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Bara_no_Hime said:
exxxed said:
wow you really didn't have to type all that.
It amused me. And that was only the stuff I could remember.

I am well aware that I am a Video game item hoarder. If I can squirrel away items for future use (that will likely never come) I will.

It comes from playing some of the Final Fantasy games where it was difficult to obtain certain items, so if you could grind for them, you SHOULD grind for them... and then never use them, because you might need them for the Bonus Boss or something.
I believe you are suffering from "But i might need it later" syndrome. It is a very common illness among people who play video games
 

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Update: I found a Virgin!

So apparently some of the nurses aren't party girls. Too bad - I kind of liked it better when I thought they were.

Anyway, virgin tears collected.

I tried to deliver them to Kalkstein, but he didn't know what I was talking about - apparently I just needed the tears and the potion was already in my inventory. I guess? Whatever.

So I gave the potion to Carmen. She needed time, so I went to the inn to mess with my inventory (and sell some food to the waitress) and I was going to do some boxing, but all the boxers are at the new Inn I guess, so I couldn't. Anyway, I decided to say hi to Carmen on my way by to see if she was done and - wow, she was. I didn't realize the "come back later" meant "come back in five minutes".

Anyway, that didn't work. Apparently the last resort is True Love. Except that Vincent calls her a dirty whore. Well... fuck you Vincent. I go have a "word" with him and apparently that works. So I run around the town collecting herbs for a few minutes then go check on Carmen. And yes! Vincent is cured! Horray! Wow... that was surprisingly easy. So, basically, Vincent was cursed for being a jerk to Carmen. Huh.

Well, that appears to be.. oh, wait, one of the nurses is outside the hospital now. She asks me to go see her grandma, but grandma (the same grandma from Shari's house, lazy programmers) kicks me out. The quest log suggests I come back at night.

... fuck it.

I teleport to the tower, make it Night - and remember to level up! Yay! In only a few more levels I'll start getting Gold medals.

I teleport back to town and check on Grandma. There's a vampire in her basement, so I kill it. Upstairs, grandma yells at me. Wow, she's crazy. I teleport back to Kalkstein, make it morning, and then go talk to the nurse. She pays me 50 gold and quest complete. Nice!

Finally, I head to see the merchant guy. He... tells me to see Triss, who's vanished from the Inn. Crap. I check her house, and she's back there, but still in her party dress. She tells me about the gem thing so I head back to the merchant, who wants me to come back later. I run around the grave yard murdering monster and then head back and he's ready to dish. I need to find some allies. Groovy.

I head over to talk to Siegfried, but he tells me off! Well, finally! I thought you were going to love me forever for no good reason. Weirdly, though, his merchant will still buy my used weapons.

Yaaven, meanwhile, agrees to help me! Horray! So I didn't lock myself out of working with the Squirrels after all. Oh good, I was worried about that.

I head back to see Triss, and she has another mission for me first. I go talk to the mirror guy who is... the King of some neighboring country. I get the impression that he wants to marry Adda. Mostly from his inquires about what kind of children she'd produce. Hm. Probably best Geralt not get too involved in THAT one.

Well then, all quests appear to be resolved (other than the fucking dentist - where am I supposed to find Alip fangs?!) so I guess it's about time to tell Triss that I'm ready for the Big Meeting.

Which I will do... next time.
 

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The End of Chapter 3:

So, I loaded the game and immediately told Triss that I was ready to go. We headed to the inn where Geralt and Vincent are immediately attacked. Group style makes short work of my foes. Vincent... barely survives (wow, tiny sliver of health left there). And I get a cut scene about how much Carmen and Vincent love one another. Neat! I'm guessing if I hadn't killed that last Salamander when I did that said cut scene would have been a lot sadder.

Anyway, the Innkeerp is gone, so I can't store the utterly massive pile of Salamander loot I've got. Dammit! I take what I can carry and abandon the rest. I really did want to drop stuff off in storage before things got too serious.

Upstairs, I meet up with everyone and get teleported directly to the Salamander base. Nifty. I start cautious, kiting enemies into the hallway to handle them in twos and threes. Not really necessary, but caution is always a smart idea.

After looting the bodies and the room, I meet up with Yavven. He wants me to get a crystal from a mage. He seems to this this will be difficult.

I kill the mage. And Yaavven gets really hurt! Damn, why do my NPCs suck at life so much?

Anyway, I open the portal and it is BATTLE ROYALLE TIME!

After killing tons of dudes, I avoid the plot and loot. Oh my the looting. I loot so much the game gets bored and spawns another set of Salamanders to kill me. So I kill them AND loot them too! Bwahaha! Suck that game!

Anyway, I head to the - smackdown cutscene. Sigh. But wait, now I get to continue solo. So I do so. I enter a room and fight some salamanders while a bunch of spiders just stand around. Huh. Suspicious. I kill all the spiders just to be safe.

Then I head in. The Main badguy teleports out and the Professors stays to kill me. He also summons up a pair of giant spiders.

And the fucking SPIDERS kill me.

Fortunately, I saved before approaching, so I reload there.

Okay, time to plan this better. I'm already over half toxicity (due to other potions used) so taking a swallow now would have me hallucinating. Instead I take a White Honey to cancel all current effects. Because I'm awesome and made it with Negrido, I get a 20% damage buff. Nice.

I THEN take a Cat (so I can see) and a Swallow (for the Regen). I put the instant Vitality potions (with Rubido Regen) and Blizzard potions in my quick slots (since another Swallow won't help) and head in.

This time, I start with the silver blade and focus on the giant spiders. Once their killed, I switch to Steel and kill the Professor. Awesome - what a difference a Swallow potion, a Negrido damage buff, and some strategy made.

And it's cut scene time! We fall into a cave and there's another giant spider - that burrows into the ground. Huh. I try to loot the now dead Professor, but there's no loot to be had. However, there is a crate of money that I loot.

