Amazon UK XBox One pre-orders available...for £600

[Magnikai]

Quick note, for everyone thinking that £600=$600 American. Its not. The exchange rate is like 1.5 so its really nearly set at $900 American. Dur hey obviously not a thing.

The point people are making is that if something is priced at $600 in the US, a lot of companies just set it to £600 in the UK as well even though that makes it more expensive over here.

Oh well, that is extremely stupid. Why would they charge so much more for you guys?

 

[Yopaz]

You.
Stop it.
Now.

"Please note that there are no official prices announced for Xbox One/Playstation 4 products. The price stated above is a placeholder. With our Pre-order Price Guarantee, you can order now and if the Amazon.co.uk price decreases between the time you place your order and the release date, you'll be charged the lowest price."

Straight from the fucking page in a big exclamation marked box. So stop shit-stirring until something official happens.

People like to react.

This right here explains why I kinda like Amazon though. I like that they are flexible with pre-orders in their way. If the price were to increase then you'd get it at the price it was when you ordered it. If the price were to decrease you'd get it at the lower price. I have ordered from stores that always give you the higher price no matter what. I fucking hate that.

 

[MeChaNiZ3D]

Well I don't know about you, but I had no idea preordering with the intent to cancel closer to release was a widespread thing. If I was ever to preorder something, I'd do it with the intent to buy it. If it's breaking records for preorders, I'd think most of those would be legitimate. Then again, what do I know. Perhaps I've once again underestimated the nebulous 'masses' who will buy fucking anything.

 

[shrekfan246]

it'd be along the lines of an $800 console over in America, and I think that would be a very stupid decision for Microsoft to make- they may be assholes, but they're not idiots.

$900, actually.

The games industry doesn't do £1-$1. The average price for a new game here is around £45, whereas it's $60 in America (or so I hear). A £600 games console wouldn't sell well at all- it'd be along the lines of an $800 console over in America, and I think that would be a very stupid decision for Microsoft to make- they may be assholes, but they're not idiots.

When I went over to the USA and bought my first PS3, it cost me $300. The prices at home in the UK at the time were £300.
You're right, it isn't the case with games, but from my experience it is the case with consoles.

The launch price of the PS3 wasn't the same, though.

The 40 GB system launched at £300 and $400 USD, the 60 GB system launched at £425 and $600 USD. The US got a 20 GB system that didn't launch in the UK. I don't know if conversion rates were the same still seven years ago, because it's not really an even conversion rate and the US ones would've still been cheaper by today's conversion, but it's not the same 1:1 ratio people are saying.

 

[SonOfVoorhees]

Maximum i would pay is £300. Maximum i would pay for a game is £40.

Thing is im sure it will be more than £300 at launch, and the games will probably be around £50 or so. But very few games are worth that. An if the console is 500 - 600 pounds, then its not worth it for me as i just use it to play games. No interest in online gaming and everything else it does. So, if i bought it, it would be in a year or two when the price comes down.

 

[Deathlyphil]

The point people are making is that if something is priced at $600 in the US, a lot of companies just set it to £600 in the UK as well even though that makes it more expensive over here.

Oh well, that is extremely stupid. Why would they charge so much more for you guys?

Three reasons:
1. The vast majority of prices you see in Britain include 20% VAT. If a price doesn't include VAT then it will explicitly state that.
2. Shipping costs.
3. Localisation costs. Most annoyingly this includes software from America. Since we are part of Europe, we have to pay for their translations too.

Even taking all these in to account, we do tend to end up paying 10-20% more for all electrical and software goods.

Does that help?

 

[Headdrivehardscrew]

At this point in time and space, I am absolutely not interested in the XBone.

The prices are clearly marked as placeholders, but if the real ones turn out to be real... g'nite, Microsoft. Nice knowing you. See ya next life.

