor of the motnh builds.

Not to mention that for a Flavor of the Month, Guild Wars has sold 6 millions of copies.

If you end up playing this game for more then 6 months then you would also love Guild Wars and Linage 2 but to the majority of North American gamers this is just more of the same.
Yes, I love Guild Wars. But not Lineage 2. Two different companies, two different worlds. One is a Korean MMO, and the other is an American MMO.

You are playing the exact same game I played 5 years ago. Nothing in Aion is innovative or advances the industry at all. Nothing. It is a cookie cutter copy cat of a mix of NC Soft titles, other East Coast MMORPGS and ... TA DAH World of Warcraft. Anytime I see an article or forum post about Aion it never talks about why the game is so good but why the game is better then World of Warcraft and THAT, my friend, in it's self is exactly the point. It's not trying to be anything new, it's just trying to be more of the god damn same thing and sorry but that is all NC Soft does.
Oh, I forgot that WoW created a lot of innovative things the day it came out... Uh... Those being... Massive PvP?! No, DAoC... Endgame content?! No... every other MMO game has it... MOUNTS?!... Nah. I love how you call Aion a "cookie cutter copycat" instead of a blunt fanboyish "WoW Clone!!11". Especially since WoW copied almost everything from older games.

Okay, something that isn't in other MMOs - Aerial PvP combat.

I'm not trying to persuade you or tell you X game is better then Y because most MMORPGs come down to preference and time your able to commit to it. All I'm trying to get across here is that coming in here and high fiving eachother that this is the greatest MMORPG to ever be created and all other MMORPGs are terrible is exactly what the Warhammer comunity did, what the Age of Conan community did, what the Vanguard community did, what the Shadowbane community did, hell it was what the Warcraft community did back when me and my friends were still playing Everquest and Dark age of Camelot and my guess is of all those games you might not have heard them all.
Those games failed because developers wasted their potential. No patches, no bug fixes, no PvP balance. Except for DAoC, those other games you mentioned might as well be closed... some are.

And you guessed that I haven't heard of all those games? Guess again.

Aion is without a doubt a flavor of the month game. It has the standard classes, standard race types, same old experience system, a bunch of lovely graphics and gimmicks and a system of PvP that has been done before and I promise you, PROMISE you done better. Although of course this is just my opinion but in 10 years when your on a forum and some new guy is talking about X game and how there new FLYING PVP SYSTEM IS AMAZING maybe just maybe you'll look back and understand where I'm coming from because every mmo I see the exact same thing.

Flavor of the month, you mean November 2008 - now?

Also, I am a sworn enemy of Korean MMO's grinding and sloooow leveling. But this wasn't the case with Aion. You know why? Because they managed to take what's best from the Western MMOs and Eastern ones.

You can't, you simply CAN'T guess what will happen in 10 years. Look where we were 10 years ago - a lot of people didn't even know what the Internet was, games were fugly and multiplayer modes were small and buggy. Not to mention that an average PC was two times more expensive than today.
With that I'm out. Let the high fiving of Aion continue.
Aww thank you. Go play your precious WoW and grind, to grind, to grind some more, to grind even some more.
 

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Abedeus said:
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Abedeus said:
I tried playing WoW, I tried it 3 times, but by the 3rd time, I couldn't even go past level 5 of trial. It was just too God damn boring. Every MMO is now better than WoW for me.
so your prefer runescape to wow... your weird

anywho i do not think that the lore will be as good or in depht as wow
Is everyone playing WoW using such arguments? "You don't like my game, then you must like Runescape".

Yes, I tried playing Runescape when my GPU was busted and couldn't play anything besides Diablo 2. I couldn't see what's so great about it, but then again, outside of the community it's viewed as shite.

Also - that's like saying "I doubt Aion's lore will be as good or in depth as LotrO's!". Guess why? BECAUSE IT'S THE FIRST GAME IN THE FRANCHISE!! Warcraft has existed for so long, I'd be surprised if they hadn't exploited the lore created by previous games.

i was not using the same "you don't like wow so you must be a runescape fanboy!!!" you said "every MMO is now better than WoW for me" so i thought of a mmo i thought was shit and people knew what it was. runescape came to mind... i still have nightmares about that game!

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It's not like you're interested in lore, considering how most of the endgame is just raids + "PvP". Because WoW is a highly respected game in terms of PvP combat and balance, right?

and yes im one of the strange people who is intrested in wow lore its the reason i started playing the game :p and if you had played wow for more than 5 minutes you would have realised alot of the end games raid are not only fun but based on wow lore :O
 

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lightspeed said:
Abedeus said:
lightspeed said:
Abedeus said:
I tried playing WoW, I tried it 3 times, but by the 3rd time, I couldn't even go past level 5 of trial. It was just too God damn boring. Every MMO is now better than WoW for me.
so your prefer runescape to wow... your weird

anywho i do not think that the lore will be as good or in depht as wow
Is everyone playing WoW using such arguments? "You don't like my game, then you must like Runescape".

Yes, I tried playing Runescape when my GPU was busted and couldn't play anything besides Diablo 2. I couldn't see what's so great about it, but then again, outside of the community it's viewed as shite.

