Amazon UK XBox One pre-orders available...for £600

[ASnogarD]

Amazon UK has started taking in pre-orders for the XBox One, at the price of £600 and some early news indicates the console is already breaking pre-order records.
There is also a number of games for the machine that can be pre-ordered, each for a astonishing £89.99.
(http://crave.cnet.co.uk/gamesgear/xbox-one-hits-amazon-as-console-breaks-pre-order-records-50011346/)

Note that Amazon has a policy of selling at the lower price should a pre-order price be higher than the final launch price, so the high price may be more place holder values and will lower when Amazon has more solid pricing information.

Its actually scary that despite the bad atmosphere surrounding the console, and rumours surrounding the actual operation and pre-own stance of the machine... it is still alleged to be breaking records for pre-orders.
Its a gamble on all fronts here as we have very little confirmed information about the machine, and if Amazon puts the machine up at £600 at retail that is what the pre-order early adaptors will end up paying.

I guess most of it is actually placing orders to 'reserve' a machine, with intent to cancel the pre-order should things turn out for the worst, so all the hand rubbing and profit projections may be for nothing... and I hope that is what it is, rather than lemming like mass buying a console, no matter how bad its policies or pricing is.

If the product is poor, consumers must be prepared to say no, no matter how desperate they wanted the machine to be good... if its poor, its poor and supporting poor products encourages more poor products to follow.
If its good, then by all means enjoy.

 

[hazabaza1]

You.
Stop it.
Now.

"Please note that there are no official prices announced for Xbox One/Playstation 4 products. The price stated above is a placeholder. With our Pre-order Price Guarantee, you can order now and if the Amazon.co.uk price decreases between the time you place your order and the release date, you'll be charged the lowest price."

Straight from the fucking page in a big exclamation marked box. So stop shit-stirring until something official happens.

 

[Quellist]

Hoho, i think i would rather flush £600 down the toilet than preorder an Xbone and seeing as an Amazon preorder can be cancelled with no penalty at any time before the item has been dispatched i wouldnt read too much into those preorders.

 

[ASnogarD]

You.
Stop it.
Now.

"Please note that there are no official prices announced for Xbox One/Playstation 4 products. The price stated above is a placeholder. With our Pre-order Price Guarantee, you can order now and if the Amazon.co.uk price decreases between the time you place your order and the release date, you'll be charged the lowest price."

Straight from the fucking page in a big exclamation marked box. So stop shit-stirring until something official happens.

What's your problem ?

Shit stirring ? Where did you read any shit stirring ?

Fact: UK Amazon are accepting pre-orders currently at £600
Fact: News site alleges that pre-orders are already breaking records (see linked source).

I already noted ...
' Note that Amazon has a policy of selling at the lower price should a pre-order price be higher than the final launch price, so the high price may be more place holder values and will lower when Amazon has more solid pricing information. '

The point remains valid, a lot of pre-orders are being claimed, allegedly record numbers of the machine.

 

[Soopy]

89pound for a game!? Fuuuaaaark

 

[Hazy992]

Oh for God's sake... It's. A. Placeholder. Amazon have no idea what the actual price is, they just put any old price so they can take pre-orders.

The PS4 and Xbox One are not, I repeat NOT going to cost £600. That would be suicidal. All those people pre-ordering probably already know that too.

Christ almighty...

 

[hazabaza1]

You.
Stop it.
Now.

"Please note that there are no official prices announced for Xbox One/Playstation 4 products. The price stated above is a placeholder. With our Pre-order Price Guarantee, you can order now and if the Amazon.co.uk price decreases between the time you place your order and the release date, you'll be charged the lowest price."

Straight from the fucking page in a big exclamation marked box. So stop shit-stirring until something official happens.

What's your problem ?

Shit stirring ? Where did you read any shit stirring ?

Fact: UK Amazon are accepting pre-orders currently at £600
Fact: News site alleges that pre-orders are already breaking records (see linked source).

I already noted ...
' Note that Amazon has a policy of selling at the lower price should a pre-order price be higher than the final launch price, so the high price may be more place holder values and will lower when Amazon has more solid pricing information. '

The point remains valid, a lot of pre-orders are being claimed, allegedly record numbers of the machine.

The pre-orders are able to be cancelled at any time until release, the price has not been confirmed, and if the price goes down the lowest price it will ever be on amazon is how much people will pay come release.

So yes, none of this is valid and you're shit stirring.