 

[aba1]

Amazon UK has started taking in pre-orders for the XBox One, at the price of £600 and some early news indicates the console is already breaking pre-order records.
There is also a number of games for the machine that can be pre-ordered, each for a astonishing £89.99.
(http://crave.cnet.co.uk/gamesgear/xbox-one-hits-amazon-as-console-breaks-pre-order-records-50011346/)

Note that Amazon has a policy of selling at the lower price should a pre-order price be higher than the final launch price, so the high price may be more place holder values and will lower when Amazon has more solid pricing information.

Its actually scary that despite the bad atmosphere surrounding the console, and rumours surrounding the actual operation and pre-own stance of the machine... it is still alleged to be breaking records for pre-orders.
Its a gamble on all fronts here as we have very little confirmed information about the machine, and if Amazon puts the machine up at £600 at retail that is what the pre-order early adaptors will end up paying.

I guess most of it is actually placing orders to 'reserve' a machine, with intent to cancel the pre-order should things turn out for the worst, so all the hand rubbing and profit projections may be for nothing... and I hope that is what it is, rather than lemming like mass buying a console, no matter how bad its policies or pricing is.

If the product is poor, consumers must be prepared to say no, no matter how desperate they wanted the machine to be good... if its poor, its poor and supporting poor products encourages more poor products to follow.
If its good, then by all means enjoy.

People are always going to be dumb enough to pre-order a console before getting all the facts, or knowing that the thing will have console breaking glitches in like the first week.
I wouldn't pre order that garbage even if I just wanted to make a YouTube video smashing it to pieces. and $600.00? Whoa Nilly! $89.00 for a game preorder? Aside from COD: Ghosts, we don't even know what games are coming out for the system!

This is absolutely ridiculous. This pre-order culture has gotten out of hand.

Just heads up that the pound is worth a lot more than the dollar and really the system would be around $900 also keep in mind that if you bought that in store the tax would be on that as well.

 

[Colt47]

Somehow this sounds like the Colonial Marines scenario for consoles, which is disappointing to say the least. Why would they buy this thing?

 

[Dragonbums]

Amazon UK has started taking in pre-orders for the XBox One, at the price of £600 and some early news indicates the console is already breaking pre-order records.
There is also a number of games for the machine that can be pre-ordered, each for a astonishing £89.99.
(http://crave.cnet.co.uk/gamesgear/xbox-one-hits-amazon-as-console-breaks-pre-order-records-50011346/)

Note that Amazon has a policy of selling at the lower price should a pre-order price be higher than the final launch price, so the high price may be more place holder values and will lower when Amazon has more solid pricing information.

Its actually scary that despite the bad atmosphere surrounding the console, and rumours surrounding the actual operation and pre-own stance of the machine... it is still alleged to be breaking records for pre-orders.
Its a gamble on all fronts here as we have very little confirmed information about the machine, and if Amazon puts the machine up at £600 at retail that is what the pre-order early adaptors will end up paying.

I guess most of it is actually placing orders to 'reserve' a machine, with intent to cancel the pre-order should things turn out for the worst, so all the hand rubbing and profit projections may be for nothing... and I hope that is what it is, rather than lemming like mass buying a console, no matter how bad its policies or pricing is.

If the product is poor, consumers must be prepared to say no, no matter how desperate they wanted the machine to be good... if its poor, its poor and supporting poor products encourages more poor products to follow.
If its good, then by all means enjoy.

Honestly, that makes it even worse. That's almost $1,000.00 for a pre-order.


People are always going to be dumb enough to pre-order a console before getting all the facts, or knowing that the thing will have console breaking glitches in like the first week.
I wouldn't pre order that garbage even if I just wanted to make a YouTube video smashing it to pieces. and $600.00? Whoa Nilly! $89.00 for a game preorder? Aside from COD: Ghosts, we don't even know what games are coming out for the system!

This is absolutely ridiculous. This pre-order culture has gotten out of hand.

Just heads up that the pound is worth a lot more than the dollar and really the system would be around $900 also keep in mind that if you bought that in store the tax would be on that as well.

 

[LetalisK]

The Xbone will sell by the bucket load. Yes we hate it and no we aren't respresentative of the entire purchasers of game systems buyers these days.