Okay, the mission says kill the Spider Queen. Cool. I save and get out my silver sword. The spider is being coy, so I cross the room - and there she is. I charge her with my silver sword.

And get INSTANTLY KILLED!

FFFUUUU.....!

Reload. Okay, so maybe I'm supposed to escape first? I the monster appears again, but I keep going and - Geralt says something about knocking out the supports. I turn around and try fire (as the spider approaches) but that doesn't work, so I try the force spell and GET INSTANTLY KILLED BY FALLING DEBRIS.

FFFFFFUUUUUUUU.....!

Okay. This time I switch to force spell before heading over there. I sprint farther down, charge up the Force spell, and unleash it as the spider gets close. The debris falls on the spider! And the spider... keeps coming. I run into the next room where there are a ton of little spiders, so many I can't get past them. Then, suddenly, they all run away. I run to the other side of the room, turn to use my force spell and-- am INSTANTLY KILLED BY THE SPIDER QUEEN WHO JUST APPEARED RIGHT THE FUCK BEHIND ME.

FFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCKKKKKKK!!!

Variations on this happen a few more times, including getting squashed by debris or killed by the giant spider in various locations.

Finally, I just fucking run for it. I don't bother collapsing anything and I just sprint to the room with all the spiders. I get swarmed and can't make it to the other side, but something weird happens - they don't run away. I fight my way through several and get to the other side, turn to bring down the roof... and see the Spider Queen has Clipped into a wall and is stuck there.

Pfft!

Okay, but I also went too far and can't collapse the roof because there are too many smaller spiders and my force spell doesn't go far enough. So I have to murder my way back through, killing dozens of spiders with silver group style, until I'm close enough to knock down the support. Success!! I start to run away and the Spider Queen no-clips over -- FUC-- no, wait, she's been crushed! Yay!

I loot a couple dozen small spiders and the big one. Yay loot! And then I run for it before the game decides to hit me with some other bullshit.

Outside, I bump into Adda. Oh good.

Adda: "Execute him!"

Me: "... well fuck."

Geralt: "Give me one last kiss."

Me: "Good thinking Geralt! You have tons of weapons and spells. Take the Princess hostage and Escape!"

?Triss?: "I don't think so."

**Geralt teleports out**

Me: "Oh. Well. I guess that works."

And thus did Chapter 3 end.
 

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Chapter 4 Begins:

And I'm on the beach. And there's a chatty little girl. Okay. I question her and mostly just learn A) Weirdness, B) Love Triangle and C) Fish People.

Groovy.

I meet a Fish Person Priest who asks me to pray to the Lady of the Lake. Since this is Geralt, I assume kneeling before a woman is something he's pretty used to. **rimshot** So I agree. And then, like magic, I bump into a naked Naiad. Funny, she looks identical to the naked Dryad I met last chapter. Anyway, she wants me to kill some drowners for her. Hopefully these are upgraded drowners, not the ones from last chapter that only give me 1 xp now. She offers me trinkets - why can't Geralt just say "you can pay me with sex" since that's clearly what he wants? She's a Naiad, she won't mind. Nymphs love having sex.

Anyway, I now get to explore a bit. I pass a house (of the Fisher King, whomever the fuck that is) and kill the first batch of Drowners. The next one is on that island the little girl mentioned. Okay then - I try to take the Boat, but apparently I have to ask the Fisher King first. So I do. By this time, my inventory is dangerously full, so I rest an hour which I spend making potions to use up some of the alcohol and restock after the many, many potions I used during teh Salamander raid. Also, I got a unique potion component from the spider queen, so I make that and drink it to free up another inventory slot. Ah, much better. Now I just need to find an Inn.

First thing first, though - there are drowners to kill. I head to the island and they're right there. That was easy. And yes, these are the crappy 1xp type. Ah well. There are also some wyverns on the island! I murder them for XP.

The last batch of drowners are back in the previous area (why didn't I go after them first?) so I head there.

I wander around a bit, pick up some random crap, kill a vampire, and pass the Tomb (I'll go there later, after I find the inn). Which, it turns out, is where Dandelion is heading.

Did I mention I just ran into Dandelion? No? Well, that's because he yammers on about several irrelevant things. And one relevant thing - apparently Alvin is here. For some reason.

Wat.

Okay, is Alvin the final boss? Or is he stalking me? This is just getting creepy.

Anyway, I follow Dandelion to the Inn, where I talk to an inn keeper... and can't access storage. Weird. But there's another inn keeper who DOES let me access storage.

Huh?

Whatever. I drop off some rubies, diamonds, and Salamander badges (I now have 7 stacks of those). I also drop of my Salamander weapons until I find a weapon merchant to sell them to.

That done, I headed out to finish those drowners - and dawn dawned, meaning they won't spawn. Crap. Okay, time to explore the town, I guess.

Next time.

So, here I am in Chapter 4. I'm liking the fact that, like the first town, I can run into monsters outside at night. That always spices things up.
 

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Chapter 4 is mostly going to be this sort of a breather from the main plot that lets you see what Geralt's daily life is like

Captcha: come what may

Yes captcha, that was my attitude during the chapter. It had annoyingly large areas which resulted in quite a bit of running around, but it was strangely calming too
 

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What I've been reading instead of continuing chapter 4:



[sub]You can blame DVS BSTrD for introducing me to this webcomic.[/sub]

I'll play more tomorrow. Promise.
 

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Bara_no_Hime said:
I'll play more tomorrow. Promise.
... I lied.

I was going to! But then someone wanted to show me the latest episode of Doctor Who on their DVR. And... well... yeah. Sorry everyone. I promise I'll post again soon.

Until I actually do play more, have another comic that is mildly related to the thread topic:



Isn't Good Old Games cute? ^^
 

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Update!

Okay, so I continued playing today.