 

[ASnogarD]

Oh for God's sake... It's. A. Placeholder. Amazon have no idea what the actual price is, they just put any old price so they can take pre-orders.

The PS4 and Xbox One are not, I repeat NOT going to cost £600. That would be suicidal. All those people pre-ordering probably already know that too.

Christ almighty...

Are you that sure ? I hear prices about $500 - $600, and the usual games industry style of $1 = £1 has precedence, so its not as far fetched as it may sound.
MS and Sony have both shown a lot of contempt for the EU market in the past, both machines have costed significantly more in the EU than in the US (in the PS3's case the system was even inferior as well as more expensive).
Its sounds scary but £600 for a launch machine is not so far fetched, especially if you consider how its perceived that MS has lost touch with its customer base (or is assuming it has a grip on that base and is trying to attract others instead).

It IS speculative I agree, but considering trends these prices are not that inconceivable, just unlikely.

 

[hazabaza1]

You.
Stop it.
Now.

"Please note that there are no official prices announced for Xbox One/Playstation 4 products. The price stated above is a placeholder. With our Pre-order Price Guarantee, you can order now and if the Amazon.co.uk price decreases between the time you place your order and the release date, you'll be charged the lowest price."

Straight from the fucking page in a big exclamation marked box. So stop shit-stirring until something official happens.

What's your problem ?

Shit stirring ? Where did you read any shit stirring ?

Fact: UK Amazon are accepting pre-orders currently at £600
Fact: News site alleges that pre-orders are already breaking records (see linked source).

I already noted ...
' Note that Amazon has a policy of selling at the lower price should a pre-order price be higher than the final launch price, so the high price may be more place holder values and will lower when Amazon has more solid pricing information. '

The point remains valid, a lot of pre-orders are being claimed, allegedly record numbers of the machine.

The pre-orders are able to be cancelled at any time until release, the price has not been confirmed, and if the price goes down the lowest price it will ever be on amazon is how much people will pay come release.

So yes, none of this is valid and you're shit stirring.

I even said that in the original post, you are just talking shit.

What are you some MS rep trying to stem the flood of reactions ?

I even said that the pre-orders are subject to being cancelled, and most likely the flood of pre-orders are just people 'reserving' a machine in hopes its actually good to avoid any stock issues.

Can you even read ? I have my doubts I must admit considering your replies.

Alright, I just don't get why the price is supposedly a massive focus seeing as how you're fully aware that it's completely subject to change. Someone made a thread about this on the PS4, and again, subject to change.

I admit I was a bit harsh but I'm not fond on the idea of pointless bitching, especially when there's a lot of valid reasons to ***** about the XBone. Just wait for an official price announcement then make a thread about how many sales or something it's getting or somesuch.

 

[Mr.Mattress]

If the XBone is really 599 US Dollars, then this thing won't sell! I said the same thing about if the PS4 is 599. Neither of these consoles can be priced this way if they want to sell. And if they're both priced at 599, then Nintendo will pretty much dominate the market. These better really be unofficial prices. They really better.

 

[Fractral]

Oh for God's sake... It's. A. Placeholder. Amazon have no idea what the actual price is, they just put any old price so they can take pre-orders.

The PS4 and Xbox One are not, I repeat NOT going to cost £600. That would be suicidal. All those people pre-ordering probably already know that too.

Christ almighty...

Are you that sure ? I hear prices about $500 - $600, and the usual games industry style of $1 = £1 has precedence, so its not as far fetched as it may sound.
MS and Sony have both shown a lot of contempt for the EU market in the past, both machines have costed significantly more in the EU than in the US (in the PS3's case the system was even inferior as well as more expensive).
Its sounds scary but £600 for a launch machine is not so far fetched, especially if you consider how its perceived that MS has lost touch with its customer base (or is assuming it has a grip on that base and is trying to attract others instead).

It IS speculative I agree, but considering trends these prices are not that inconceivable, just unlikely.

The games industry doesn't do £1-$1. The average price for a new game here is around £45, whereas it's $60 in America (or so I hear). A £600 games console wouldn't sell well at all- it'd be along the lines of an $800 console over in America, and I think that would be a very stupid decision for Microsoft to make- they may be assholes, but they're not idiots.

 

[Legion]

To be honest, with the way Amazons pre-ordering works, it's a great idea to pre-order anything you may even consider buying just to make sure you get a copy if you want it. You can cancel it any time before the day it ships without any loss, so I imagine a lot of people doing it are just trying to be on the safe side.

