Amazon Declares Diablo III Its Most Preordered PC Game Ever

[Adfest]

Well the problem for me IS the DRM. I've enjoyed the shit out of Blizzard games since Warcraft. The last Blizzard game I bought, probably the last Blizzard game I will buy, was Starcraft 2. I was thrilled to have this game and thoroughly enjoyed playing it when I had the time (which wasn't very often). Unfortunately, there were multiple times that I could not connect to battle.net for various reasons (including their own servers being down) and therefore could not play the game I paid $60 for. Why? So that they could discourage some of the less competent pirates who probably found ways around it anyway. Now this fun feature is being added to all of their games?

Thanks, but no thanks. I don't care how good this game or future Blizzard games may be. I can't give this company my money anymore.

 

[Grey Day for Elcia]

"Boo! DRM is horrible! Boycott DRM games! Pirate the games so the companies learn a lesson."

One week later.

"There's DRM and a real money store in Diablo 3? Oh who cares. It's Diablo 3!"

Gotta love conviction of belief.

 

[Grey Day for Elcia]

The hilarious thing is that you have to have a constant broadband connection to play it. You can pre download it onto your machine right now, it's PC only and yet we still have to wait for the retail release?

WAT. The silliness, it burns.

Stop, drop and roll! Think of better games!

 

[Polock]

Diablo 3 is going to be awesome. The beta was great, and I have two good friends who are going to stomp through Tristam with me.

If you think it blows because of really minor complaints, then you think it blows. No one cares.

Really looking forward to this in a few days. The game brings me fun, and that what I want a game to do.

 

[GoaThief]

You do realize the beta was hosted on ONE single server, likely not even one in your region, for over 2 million people.

No, I did not. I could be wrong but I don't believe 2 million people connected to one hosting server for all the games either, do you have links which prove this?

Lag won't be an issue once it goes live.

Says who and with what evidence?

 

[VladG]

You do realize the beta was hosted on ONE single server, likely not even one in your region, for over 2 million people.

No, I did not. I could be wrong but I don't believe 2 million people connected to one hosting server for all the games either, do you have links which prove this?

Lag won't be an issue once it goes live.

Says who and with what evidence?

The numbers were released by Blizzard. 2.1 mil people played the beta. I don't care to look it up, feel free to do so yourself.

As for the latency post launch, I say so, based on years of playing on-line Blizzard games with under 50ms latency.

I won't bother replying to any further posts from you.

 

[GoaThief]

The numbers were released by Blizzard. 2.1 mil people played the beta. I don't care to look it up, feel free to do so yourself.

I can certainly believe 2.1 million played the beta.

I won't bother replying to any further posts from you.

So when someone questions your statement as fact (one server for over 2 million people + will be fixed in full version with no evidence provided) you throw a hissy-fit?

Yep, sound argument you have there.

 

[Eric the Orange]

"Boo! DRM is horrible! Boycott DRM games! Pirate the games so the companies learn a lesson."

One week later.

"There's DRM and a real money store in Diablo 3? Oh who cares. It's Diablo 3!"

Gotta love conviction of belief.

Well your assuming it's the same people. I doubt that.

 

[Eric the Orange]

I won't bother replying to any further posts from you.

I don't know if English is your native language so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. But saying that makes you sound like a petulant child. The "Take your ball and go home" mentality. If you don't want to talk or argue with someone the best way is just to not respond to them at all.

 

[Grey Day for Elcia]

"Boo! DRM is horrible! Boycott DRM games! Pirate the games so the companies learn a lesson."

One week later.

"There's DRM and a real money store in Diablo 3? Oh who cares. It's Diablo 3!"

Gotta love conviction of belief.

Well your assuming it's the same people. I doubt that.

I'd bet a kidney it is. The vocal video game community is about as crap a vocal minority as you can get (except maybe religous extremists, lol).

 

[VladG]

Honestly I never had a problem with the DRM. It is the pay-to-win-house because of the obvious and because it will now set a precedent for other publishers to try and pull this shit in there games.
Also the removal of stats, limit of 7 skills, being unable to pick which skill to unlock when you level up, and having infinite skill respecs piss me off even more than the pay-to-win-house because it promotes the dumbing down of RPGs and honestly takes away what made the Diablo series great.

How is a system that allows for hundreds, if not thousands of viable builds for each character dumbed down from a skill tree that allowed for, at best, 2-3 viable build per character?

Because if you've ever played Diablo 2 on hell, you'd know that ANY build except 1-3/class were utterly useless and made progress impossible. It was very similar to the current WoW talent trees that have ONE viable build with maybe 2-3 free points to spend in 1-2 talents depending on the situation.

Stats have not been completely removed either, they have been moved to the gear choice. Since very few pieces are class specific, you are forced to choose the best stats for your build on your gear, rather than in your char screen

What the new system does is simply take away the horrific penalty for placing one point in the wrong skill, either by miss-click or lack of perspective.

Not to mention that you are no longer locked to 1-3 skills to use during the ENTIRE GAME like in Diablo 2.

 

[Eric the Orange]

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While I agree that gamer words are cheap, and they often say they will do something but don't follow through. But I doubt that the people who have been complaining on these forums are the same people who are now praising the game. That's not to say there resolve may crumble and they buy the game but I doubt they are actually the same people who are now praising the game.

 

[VladG]

3) They decided to add a new game mode above "Hell" difficulty which, by their own statements, would be almost unplayable unless you play the game with other people, utterly destroying the core single player nature of the game.

