All-Female Ghostbusters Reboot Officially Happening

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8bitOwl said:
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Yep, let's pick Scarlett Johansson for the comedy role of the everyday person. She's perfect for that. Let's show all ladies in the world THIS is how an everyday woman is like.

Besides, Scarlett is such a talented, amazing actress, amIrite.

Damn, dude. Did Scarlett Johanson steal your lunch money when you were a kid? What's your problem with her other than your opinion that she's a terrible actress.

I instinctively loathe her. It's visceral. She reminds me so much of those vain prom girls with blonde hair that talk like, ohmygosh, really, you know?

You see, the only superheroine us ladies got for the big screen is Black Widow. And she's a dolled up sex fantasy who doesn't even have good acting going for her.

It really, really doesn't send a positive message.

But Black Widow has always had the sexy spy thing going on, it's part of her character. The only time in the movies I can think of where she could be considered a 'sex fantasy' is in Iron Man 2 but there she's playing a role to stay close to Tony Stark.
 

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i hate Social Justice, now i dont know if, when an artist wants to do some gender swapping, it is because he/she wants to experiment with something different or is because of pandering

i guess ill wait and see
 

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Kat Dennings, my god, Kat Dennings. Karen Gillian, Aisha Tyler...

Yeah, this could work. Wish I was better with names though.
 

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In the wise words of Peter K. Rosenthal.

Is that the best you got Hollywood?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9d09JLBVRc
 

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8bitOwl said:
WonkyWarmaiden said:
8bitOwl said:
WonkyWarmaiden said:
8bitOwl said:
Yep, let's pick Scarlett Johansson for the comedy role of the everyday person. She's perfect for that. Let's show all ladies in the world THIS is how an everyday woman is like.

Besides, Scarlett is such a talented, amazing actress, amIrite.

Damn, dude. Did Scarlett Johanson steal your lunch money when you were a kid? What's your problem with her other than your opinion that she's a terrible actress.

I instinctively loathe her. It's visceral. She reminds me so much of those vain prom girls with blonde hair that talk like, ohmygosh, really, you know?

You see, the only superheroine us ladies got for the big screen is Black Widow. And she's a dolled up sex fantasy who doesn't even have good acting going for her.

It really, really doesn't send a positive message.

But Black Widow has always had the sexy spy thing going on, it's part of her character. The only time in the movies I can think of where she could be considered a 'sex fantasy' is in Iron Man 2 but there she's playing a role to stay close to Tony Stark.




A few things.

1) Ultimate Spider-Man introduced Black Widow as sexy AND badass. Doesn't solve the problem but it was a bit of an improvement. The movies do not even try to do that. At all.

2) She is literally the only mainstream Marvel heroine. Heck, she is literally the only mainstream heroine, stop. And the only mainstream heroine we got is a man's sex fantasy. Please do not say she is empowered, because what she does in the movies is literally "hey here's my token action scene. See? Now I demonstrated I totally kick ass. Ok, with that out of the way, please return to admire my tits&ass while the male heroes do everything". Even when she is supposed to be kicking ass, her main concern is not kicking ass but looking sexy while doing so.

3) "Being sexy has always been her thing". Fine, then do not make her the ONLY female protagonist we got. Is it really fair that the only heroine we got is someone whose main thing is being sexy? Do you know kids watch superhero movies? Do you know how many little girls watched Avengers and all that, and learnt that male heroes kick ass, while female heroines can kick ass sometimes as long as they wave their butt and flirt with half the male cast? Do you know those little girls do NOT have another heroine to identify with?

4) A heroine like Black Widow is NOT made for females. She is 100% made for the male audience. Some women will surely try to like her by trying to focus more on her strenght than her sluttiness. But as a general rule, the human brain works like this whenever you are presented with an overly sexy heroine: MALE BRAIN: "she is attractive and showing it - she is sexually available - HAWT!"; FEMALE BRAIN: "she is attractive and showing it - she is sexually available - RIVAL!".
Which is why any female character that is really focused on her sexuality is made for males. Psychologically, when women see a hot chick on screen they do NOT identify with her. Their biology often make them think of her as a competition. Hence, Black Widow is made for the male audience. But male heroes are made for the male audience too. What do we ladies get? Merely a bit of sexy Loki.

5) Scarlett Johansson is a vain slut IRL. I saw an interview with her and I was appalled to see it. I was kinda hoping she was a smart girl playing the sexy doll on screen because it's good money.

We'll just have to agree to disagree about Black Widow in the movies. Just because she's sexy doesn't mean she's slutty, she uses her looks for her job so of course she needs to look good. And it's the movies, everyone's pretty in The Avengers. I do agree it sucks that she's the only female superhero we've been given so far but hopefully Scarlet Witch will fix that in The Avengers 2. Also, come on, don't call Scarlett Johanson names, that's just immature.
 

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Oh no, a "Niche" movie for the whiny vocal minority called "women" that I probably won't ever watch or hear about again!

WHY MUST YOU RUIN MY FILMS LIKE THIS, FEMINISM?!?!
You just don't get it, man. Because the cast are women, they will talk about girl things! And they will force you to go!
 