Although as I mentioned in other topics, I doubt it will sell poorly anyway. Not all of the people who play games are the kind to pay attention to the details like those on websites such as these. Some people just want the latest thing, and some people don't even think of the games industry as a "thing", they just buy and play games as they see fit. So they don't care about all of the issues that a lot of us do.

 

[ASnogarD]

You.
Stop it.
Now.

"Please note that there are no official prices announced for Xbox One/Playstation 4 products. The price stated above is a placeholder. With our Pre-order Price Guarantee, you can order now and if the Amazon.co.uk price decreases between the time you place your order and the release date, you'll be charged the lowest price."

Straight from the fucking page in a big exclamation marked box. So stop shit-stirring until something official happens.

What's your problem ?

Shit stirring ? Where did you read any shit stirring ?

Fact: UK Amazon are accepting pre-orders currently at £600
Fact: News site alleges that pre-orders are already breaking records (see linked source).

I already noted ...
' Note that Amazon has a policy of selling at the lower price should a pre-order price be higher than the final launch price, so the high price may be more place holder values and will lower when Amazon has more solid pricing information. '

The point remains valid, a lot of pre-orders are being claimed, allegedly record numbers of the machine.

The pre-orders are able to be cancelled at any time until release, the price has not been confirmed, and if the price goes down the lowest price it will ever be on amazon is how much people will pay come release.

So yes, none of this is valid and you're shit stirring.

I even said that in the original post, you are just talking shit.

What are you some MS rep trying to stem the flood of reactions ?

I even said that the pre-orders are subject to being cancelled, and most likely the flood of pre-orders are just people 'reserving' a machine in hopes its actually good to avoid any stock issues.

Can you even read ? I have my doubts I must admit considering your replies.

Alright, I just don't get why the price is supposedly a massive focus seeing as how you're fully aware that it's completely subject to change. Someone made a thread about this on the PS4, and again, subject to change.

I admit I was a bit harsh but I'm not fond on the idea of pointless bitching, especially when there's a lot of valid reasons to ***** about the XBone. Just wait for an official price announcement then make a thread about how many sales or something it's getting or somesuch.

The real point of my post was the last paragraph...

'If the product is poor, consumers must be prepared to say no, no matter how desperate they wanted the machine to be good... if its poor, its poor and supporting poor products encourages more poor products to follow.
If its good, then by all means enjoy.'

In short I want to encourage people to wait and see if the product is a good and worthy purchase and not just chase the brand and fall to hype, it hurts us all when consumers buy without thought.
That is all I want, if either or both consoles turn out good for gamers then great but if not or has anti consumer policies then show the console manufacturers that consumers will not just auto buy whatever is tossed in front of them, like sheep... or lemmings.

 

[Smeatza]

The games industry doesn't do £1-$1. The average price for a new game here is around £45, whereas it's $60 in America (or so I hear). A £600 games console wouldn't sell well at all- it'd be along the lines of an $800 console over in America, and I think that would be a very stupid decision for Microsoft to make- they may be assholes, but they're not idiots.

When I went over to the USA and bought my first PS3, it cost me $300. The prices at home in the UK at the time were £300.
You're right, it isn't the case with games, but from my experience it is the case with consoles.

 

[hazabaza1]

You.
Stop it.
Now.

"Please note that there are no official prices announced for Xbox One/Playstation 4 products. The price stated above is a placeholder. With our Pre-order Price Guarantee, you can order now and if the Amazon.co.uk price decreases between the time you place your order and the release date, you'll be charged the lowest price."

Straight from the fucking page in a big exclamation marked box. So stop shit-stirring until something official happens.

What's your problem ?

Shit stirring ? Where did you read any shit stirring ?

Fact: UK Amazon are accepting pre-orders currently at £600
Fact: News site alleges that pre-orders are already breaking records (see linked source).

I already noted ...
' Note that Amazon has a policy of selling at the lower price should a pre-order price be higher than the final launch price, so the high price may be more place holder values and will lower when Amazon has more solid pricing information. '

The point remains valid, a lot of pre-orders are being claimed, allegedly record numbers of the machine.

The pre-orders are able to be cancelled at any time until release, the price has not been confirmed, and if the price goes down the lowest price it will ever be on amazon is how much people will pay come release.

So yes, none of this is valid and you're shit stirring.

I even said that in the original post, you are just talking shit.

What are you some MS rep trying to stem the flood of reactions ?