First, I decided to explore the new map and Gather ALL the Herbs!

While I was exploring around, I bumped into a Giant Centipede that was hard to hit (cause it kept dodging back down and screwing up my combos). So I set it on fire. HA. Burn underground or burn above, it's all the same to me you spineless fucker!

**rimshot**

... because centipedes are invertebrates. They don't have spines. GET IT?!

Bad puns and meta-humor aside, I found a broken bridge, found the spot where the Naiad told me to go, and then headed back to look around the town. The Blacksmith BOUGHT MY FISSTICK! yes! I'll have to sell him the rest... unless I need some more fisstick later? Maybe I should save some....

Oh, and the Blacksmith would NOT buy Salamander Badges. Fucker.

Having collected all the herbs in town I could find, I decided to avoid one plot and follow another by utterly ignoring Alvin and instead going to the cave with the mysterious Witcher. And - yes, it IS Beringer. Wasn't he supposed to be captured? I was expecting to find him back at the Salamander Base. Huh.

Anyway, he wants me to help him find some armor. Kay. I murder a ton of Alips - and get Alip fangs! Too bad the Dentist is back in the fucking CITY. Grr. The quest is still in my journal- can I complete this later?

Anyway, I also get some armor bit. Neat? It's a quest item, and Beringer seems very lasi fare about me taking the armor bit he just risked his life for, but whatevs. We head outside and talk at his campfire.

So he played ball with the Salamanders and they just let him go? Jerk. Oh well. He gives me his "make peace" contract and then suggests I simply murder one side. ... wow, this guy really doesn't get the meaning of "peace" does he? Neither does my Journal because one quest now suggests I go on a violent killing spree of friendly NPC fishman. Fuck that. I'm working this peace out just to spite this guy and my Journal.

That done, I wander back towards the beach and stumble on some elves (like, a lot of them). A couple of them know me, and one asks me to go on a mission to get them bread. They give me 20 gold to buy it with.

Funny thing is, I already HAVE five bread. In my inn inventory. So I got get 6 bread. For some jerky reason, I have the option to say I could only get them four, but not give them six instead. Fine, whatever. Here's your five bread because I can't be selfless and give you extra. Grr.

Still, it's worth good XP and it used up that bread.

I head off and decide to check out this Field that keeps showing up on my map. So I go there and get attacked by a Noonwraith. That was... interesting.

Then I find a hermit who talks to me. He wants me to fight the Wild Hunt.

....

So he wants me to commit suicide then? Geralt thinks he can handle it. I assume that means the game thinks so too. Thing is, the Wild Hunt is pretty fucking impossible to kill. I know because I've read the Dresden Files, and Harry Dresden is a man I can trust to tell me what's what.

Apparently, though, Mandrake root makes this a cakewalk. To get the hunt to show up I gotta piss him off by killing some wraiths first.

Do Noonwraiths count? Cause I've killed two or three of those.

Whatever. I grab some mandrake root (lots of new herbs!) and continue on. I also kill some fish people because the game really really doesn't want me to use Diplomacy. Well crap. They attacked me first.

I keep going, pass an abandoned mill or something, and then return to the village road near the broken bridge. Ah, nice loop. Good to know. Also, I LOVE not having to pay 5 gold to go to the "daytime enemy location" if I want to kill shit for fun. Thank you Chapter 4. So much easier than getting to the Swamp (even by teleport, considering those impenetrable walls of plant surrounding the tower). You guys were right - I like this location.

Anyway, I head to the inn to drop off my many, many new alchemical components and realize that I forgot to check the quest board outside this inn. Ah! The Inn keeper needs Wyvern eggs. I have 16 in my inn storage, so bam, done. Also, the town head man wants Allip fangs and the head of one of the fish people I killed in the field. Cool.

... if only the sun hadn't gone down while I was screwing around killing a centipede. Now the headman has vanished so I have to wait until tomorrow to do that.

I head back to the inn, store my decapitated fishman head, and then head off to kill those drowners (since I might need the lead drowner head - who knows).

On the way there, I spot a group of three things... Devourers! I haven't seen them before (that I recall) and I need their teeth for the dentist too. So I attack them. And they're pretty damn tough. Not Royal Wyvern tough, but they make the fight a challenge. Anyway, I loot their bodies, get some teeth, and then head off to kill the drowners. Which I do. And there's the lead one. He is pathetic and dies easily. I loot him, and he has her necklace. Yay!

Back to the Naiad (killing various critters on the way). Good times. I turn the necklace over to her and she offers me a book on Fishpeople (which I've read), a silver sword Rune, or infinite healing. Since I auto-heal, I choose the Rune.

Was healing a subtle way of saying sex? Oh well, she looks identical to the Dryad, so I bet she has the came stupid card anyway.

She also gives me an anti-drowner charm. I... wonder what that does. No really - does it make them not spawn? Ignore me? What? That could be really useful when I just want to ignore crappy drowners who only give me 1xp and a drowner brain (which I have 150 of).

And... that's where I had to stop.

So, my readers, what should I do next? Should I go visit Alvin? Should I pursue peace? Should I wait until morning and turn in a decapitated head?

I await suggestions.
 

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Another good read. I'm glad to see you're sticking with it.

FYI: don't get your hopes up about anything coming of that broken bridge. The dentist is around in the next chapter and I remember dropping off some teeth to him.

That location was my favourite. I just love running through the fields and I like the rural feel of it...though running from one end of it to the other got annoying towards the end of my stay there.

The anti-drowner charm makes them run away from you which I found useful since drowners seemed to die even when I whiffed with the sword and fighting them was annoying. However, making them die or not respawn would have been preferable since sometimes you can't do certain actions when there are enemies nearby.

I think you should just go after Alvin since that quests takes a little while and you can maybe avoid some unnecessary running around.
 

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I think you should just go after Alvin since that quests takes a little while and you can maybe avoid some unnecessary running around.
Righto.