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NuclearKangaroo said:
i hate Social Justice, now i dont know if, when an artist wants to do some gender swapping, it is because he/she wants to experiment with something different or is because of pandering

i guess ill wait and see
I don't think you know what "social justice" is. I know that the internet froths in a rage at the "social justice warrior," but are you seriously pro-slavery and miscegnation and shit?

Anyway, yeah. I hate pandering. Only straight white dudes should be pandered to.
 

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Darth_Payn said:
Also, Bob, don't think I didn't notice the SEXISM tag at the bottom.
He was just (accurately) predicting the responses to this article. Personally, I'm withholding judgment until I see the cast.
 

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I'm not sure what to think of it, but my concerns don't come from the director or an all-female cast. More that there has been a significant passing of time from the last film to when this one is going to come out, and it might have lost a lot of focus and charm by then. See the latest Indiana Jones film for an example of classic fun films not surviving the transfer very well.
 

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This is going to be interesting and terrifying at the same time. Ghostbusters is iconic. Part of the iconic nature is the cast. But I'm more than willing to give it shot. To me, the film is kind of timeless though, so I feel like reboot is not a good idea for this particular movie.

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Yes. Awesome!

IMO, Scarlett Johansson needs to be in this. She nailed every comedy role she was in.
What comedy roles has she had? I'm not familiar with them.
 

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Zachary Amaranth said:
You just don't get it, man. Because the cast are women, they will talk about girl things! And they will force you to go!
Gosh-darn it! I'LL BET ANITA SARKEESIAN'S BEHIND THIS! IT'S HER KICKSTARTER!!!
 

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Under_your_bed said:
Zachary Amaranth said:
You just don't get it, man. Because the cast are women, they will talk about girl things! And they will force you to go!
Gosh-darn it! I'LL BET ANITA SARKEESIAN'S BEHIND THIS! IT'S HER KICKSTARTER!!!
My God, she's been playing the long game.
 

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Zachary Amaranth said:
My God, she's been playing the long game.
Don't be silly. Thunderfoot[footnote]Peace Be Upon Him[/footnote] assures me that she's literally never played a game ever.
 

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8bitOwl said:
Scarlett Johansson is a vain slut IRL. I saw an interview with her and I was appalled to see it. I was kinda hoping she was a smart girl playing the sexy doll on screen because it's good money.
You mean to tell me a bigtime Hollywood star is *glup*... vain? It's an outrage! Not Robert Downey Jr. too, say it ain't so!!!
 

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Under_your_bed said:
Zachary Amaranth said:
My God, she's been playing the long game.
Don't be silly. Thunderfoot[footnote]Peace Be Upon Him[/footnote] assures me that she's literally never played a game ever.
Touché! But still, the world must be warned of her evil mistressminding.

...Seriously, if I could like posts, that zinger would get as many as possible. I tip my hat to you.
 

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Zachary Amaranth said:
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i hate Social Justice, now i dont know if, when an artist wants to do some gender swapping, it is because he/she wants to experiment with something different or is because of pandering

i guess ill wait and see
I don't think you know what "social justice" is. I know that the internet froths in a rage at the "social justice warrior," but are you seriously pro-slavery and miscegnation and shit?

Anyway, yeah. I hate pandering. Only straight white dudes should be pandered to.
pro-slavery and miscegnation and shit?
yes i mean exaactly that, i said these exact words

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no, you know what i mean with social justice, all this fucking pandering and getting offended over everything, shaming and insulting people over artistic choices and trying to force diversity into everything like some captain planet episode

i dont dont judge people based on their skin, gender or sexual orientation, i judge them based on their actions

also im not white mate, i dont see how see how the previous movie was pandering


you know what is the group of people that i think is the most racist of all?, excluding shit like white supremacists and stuff, the so called social justice warriors, the people who defend social justice to the extreme, people who feel they have the right to tell women and people of color how they should feel, these people ignore minorities are people too, they only see skin colors, genders or sexual orientations, they dont see people

to be clear, im not talking about you, unless you are one of those people
 

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*fingers crossed for Lena Dunham as Kylie Griffin*

...ah, who am I kidding, no one remembers Extreme Ghostbusters.
 

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Four pages and no mention of Lucy Lawless? This seems like the kind of project that's tailor made to have her jammed in it somewhere...
 

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NuclearKangaroo said:
yes i mean exaactly that, i said these exact words
But that's what social justice is. Even if you insist I "know what you mean." And that was kind of my point. That was why I said
"I don't think you know what "social justice" is." Instead of getting offended that I accused you of saying things I didn't accuse you of saying, maybe read and understand what I actually said?

Also, whether or not you're white changes nothing, so I don't know why you brought it up, mate. It's almost like you're responding by rote to accusations you expect me to make, rather than things I actually say.

But, for the record.

There were blacks who opposed abolition. There were women who opposed suffrage. There were gays (and still are) who opposed gay marriage. There are people on welfare/medicaid in this country who oppose government assistance. That doesn't make them right. Their race/sex/sexuality/economic status is largely irrelevant. As is yours to my statement.