I even said that the pre-orders are subject to being cancelled, and most likely the flood of pre-orders are just people 'reserving' a machine in hopes its actually good to avoid any stock issues.

Can you even read ? I have my doubts I must admit considering your replies.

Alright, I just don't get why the price is supposedly a massive focus seeing as how you're fully aware that it's completely subject to change. Someone made a thread about this on the PS4, and again, subject to change.

I admit I was a bit harsh but I'm not fond on the idea of pointless bitching, especially when there's a lot of valid reasons to ***** about the XBone. Just wait for an official price announcement then make a thread about how many sales or something it's getting or somesuch.

The real point of my post was the last paragraph...

'If the product is poor, consumers must be prepared to say no, no matter how desperate they wanted the machine to be good... if its poor, its poor and supporting poor products encourages more poor products to follow.
If its good, then by all means enjoy.'

In short I want to encourage people to wait and see if the product is a good and worthy purchase and not just chase the brand and fall to hype, it hurts us all when consumers buy without thought.
That is all I want, if either or both consoles turn out good for gamers then great but if not or has anti consumer policies then show the console manufacturers that consumers will not just auto buy whatever is tossed in front of them, like sheep... or lemmings.

The sad truth is that the majority of people who are going to buy stuff aren't people who pay attention to the anti-consumer stuff and keeping up to date with news stories. They're just people who want an Xbox because hey, why not?

If people stick to their word then there'll be a lot less "core" gamers getting the XBone but the people who are going to get it "because hey, it's an Xbox, may as well get it" are still going to give a lot of sales.

 

[Dragonbums]

Amazon UK has started taking in pre-orders for the XBox One, at the price of £600 and some early news indicates the console is already breaking pre-order records.
There is also a number of games for the machine that can be pre-ordered, each for a astonishing £89.99.
(http://crave.cnet.co.uk/gamesgear/xbox-one-hits-amazon-as-console-breaks-pre-order-records-50011346/)

Note that Amazon has a policy of selling at the lower price should a pre-order price be higher than the final launch price, so the high price may be more place holder values and will lower when Amazon has more solid pricing information.

Its actually scary that despite the bad atmosphere surrounding the console, and rumours surrounding the actual operation and pre-own stance of the machine... it is still alleged to be breaking records for pre-orders.
Its a gamble on all fronts here as we have very little confirmed information about the machine, and if Amazon puts the machine up at £600 at retail that is what the pre-order early adaptors will end up paying.

I guess most of it is actually placing orders to 'reserve' a machine, with intent to cancel the pre-order should things turn out for the worst, so all the hand rubbing and profit projections may be for nothing... and I hope that is what it is, rather than lemming like mass buying a console, no matter how bad its policies or pricing is.

If the product is poor, consumers must be prepared to say no, no matter how desperate they wanted the machine to be good... if its poor, its poor and supporting poor products encourages more poor products to follow.
If its good, then by all means enjoy.

People are always going to be dumb enough to pre-order a console before getting all the facts, or knowing that the thing will have console breaking glitches in like the first week.
I wouldn't pre order that garbage even if I just wanted to make a YouTube video smashing it to pieces. and $600.00? Whoa Nilly! $89.00 for a game preorder? Aside from COD: Ghosts, we don't even know what games are coming out for the system!

This is absolutely ridiculous. This pre-order culture has gotten out of hand.

 

[Magnikai]

Quick note, for everyone thinking that £600=$600 American. Its not. The exchange rate is like 1.5 so its really nearly set at $900 American. Dur hey obviously not a thing.

 

[Ironside]

The games industry doesn't do £1-$1. The average price for a new game here is around £45, whereas it's $60 in America (or so I hear). A £600 games console wouldn't sell well at all- it'd be along the lines of an $800 console over in America, and I think that would be a very stupid decision for Microsoft to make- they may be assholes, but they're not idiots.

Maybe not for games, but it is definitely the case for hardware. A lot of companies price things the same in the UK as in the US - its mostly Apple, but Microsoft aren't innocent either and neither is Sony. We always tend to pay more for these kind of things than the US, even with the games, but I would hope that one of the companies will sell the console at a fair price point.

Quick note, for everyone thinking that £600=$600 American. Its not. The exchange rate is like 1.5 so its really nearly set at $900 American. Dur hey obviously not a thing.

The point people are making is that if something is priced at $600 in the US, a lot of companies just set it to £600 in the UK as well even though that makes it more expensive over here.