However, upon booting up the game, I realized it's midnight, and I haven't yet established a free Rest Point to skip to morning.

So instead, I head to the field to kill monsters until morning. Ah, fun monster murder. And herb picking. Oh, look, some Wraiths. I need to kill a few anyway and - HOLY SHIT THE WILD HUNT! I haven't mandraked the candle yet and... I'm dead. Fuck.

....

Why no Auto-Saves at night?! Arg, I just lost half an hour of gameplay (killing random monsters and collecting herbs). Crap.

Okay, this time I pointedly save when entering the Fields. Sadly, the pack of Devourers I killed last time didn't respawn this time, so no XP or loot for me. Also, I'm annoyed, so I skip most of the herbs.

I take an alternative route to the druid circle, killing some Wyverns on the way, and save again. This time, I carefully kite two of the Wraiths away from the druid circle and kill them first. I save again, then run forward, past the other wraith, and click on the Shrine. One mandrake root on the candle!

I kill the last wraith, and the next wave, and the Wild Hunt arrives with the third wave. I down a swallow potion - and then a instant vitality potion - and kill all the wraiths. I keep trying to kill the Wild Hunt, but damn, it seems to have nigh-infinite HP. It slowly walks away while I keep hitting it and doing little/no damage (as far as it's HP indicator says). Anyway, the Wild Hunt buggers off, and the quest is listed as successful. Woot. I loot the dead wraiths and go see the Hermit, who offers me a choice of rewards.

A book (which I've read, so no), his hut (which is kinda tempting), and a mysterious key item. I take the key item. He also gives me anti-spirit salt which I equip in my second ring slot.

Anyway, it's morning, but since I'm still rolling on Swallow potions (and hallucinating red flickers from toxic overload) I decide to use my Regen to kill some more random critters, including a giant centipede and some more Noonwraiths, who seem to be very blase this early in the AM. Whatever, I kill they ass.

Back in the town, I stop by the Inn to drop off some loot and pick up that head the village chief wanted. Also the allip fangs. I head to see him first and turn in the loot. Yay Xp. Yay Level!

Then I go see Alvin. Alvin is... Alvin. Also, how is this place nicer than Triss's townhouse? Kid has weird standards.

I ask the bride-to-be to rest in her house, chuckling at the potential scandal. I level up and make a ton of potions. I'm now level 29 - one more level to get Gold medals!

Anyway, I now have three quests telling me to talk to some NPC at the inn, so I guess that's where I'm heading next.

... next time, as it happen.
 

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Update.

Okay, so I headed to the inn, taking a long route to kill some centipedes. I bump into a bridge builder who needs some Grigs gotten rid of and asks me to ask the medicine woman.

When I get to the Inn, oh holy crap everyone wants to talk to Geralt!

First off, Celina, Alina's sister (so where are Belina, Dulina, and Elina?) is upset because her sister is getting married to Julian and he gave her a big diamond ring. Okay. And she says she'll fuck Geralt right here on the ground if he gives her a better ring.

As it happens, I still have that diamond ring that Triss turned her nose up at. One unsatisfying sex scene later, she tells Geralt that revenge is certainly not best served cold. Um... okay? Should I be concerned that she just referenced Khan? What, does that make Alina into Kirk? I don't think I can -

Alina: [HEADING=2]KHANN!!![/HEADING]

... this family frightens me.

Anyway... Dandelion is there too. Yay. He needs to talk to me about Alvin Apparently Alvin is supposed to be wearing a magic absorbing necklace, but Dandelion forgot to give it to him. Great job Dandelion.

And... my quest to check on Julian appears to have completed itself. When? Never mind, it was a dumb quest anyway. I stop in to see the medicine woman about the grigs, and it's Abigale! For some reason? Why isn't Alvin with her...? Oh whatever. She wants those devourer teeth (just need to find a few more) and says that I need to get a cat harness from the crypt. Righty oh.

First things first, though. I head to see Alvin, but he's gone and Alina's there. I reassure her about her crappy relationship and then ask about Alvin. Oh, he's out playing by those ruins.

You know, the ones with the [font color=hotpink]D[/font][font color=red]E[/font][font color=orange]A[/font][font color=green]D[/font] [font color=blue]B[/font][font color=darkblue]O[/font][font color=indigo]D[/font][font color=purple]Y[/font]!!!

**backhands Alina across the face**

... no, not really. Sadly, this isn't the Persona 4 comic fandub.

So I run to the ruins, getting attacked by THREE GIANT CENTIPEDES at once! Holy crap! Fire, burn them faster than they kill me! Yikes. Anyway... I SAVE after that, because damn. Also because I just got enough Centipede bits for the Elves. Yay!

Ahead, is... a Ghost. And Alvin. That's... not good. But the ghost is friendly! He just likes to play dice. Well, that's okay then. Can you come haunt somewhere less monster infested and play dice there?

Oh, wait, no, Geralt doesn't say any of that. He tells the ghost to fuck off. Okay Mr. Grumpy Pants, jeez. The ghost offers to gamble on Alvin.

....

Sure, why the hell not?

So it is Dice Time! I win two out of three with four of a kind on the last match. Also some minor coin. And the ghost goes off in a huff.

And then Alvin starts freaking the fuck out and talking funny while I get that necklace on him. And then he's fine. Except for talking creepy about some dream he has about Alina. Very creepy. Kay.

Apparently I now need to warn Julien. About... what exactly? Alvin's creepy dream? Apparently so, because when I get there, Julien says that Alina has gone missing in the thirty minutes since I last saw her (30 min real time, several hours game time, fine).

Alvin's dream tells me she's in the fields. So is the crypt with the harness. And so are devourers, since night has fallen. And I can take the field as a "short cut" to the shore where the elves are to drop off these centipede bits.

Yeah, let's go there next.