Pretty much this. This site is not representative of the gaming community. Just look at the disparity between the crazy popularity of the NFL Madden series as well as Call of Duty and its unpopularity here. Or maybe it's just a vocal minority thing, I don't know.

 

[KingsGambit_v1legacy]

If the XBone is really 599 US Dollars, then this thing won't sell! I said the same thing about if the PS4 is 599. Neither of these consoles can be priced this way if they want to sell. And if they're both priced at 599, then Nintendo will pretty much dominate the market. These better really be unofficial prices. They really better.

Quoted for truth. The PS3 was the least successful last gen because a) it was late to market and b) Sony priced it out of the market. A console costing more than £200 or $300 is too expensive and will not sell to parents who buy them for their kids/teens.

One might argue that these are more than consoles now; even the last gen offered media capabilities beyond previous generations' capabilities. However that is irrelevant. The only people who will spend £600 on a console are either a) morons, b) rich stock brokers who want the latest shinies or c) both.

£600 (give or take) will net a gaming PC (today) capable of outperforming the XOne and PS4 combined. And it would come with the benefit of access to every game released on PC, emulators/ROMs of older console game libraries, indie and flash games which don't need MS/Sony approval, F2P and other MMOs, access to the filesystem for modding/cheats/other, equal or greater media capabilities and lots more besides.

What MS and Sony have forgotten is that people want a games console to be a console for playing games. Buy disc, insert disc, play game. Now you have to install updates, be online, enter codes, install to hard drives, etc. All negatives, all steps backward, not forward.

 

[TheEndlessSleep]

Oh for God's sake... It's. A. Placeholder. Amazon have no idea what the actual price is, they just put any old price so they can take pre-orders.

The PS4 and Xbox One are not, I repeat NOT going to cost £600. That would be suicidal. All those people pre-ordering probably already know that too.

Christ almighty...

Why would they post such unreasonably high 'placeholder' prices unless the actual prices were fairly similar?

You seem to expect the prices to be significantly lower... they won't be.

 

[Able Seacat]

On Play.com [http://www.play.com/Games/Xbox360/4-/46861742/-/Product.html] it's £399. It's just a placeholder price, I wouldn't make a fuss just yet.

 

[Hazy992]

Oh for God's sake... It's. A. Placeholder. Amazon have no idea what the actual price is, they just put any old price so they can take pre-orders.

The PS4 and Xbox One are not, I repeat NOT going to cost £600. That would be suicidal. All those people pre-ordering probably already know that too.

Christ almighty...

Why would they post such unreasonably high 'placeholder' prices unless the actual prices were fairly similar?

You seem to expect the prices to be significantly lower... they won't be.

Because Amazon has a pre-order guarantee that you pay whatever the lowest price is between pre-order and release. If they set it way too low then Amazon would have to sell it to you for far less than it's worth.

They've priced it so high because they know it will get lower.

EDIT: BTW The Xbox One is £399 on Zavvi [http://www.zavvi.com/xbox-one-console/xbox-one-console-new-xbox/10807959.html] & so's the PS4 [http://www.zavvi.com/ps4-hardware/ps4-new-sony-playstation-4/10765997.html]

 

[TheEndlessSleep]

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Because Amazon has a pre-order guarantee that you pay whatever the lowest price is between pre-order and release. If they set it way too low then Amazon would have to sell it to you for far less than it's worth.

They've priced it so high because they know it will get lower.

EDIT: BTW The Xbox One is £399 on Zavvi [http://www.zavvi.com/xbox-one-console/xbox-one-console-new-xbox/10807959.html] & so's the PS4 [http://www.zavvi.com/ps4-hardware/ps4-new-sony-playstation-4/10765997.html]

Fair enough, but If I'm honest, I still don't want one no matter how cheap they get.

 

[Colt47]

The things the preorder numbers say about humanity is disturbing to say the least.

On the other hand, sources are showing that it's only at blockbuster that the console is breaking preorder records, which isn't saying much.