Also - that's like saying "I doubt Aion's lore will be as good or in depth as LotrO's!". Guess why? BECAUSE IT'S THE FIRST GAME IN THE FRANCHISE!! Warcraft has existed for so long, I'd be surprised if they hadn't exploited the lore created by previous games.

i was not using the same "you don't like wow so you must be a runescape fanboy!!!" you said "every MMO is now better than WoW for me" so i thought of a mmo i thought was shit and people knew what it was. runescape came to mind... i still have nightmares about that game!
Yeah, but I was talking more about P2P MMOs... All F2P suck. A bit more or a bit less, but all do.
 

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Well, good luck to them then. Blizzard has just good to get from some competition, as it seems to me that they've become a tad lazy with the last updates. This will force both sides to deliver better stuff to stay ahead. The real winner here is the customer if Aion is succesfull.

I could care less though, as I've given up on MMOs for quite some time, but I don't regret most of the time playing.
 

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Abedeus said:
Irrelevant flaming.

Personal attacks don't help prove your point whatever it might be. Also I'm not sure why you keep bringing up my Warhammer guild. The majority of my Warhammer guild moved back to form our Warcraft guild when the game became stale. Like I said in one of MY FIRST POSTS about this game, if you liked Guild Wars you will like Aion but if you are ANYONE ELSE it's more of the same and nothing to bother with. Sigh just calm down the nerdrage seriously man, I'm not trying to turn YOU off the game, I'm just expressing my opinion on the internet. Jesus.

Oh by the way. Aerial PvP was done in Shadow Bane and that was in... 2002?
 

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SirSchmoopy said:
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Irrelevant flaming.

Personal attacks don't help prove your point whatever it might be. Also I'm not sure why you keep bringing up my Warhammer guild. The majority of my Warhammer guild moved back to form our Warcraft guild when the game became stale. Like I said in one of MY FIRST POSTS about this game, if you liked Guild Wars you will like Aion but if you are ANYONE ELSE it's more of the same and nothing to bother with. Sigh just calm down the nerdrage seriously man, I'm not trying to turn YOU off the game, I'm just expressing my opinion on the internet. Jesus.
Look who's nerdraging. Personal attacks don't prove points, but avoiding questions also doesn't.

Oh by the way. Aerial PvP was done in Shadow Bane and that was in... 2002?
Perhaps it wasn't done good enough for anyone to remember it. Also, maybe because it was a free, not-too-good game that was full of ads.


edit: Now I noticed you called my post offending F2P games "Irrelevant flaming". Care to address the actual response?
 

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Why is it so important to beat WoW? Isn't it enough to have 500.000 regular customers?

And with the success in Asia there's a base for keeping the servers running there if the rest of the world doesn't want to play Aion.
 

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wrote an entire term paper on why Guild Wars, and other MMOs they helped with for publisher NCsoft) is sadly ignored by the media; if not by players, considering that it IS the only MMO to come close to WoW's reported player base: Guild Wars has 6.5 million players, and lately that number is growing at about 1 million players every 6 months.
One thing that no one seems to be aware of is the fact that the founders and studio heads of ArenaNet (The studio that makes GW) were also the ORIGINAL TEAM LEADS FOR WoW; as well as DIABLO & Diablo II; Warcraft III; Starcraft; and Starcraft Broodwars. Not to mention Battle.Net....also the invention of one of the three founders Mike O'Brien; Patrick Wyatt; and Jeff Strain; and soon after James Phinneay (another former Blizzard designer) followed and came onboard and is now Lead Designer.
Believe me Blizzard disciples; I know how great Blizzard was...But these guys were integral parts of the original Blizzard genius game machine; and they left because they wanted to create a different type of MMO; and they put all their skill into GW.
You can see elements of all the previously aforementioned Blizzard games these guys have under their belts in Guild Wars; and they're doing even more in GW2, what with the races and player actions have definite and permanent consequences for themselves and the NPCs in the surrounding environment...supposedly if you ignore a violent herd of centaurs around a fort, for instance; the Centaur population will grow out of control and they will eventually capture and hold/defend the fort; rendering it unusable until player band together and retake the town.
Personally I like that...sorry to be so long winded; but it has always irritated me that no one acknowledges the role ArenaNet's founders played in creating Blizzard's legend; seemingly because they're no longer team players for Blizzard.
Just because it's not synomyous to regular society with MMorpugger; doesn't mean it's an inferior game.
I know 10 former Wowers, including my own 6 month foray into that game; who, after actually playing Guild Wars consistently for about a month; renounced Wow and deleted their accts...especially once they got to the end game four hour; five quest chain elite missions and dungeons. and these were players who illustrated the common epithet: WoW ruined my life; or at least consumed it. They'd quit Wow before for Conan; Warhammer; and other games; but they've converted to Guild Wars, and have been playing for well over a year now.
I would definitely recommend Guild Wars; at least trying the 10 day free trial of all three original campaigns; and also checking out The trailer and interviewx/info about Guild Wars 2, which has now gone into Alpha testing, I believe.

Again, sorry for the length; needed to get that info off my chest and with any luck, into the general gamers' knowledge.
I really think GW2 has a legitimate shot at finally closing their(ArenaNet/NCsoft) gap with Blizzard: they're currently at 6.5 million players to Blizzard's 9 million current subscribers (most recent statistics I could find, sorry if I'm wrong)...I'd call that a legitimate second place easily...especially considering that 15% of WoW players also play Guild Wars.

But I guess time will have to show each of us to be right or wrong: to which I assume we'll all continure to advocate our original opinions despite the facts.
But that's the fun now, ain't it? :)