I head in and... Alvin is there. Wasn't he supposed to go home? He repeats his vision and my quest updates - apparently I can only find her when it's light out. Sure, that makes... sense. To the crypt!

I kill some devourers on the way and pull their teeth. Now I have enough for that quest too! Yay!

And Alvin is still following me. Damn it, kid, go home! Go to Abigale's! Go somewhere other than where I'm attempting to kill monsters!

Alvin waits outside the crypt. Fucking lovely.

Inside... holy shit undead. LOTS of undead. And Allips. LOTs of Allips. ... wait, are Allips undead in this world? They mostly look like succubi.

I grind up most of a level in here, killing the undead. I even find a unique undead and take his head. Awesome! I go through a couple of potions too, because DAMN Allips can get nasty. They have some sort of stun ability that has Geralt standing there while the enemies naw on his face. Ouch!

Anyway, I kill undead, loot them and their lootable objects, and move on to the actual plot. I find the grigs, prepare myself for battle... and nothing. They just stand there and watch as I take back the harness. OKAY. I was expecting a battle, but they don't seem to give two shits.

That was easy. On the way out, I get attacked my respawn allips and undead. DAMN these guys hit hard. I went through a ton of potions in there. But, I also leveled! Need to find somewhere to rest.

Once out of the crypt, Alvin is there again. Lovely. We head to the shore (killing monsters on the way) drop off the centipede bits with the elves, and then head back to the town. I stop in and see Abigale, and she takes the devourer teeth (I have spares now) and tells me to put the harness in another shrine near the bridge. Sure. I head that way, get attacked by more centipedes, and drop the item off (and get a clover). Goodie? I guess I'll give that to the mason when the sun rises.

Speaking of which, I head to town (killing more devourers on the way) and arrive just as sunrise is approaching. I find the village chief and turn over the unique undead head I found. Nice reward. I'm halfway to another level! HOwever, her won't let me sleep for free. Boo.

I go looking for someone who will, but Alina is missing, Alvin is still following me around, and Celina is no where to be found either (and her dad is in her bed... for some reason....)

Oh well, screw it. I'll level later. Now I'll head back to the mason and then to find Alina.

... next time.
 

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I'm kinda wondering how they'd frame the whole "Alvin/kid follows you around" in Witcher 2 if they tried doing the same thing again. He just kinda is there with you no matter how hard Geralt objects during Chapter 4, they didn't seem to put put much effort into properly explaining it, though it might have just been a while since I played
 

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Norrdicus said:
I'm kinda wondering how they'd frame the whole "Alvin/kid follows you around" in Witcher 2 if they tried doing the same thing again. He just kinda is there with you no matter how hard Geralt objects during Chapter 4, they didn't seem to put put much effort into properly explaining it, though it might have just been a while since I played
The Witcher world is pretty infested with monsters but I don't think to nearly the same extent as the game (it's been awhile since I read the books so I could misremembering) because everyone would be dead if that were the case so Alvin following you around is less stupidly suicidal than it seems.
 

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Update: Well, this is gonna be a biggie. Let's get started.

So I picked herbs until the Mason got there. Then I gave him the clover. Chose the cash since I already read that book and I don't need another idiot kid following me around.

Then I headed into the Fields to find Alina. With Alvin, because... who the fuck knows, really. And I head to the spot indicated and...

Alina is fucking UNDEAD.

Er... I mean that Alina has become an undead. Not that she's having sex with a group of them. Although I don't think that would have been any more shocking.

Just as I'm What-The-Fucking post cut scene, I see two figures. It's Celina and Adam. Adam is chasing Celina! So Geralt will leap to the resc--

NOPE! Geralt just fucking STANDS THERE while Adam knifes Celina, the woman he had sex with yesterday, to death.

What the shit grilling fuck, Geralt?!

Celina respawns as a Wraith, like, instantly, and Adam runs off. And Geralt stops to chat with undead Celina.

I guess I know what happened to Belina, Dulina, and Elina. They were FUCKING MURDERED.

Anyway, after talking about putting Alina to rest (what about putting Celina to rest?!) I head after the murdering douchebag and... catch him! Wow, wasn't expecting that. And Geralt... chats with him. And then lets him go.

WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU GERALT?!

Geralt, you are a Witcher. That man just killed a human and created a monster. Your job is to KILL HIM. But no.

I go inform Julian about his fiancee being undead and his future sister-in-law being fucking MURDERED RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME WHILE GEARLT STOOD AND WATCHED. By the guy who was probably banging his now undead fiancee.

Julian is like "oh yeah, we should probably arrest Adam." NO fucking shit guy! What the hell is wrong with this town?!

Anyway, my rage aside, I'm supposed to talk to an expert about how to put her to rest (because, apparently stabbing her to death didn't work?) so I checked with Abigale. Apparently Alina owned a Nehelenia Mirror.



Sure, why the fuck not. Her mirror is broken. And transforming into angry glass clones probably. Apparently I need to go pick up the pieces. Sure, let's do that.

So off I go. And holy fuck, there really ARE clones of her (Alina) defending the mirror shards! So now I'm in an episode of Sailor Moon. Not that I'm complaining. At least in Sailor Moon, the heroes don't stand around while people get murdered a few yards away.

Speaking of which, where is Celina's wraith? I mean, it's day, so obviously she's not out at the moment, but I assume I need to find her later, and there's no quest icon for finding her. Or Adam, come to think of it, since no one is bothering to arrest him.

I collect the shards, and then I need to get someone to fix them. Blacksmith? Sure thing.

I head to see the Blacksmith. Then, since everyone who used to let me rest is fucking UNDEAD, I collect herbs for a few minutes until the mirror is fixed. I end up talking to the Blacksmith's wife. She wants me to give her some dust to get rid of a succubus. The Blacksmith wants different dust to fake his wife out.