Eehm..what? Where exactly did you read about such a statement? Blizzard clearly stated that inferno is perfectly doable in solo play.

https://twitter.com/#!/Bashiok/statuses/194922245523648513


See, this is what I hate about people ragging on Diablo 3. They so desperately want to "fight the power", oppose the big bad corporation that they don't even bother getting their facts right, they just jump in on ANY hate boat they can find.

 

[John Funk]

Honestly I never had a problem with the DRM. It is the pay-to-win-house because of the obvious and because it will now set a precedent for other publishers to try and pull this shit in there games.
Also the removal of stats, limit of 7 skills, being unable to pick which skill to unlock when you level up, and having infinite skill respecs piss me off even more than the pay-to-win-house because it promotes the dumbing down of RPGs and honestly takes away what made the Diablo series great.

You think that leveling a barbarian to 50+ and then realizing you need to reroll and start all over again because you screwed up your build irrevocably made the Diablo series great?

Of all the changes in D3 this is the one that I would have thought people would have had the least problems with (then again, PC gamers do surprise me...) If there are one or two effective ways to build your character, and a million ways to make a character that is terrible, you don't really have any options at all. You only have the option to screw yourself over, before having to look up an online guide and start from scratch.

 

[VladG]

The numbers were released by Blizzard. 2.1 mil people played the beta. I don't care to look it up, feel free to do so yourself.

I can certainly believe 2.1 million played the beta.

I won't bother replying to any further posts from you.

So when someone questions your statement as fact (one server for over 2 million people + will be fixed in full version with no evidence provided) you throw a hissy-fit?

Yep, sound argument you have there.

And the fact that you actually ignored my comment just so you can continue to feel justified in your hate validates my initial refusal to further comment. Why carry a discussion when you're unwilling to listen to what I have to say.

Finding the link about the single server is not easy, and since you're the one contradicting me, feel free to provide your own evidence to the contrary, I'm not wasting my time. You can either choose to believe me or not, it matters little to me.

I did explain why there will be no lag post launch, but let me expand on that: Betas are usually restricted to few LOCAL servers, as there's no point in expending resources on global servers. They can test their systems just fine even with a laggy game. All blizz betas I've played so far have been the same. As stated before I've never had any lag issues in live games. There is NO evidence that Diablo 3 will be any different.

 

[GeorgW]

I was hoping that people would take a stand against their always on DRM bullshit, but I should have known better. Hopefully it'll be good, personally I won't touch it with a ten foot pole.

If they didnt take a stand against it for SC2 why would you think they would for Diablo 3?

Well, 3 reasons.
1st: Starcraft is a multiplayer game.
2nd: Startcraft has online activation DRM, not always on DRM, big difference.
3rd: I never said I really thought it would happen, I was just hoping.

 

[John Funk]

Honestly I never had a problem with the DRM. It is the pay-to-win-house because of the obvious and because it will now set a precedent for other publishers to try and pull this shit in there games.
Also the removal of stats, limit of 7 skills, being unable to pick which skill to unlock when you level up, and having infinite skill respecs piss me off even more than the pay-to-win-house because it promotes the dumbing down of RPGs and honestly takes away what made the Diablo series great.

You think that leveling a barbarian to 50+ and then realizing you need to reroll and start all over again because you screwed up your build irrevocably made the Diablo series great?

Of all the changes in D3 this is the one that I would have thought people would have had the least problems with (then again, PC gamers do surprise me...) If there are one or two effective ways to build your character, and a million ways to make a character that is terrible, you don't really have any options at all. You only have the option to screw yourself over, before having to look up an online guide and start from scratch.

Yes Mr. Funk sir I do have a problem with infinite and free respecs. It takes away the need for making a build and sticking with it and in turn cuts down on replayability. In D3 as I see it if a boss is giving your main build problem you go back to town and respec into a new build then when he is gone go back and respec again into your main build again. This I do not like 1 bit.

As however I mentioned in my previous post 1 free respec per game (for completing the first mission) for use @ any time is ok as it helps out those that do screw up.
If more than 1 respec per game is needed make it be related to a long, hard, fetch quest that makes you have to kill 3 - 5 certain bosses over and over again hoping they drop there special items (that will only drop like 5% of the time) so you can combine them to get your other respec.
Diablo 2 did it that way (albeit not right away it was patched in) and the game was better for it IMO. Made the game more challenging and kept the replay ability high. Hell I still play Diablo 2 thanks to the system it has making the game a great RPG with challenge something sadly lacking in this day and age.

Sorry, I can't agree with that. I mean, even back in the day, who had the time to level a character to 80+ more than a handful of times? Now, as an adult with responsibilities, who can possibly do that? If you reach level cap and find that you totally gimped yourself by putting points somewhere you shouldn't have (like, in D2, putting stuff anywhere but Vitality), or if you find that in PvP everyone is using a build that destroys yours... you're not totally screwed.

For that matter, since in D3 you have the option of ALL the skills instead of just the one or two that you chose to build your class around by putting points into (hammerdin, summonmancer, etc) I think that gives you arguably more flexibility with how you build. It doesn't matter what potential you have, it matters what skills you choose and how you rune them.

A great analogy I saw is like - if everybody owned every single card in Magic: The Gathering, but they still had to put together their own 60-card deck to play. It doesn't matter the potential so much as it matters how you use it. And in D3 you won't be penalized for being new/ignorant/not following skill/attribute guides.