I'd side with the wife, but... she offers me a book I don't need, whereas he offers me red meteorite. Crap. Meteorite it is. Sorry Mrs. Blacksmith. I also take this opportunity to upgrade my Silver Sword. Two Moon Runes and another Rune gives me +30% damage and +30% Silver Damage. I assume that's awesome. I lose some crit abilities, but gain +75% to another.

Back to the raspberry patch to show the mirror to Alina and... nothing. I need to talk to someone else now.

The game has no suggestions about whom.

And it's evening. I've been doing this all in-game day.

I stop off and see Julien. And, with his wedding called on account of DEAD BRIDE, he will finally talk about fish people. He wants me to kill Dagon. Oh goodie.

So, since I have nothing better to do until morning when I can ask people about Alina's ghost, I decide to go to the Island.

I speak with the Lady of the Lake, who offers to make peace if I bring her the right gifts. Also, SHE knows what to do with Alina - have Dandelion read her poetry. Kay. I go talk to the Fishman priest and, after looking at the altar, I ask for his gold bracelet. Then I find Julien and ask for a statue. I take them both back to the Lady of the Lake, and she rewards me with a drop of blood and a vague promise of a gift someday.

On to Dagon.

I summon Dagon. Dagon summons minions. And I can't... hit... Dagon.

OH. This is one of those "kill the minion" battles, eh? Which is fine, the Dagon minions go down easy, except that my attack keeps targeting Dagon instead of the minions. The camera is not being cooperative. I take a Swallow potion and keep going. Finally I kill the last minion and Dagon dies. Awesome.

I get a special Dagon alchemical item. But I have no potion recipe to use it. That kinda sucks. Any ideas about where I could get one?

I loot the many, many other corpses, kill some wyverns for kicks, and then head to see the Lady. She rewards me with what I eventually figure out is a Silver Level Up Coin. Yay!

So... that's the end of that quest. Peace restored.

Back to the Inn. I talk to Dandelion and he agrees to write a poem and meet me this evening.

It's... dawn.

I have no other current quests.

... maybe I should go kill some undead in the Crypt? Or check out the Barrows?

Or... does anyone know where I can find Celina's Wraith or Adam? I'd love to take care of those issues while I'm waiting on Dandelion.

Let me know.
 

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Bara_no_Hime said:
... maybe I should go kill some undead in the Crypt? Or check out the Barrows?

Or... does anyone know where I can find Celina's Wraith or Adam? I'd love to take care of those issues while I'm waiting on Dandelion.
Celina's wraith appears after you've dealt with Alina, and Adam gets arrested off screen the moment you tell Julian that he killed Celina.

To progress in the main quest, I believe you must talk to Lady of the Lake. Whether there are other requirements beside that, such as completing other quests, I don't know. I pretty much got the next main quest right after getting my reward from her
 

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Update: Crap crap crap crap.

So, I went to the crypts to kill the afternoon and made the undead there my *****. Good times.

Then I met Dandelion by Alina. He made me make up poetry, which was hilarious! ^^ And then Celina showed up and Alina went to rest. Awesome! And Celina started to wander off to her fate, but I ran over to her and gave her that thing I got from the Druid earlier. Ah, so that's what it was for! Neat. Now they're both at rest.

I let Julian know. End of that quest. And then the Fisher King wants to talk.

OKAY then. Sure.

Oh, while I was killing time earlier, I also chatted with the druid about knights and learned that the Fisher King is A) immortal and B) apparently King Arthur. Weird. So when I talk to him, first thing I do is ask about that. And he talks! Mostly taking insult at the fact that Geralt called him an idiot. Ah well. The Lady wants to see me again. Reward time!

I head over there and she gives me Excalibur (it has a different name, but it's Excalibur). Except that this means that my newly upgraded sword ends up IN THE FUCKING WATER where I can't pick it up again. Damn it! I guess I should have saved those runes.

The plot quest seems... confused. It wants me to talk to the Lady, but she's gone now. Oh well, maybe talking to Alvin will help?

I head to the boat and - Berringer's here! And he confesses everything. And then he wants to fight. Okay. So I kill him and loot his corpse. That was simple. No more dealing with his bullshit.

I head back to shore and there are a bunch of Rose Knights here to kill the elves. The elves I've been helping, who know me from before.

I click on my People Sword and try to attack. I only get "talk" as an option. What the Fuck?! Why can't I just deal with these jerks? Because the plot wants me to follow it obviously. Fine. Let's do this.

I head to town and Dandelion fills me in. They have Alvin. Great. So can we kill the knights already? I keep offering to help, Geralt keeps being wishy-washy, and when he finally says "let's do this" - the Knights attack on their own. And Alvin gets scared and FUCKING TELEPORTS AWAY. Grr.

I kill the knights and loot their bodies. And... where is Tourval, the nice elf woman I got the bread for. I don't see her anywhere... is she fucking dead? Damn it! Stupid fucking Knights.

Okay, to the shore. The... knight commander is there, whining about them leaving against orders. I make sure to rub her nose in it a bit, because I'm hoping she'll start a fight so I can kill her. No such luck, she just mopes more.

I meet up with Dandelion and the Fisher King and we head off. And... and is that fucking Siegfried leading another attack on the town?! Turn the fucking boat around! I just saved that damn town - DAMN IT!

So... back to Visima. Which is on fire. I sit back and hum Fire Water Burn. I guess I can finally go to the swamp to fight the last boxer now. Get his tooth. Speaking of teeth, I can finish that quest too. Goodie.

Dandelion is kind enough to offer me storage at the shore, so I store everything I can - that I don't think I might need first off - and then I save.

Did I just finish Chapter 4? I didn't see it say "Chapter 5" but it certainly felt like the end of a Chapter.
 

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Some random thoughts:

I quite liked Chapter 4, as many predicted. I'm sad to see it go (and I'm glad I did another run through the crypt - there're a lot of fun encounters down there). Also, the barrows turned out to just be those five graves. Anyway, I wasn't really happy to find myself back in Visima again. Are we going to continue using the same maps ad nausium? Or are we abandoning the old maps and getting some new ones?

The whole Arthur thing took me rather by surprise. So far, this has been very much a fantasy world. And then, suddenly, Arthur, the Lady of the Lake, the Holy Grail. The Hermit even provided the Di'Vinci Code version where the Holy Grail is actually the royal bloodline (a concept I have always loved). I'm not sure how I feel about the inclusion of real Earth legends in a fantasy world that works so hard to make itself Not Earth.

People said it was a huge aside from the plot, but I disagree. It was Beringer's chapter. He was the guy we were looking for, but it turns out he was the traitor who betrayed us in the first place. His actions set this whole series of events in motion. Him dumping the Fishpeople/Human conflict no me was the final symptom of that.

The wedding... I have no idea what that was. THAT part was an aside, I'll grant. It felt like it was going to be a big deal about the marriage, but then everyone got murdered and... yeah, that was that. Nice bit of sleight of hand on the part of the authors there.

I will say that I felt rather cheated about Adam. I didn't get to see his arrest, or see any evidence of it before the plot shoved me forward. I really wanted to kill him myself. **sigh**

Also, the same goes for the Rose Knights. I would have preferred to just take a Swallow potion and tank the mother fuckers right there on the shore.

For that matter, that last glimpse of a second group of Rose Knights apparently going to murder the Elves AND villagers I just saved (if that's what that was supposed to be) really kinda pisses me off. Way to make that whole chapter moot. It doesn't matter what I chose if everyone dies anyway.

Oh, which brings me to a confused point on choices.

So, when I used Dandelion's poem to de-curse Alina, I got a random flashback to saving Abigale in Chapter 1. As if doing that had some sort of effect on this quest. And, true, Abigale did give me some advice. But not about THIS part. The Dandelion plan was 100% the Lady of the Lake's idea. If Abigale was dead, I'd still have talked to the Lady and I'd still have done this with Dandelion. Why bring up my saving her NOW of all times?

I've noticed that about some of the "these are the decisions you made" flashes. They seem kinda... random. And often pointless. Again, what does it matter that I saved Abigale when the Rose Knights are going to murder her in a few hours?

After having a blast all through Chapter 4, I'm feeling a little... depressed. I've left Fun Land and am back to the annoying city. At least I can go to the Swamp now and box the Master Boxer and get his tooth, but still... more running around the city. Woo fucking hoo. **waves a sarcastic flag**

Unlike the last three chapters, where winning opened up new areas, this one is taking one away and putting me back in the old sandbox that I am already bored with. It feels like a step backwards.

Unless I'm gonna be restricted to Old Vizima and the Swamp. That would at least be semi-new. Still teh same old swamp, but at least I mildly enjoy the swamp - particularly now that I have the anti-drowner charm.

Oh, that. The anti-drowner charm. I like getting a big group of drowners who can't attack me and then killing them all with one fire spell. Very quick and easy. So that's nice.

I'm into the 30s now, on level, so I've been spending Gold medals on (so far) Silver sword techniques. I guess it's time to learn some Steel sword ones too.

Anyway, thus ends my random musings. Feel free to reply to any or all of the above. I'd love to hear some thoughts on these many ponderings.
 

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Bara_no_Hime said:
I head to the boat and - Berringer's here! And he confesses everything. And then he wants to fight. Okay. So I kill him and loot his corpse. That was simple. No more dealing with his bullshit.
Actually, you won't fight Berengar if you act sympathetic towards him. He's a bit thin-skinned though, I made him angry almost by accident. I wanted to scold him, berate him, but not kill him

Bara_no_Hime said:
Did I just finish Chapter 4? I didn't see it say "Chapter 5" but it certainly felt like the end of a Chapter.
Pretty much yes

Bara_no_Hime said:
Are we going to continue using the same maps ad nausium? Or are we abandoning the old maps and getting some new ones?
It's new maps, even the swamp is different, although were in same general area. The most similar area would be the burned down version of the Temple Quarter, but even that's turned into a linear combat section (debris covering up roads and whatnot).

Bara_no_Hime said:
The whole Arthur thing took me rather by surprise. So far, this has been very much a fantasy world. And then, suddenly, Arthur, the Lady of the Lake, the Holy Grail. The Hermit even provided the Di'Vinci Code version where the Holy Grail is actually the royal bloodline (a concept I have always loved). I'm not sure how I feel about the inclusion of real Earth legends in a fantasy world that works so hard to make itself Not Earth.
The Witcher universe always seemed to take so much inspiration from Germanic folklore and Middle Age habits that I didn't find the inclusion of King Arthur legends too weird. Then again, it never seems to take such large chunks of Earth legends ever again in the Witcher game series, so we can maybe chalk it up to the writers not being very experienced at this point.

Well, except that one random joke in Witcher 2 that reveals that Lord of the Rings, either as fiction or fact, exists in that universe.

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Also, the same goes for the Rose Knights. I would have preferred to just take a Swallow potion and tank the mother fuckers right there on the shore.

For that matter, that last glimpse of a second group of Rose Knights apparently going to murder the Elves AND villagers I just saved (if that's what that was supposed to be) really kinda pisses me off. Way to make that whole chapter moot. It doesn't matter what I chose if everyone dies anyway.

Oh, which brings me to a confused point on choices.

So, when I used Dandelion's poem to de-curse Alina, I got a random flashback to saving Abigale in Chapter 1. As if doing that had some sort of effect on this quest. And, true, Abigale did give me some advice. But not about THIS part. The Dandelion plan was 100% the Lady of the Lake's idea. If Abigale was dead, I'd still have talked to the Lady and I'd still have done this with Dandelion. Why bring up my saving her NOW of all times?

I've noticed that about some of the "these are the decisions you made" flashes. They seem kinda... random. And often pointless. Again, what does it matter that I saved Abigale when the Rose Knights are going to murder her in a few hours?
Rose Knights murdering the village? Now, while I find your different perspective interesting, you continually ignore the details that'd imply that the Rose Knights are occasionally on higher moral grounds than the Scoia'tael. The village is a hostage, and White Rayla was sent to the village not demolish it, but to rescue them with minimal casualties. Hence why the initial stealth approach. You help the Scoia'tael and that village might remain a battleground. The blood is on their hands.

Edit: I found an LP where the player sided with Scoia'tael, and I'll now admit the conversation with Rayla (and whichever faction chooses to speak to you before the conflict) had VERY different tone. Makes the The Order look more bloodthirsty, while also making the Scoia'tael look more self-righteous and hypocritical
 

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TopazFusion said:
Hmm, sadly I'm a bit late in joining this thread. It's been a good read though.
Thank you! I'm glad you're enjoying it. ^^

Norrdicus said:
It's new maps, even the swamp is different, although were in same general area. The most similar area would be the burned down version of the Temple Quarter, but even that's turned into a linear combat section (debris covering up roads and whatnot).
Oh good. I don't mind similar, but chapter 3 reusing chapter 2's maps 100% was a bit annoying. Particularly since most of the NPCs had relocated anyway, so the Temple district was mostly empty of people with things to do (aside from Carmen).

Norrdicus said:
The Witcher universe always seemed to take so much inspiration from Germanic folklore and Middle Age habits that I didn't find the inclusion of King Arthur legends too weird. Then again, it never seems to take such large chunks of Earth legends ever again in the Witcher game series, so we can maybe chalk it up to the writers not being very experienced at this point.

Well, except that one random joke in Witcher 2 that reveals that Lord of the Rings, either as fiction or fact, exists in that universe.
Inspiration is one thing. If there was a legend about a Holy cup and knights trying to find it, fair enough. But this was far more direct. Like I said, they even went into the san gréal bit. And the Lady of the Lake (who isn't part of the Holy Grail legend, but IS key to Arthurian legend). And even a couple of the knight names were the names of knights associated with Arthurian legend. Obscure ones, yes, but still. Also, it's implied that the Fisher King IS Arthur, made immortal by the Lady of the Lake (which was supposed to be the deal). Is he going to end up the King of Vizima at the end of the game?

A joke would have been easier to deal with - that would have had a tongue-in-cheek, just kidding quality. The main plot of this chapter hinged on the characters from Arthurian legend. It was just... strange. Not even bad, necessarily, but jarring.

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Rose Knights murdering the village? Now, while I find your different perspective interesting, you continually ignore the details that'd imply that the Rose Knights are occasionally on higher moral grounds than the Scoia'tael. The village is a hostage, and White Rayla was sent to the village not demolish it, but to rescue them with minimal casualties. Hence why the initial stealth approach. You help the Scoia'tael and that village might remain a battleground. The blood is on their hands.

Edit: I found an LP where the player sided with Scoia'tael, and I'll now admit the conversation with Rayla (and whichever faction chooses to speak to you before the conflict) had VERY different tone. Makes the The Order look more bloodthirsty, while also making the Scoia'tael look more self-righteous and hypocritical
Yeah. Seriously, she says "the villagers harbored the elves - they're traitors and will die (or be put on trial) along side them."

The Rose Knights heading towards the village at the end there is a LOT more sinister with that prelude.

However, since you bring it up, I wonder how much the story really does change depending on who you side with. Since I sided with the elves, they've been shown as mostly sympathetic. Yes, they do some extreme stuff, but they're fighting for their lives (and freedom). Whereas the Rose Knights come off as psychotic racists.

However, from what you've just said, apparently that isn't the case if you side with the Rose Knights. The game dialog apparently adjusts depending on who you've sided with.

Interesting. Very interesting. And rather impressive programming, I must say.
 

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Bara_no_Hime said:
A joke would have been easier to deal with - that would have had a tongue-in-cheek, just kidding quality. The main plot of this chapter hinged on the characters from Arthurian legend. It was just... strange. Not even bad, necessarily, but jarring.
I can understand being slightly confused by the inclusion of the Arthurian legen. It makes more sense than people deciding the game is very tongue-in-cheek due to the use of "et cetera" in a sentence. Yes, that has happened

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Yeah. Seriously, she says "the villagers harbored the elves - they're traitors and will die (or be put on trial) along side them."
Well to play devil's advocate and assuming that Rayla didn't pull that "harboring" thing out of her ass, Scoia'tael turning on the village after being protected, and killing several people to see what'll make The Order to stop their chase, it really makes Scoia'tael out to be an extremely teacherous sort of group.

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However, since you bring it up, I wonder how much the story really does change depending on who you side with. Since I sided with the elves, they've been shown as mostly sympathetic. Yes, they do some extreme stuff, but they're fighting for their lives (and freedom). Whereas the Rose Knights come off as psychotic racists.

However, from what you've just said, apparently that isn't the case if you side with the Rose Knights. The game dialog apparently adjusts depending on who you've sided with.

Interesting. Very interesting. And rather impressive programming, I must say.
The events themselves won't change, in fact they're pretty mirrored, but the dialog and therefore much of the context most definitely changes. In Witcher 2 however, things change. Different quests, areas, characters, major side-plots and even themes (I do hope you'll cover that too in this thread some day :p )

I think several pages ago, when I compared Scoia'tael to monsters to explain why The Order keeps hunting them, it apparently came from Chapter 4, when a nameless Order soldier confronts you and asks you to side with them right before re-entering the village. He "put it in terms a witcher can understand"; from the viewpoint of a witcher with no strong positive feelings towards the squirrels, comparing their actions to that of a desperate, hungry and cornered monster in the midst of innocent people makes a surprising amount of sense.