An RTS that plays like chess
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1. Advanced Wars (Unit Placement, baiting your opponent to move or retreat into a pitfall, and all the different units really feel like an ign reviewer once said, Chess x1000 or something similar)
2. World in Conflict or Company of Heroes (yes, you do have to build (CoH) or summon units during a fight (in WiC - limited backup points that regenerate once a unit is destroyed)
3. Disgaea: Afternoon of Darkness (For the PSP, SRPG - in the same line of Final Fantasy Tactics, it's has a humorous setting, loveable characters and a gameplay that will have you come back for more)
2. World in Conflict or Company of Heroes (yes, you do have to build (CoH) or summon units during a fight (in WiC - limited backup points that regenerate once a unit is destroyed)
3. Disgaea: Afternoon of Darkness (For the PSP, SRPG - in the same line of Final Fantasy Tactics, it's has a humorous setting, loveable characters and a gameplay that will have you come back for more)
I own Company of Heroes. It's one of the few RTS that I really like.escapistismal said:
The "capture territory" thing needs some improvement though.
I just can't get into space strategy games. I don't know why.Stormcloud23 said:
I played the demos for Homeworld and Sins and I just couldn't enjoy it.
Ok first time poster but hope this helps. All these games I have enjoyed I do notice you may not like a couple of suggestions
Homeworld 1 and 2 (although more like C and C as you can build more unites)
Sudden Strike Series (old games, WW2 era, set number of units to accomplish set tasks)
Commandoes 1 and 2 (extremely difficult "top-down" squad based games)
Ground control 1 and 2 and expansions (sci fi based tactical games similar to command and conquer but with limited unites)
Homeworld 1 and 2 (although more like C and C as you can build more unites)
Sudden Strike Series (old games, WW2 era, set number of units to accomplish set tasks)
Commandoes 1 and 2 (extremely difficult "top-down" squad based games)
Ground control 1 and 2 and expansions (sci fi based tactical games similar to command and conquer but with limited unites)
An older game, but a good turn based stratagy, that has minor random elements, but is very rock/paper/scissors. Final Liberation. Think of it as the forerunner to Dawn of War. And its based on Epic 40k, so includes titans and super tanks galour.
Tho, I always want to scream out battle chess... as thats chess... but with fighting, hehe.
(I do quite enjoy playing chess, or as a student, shot chess)
Tho, I always want to scream out battle chess... as thats chess... but with fighting, hehe.
(I do quite enjoy playing chess, or as a student, shot chess)
Okay, as a HUGE fan of TBS games, let me sum up for you;
1.
Advance wars. I'd highly reccomend this to you, In actual fact I'd most highly reccomend the first one of the series:
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/bigboxshots/3/471043_44166_front.jpg
It's a little dated now, but the combat, the AI and everything else can't be faulted, plus a fair chunk of the missions are exactly what you described in 1, "Limited units, punished by the AI if you screw up." Rather than 2, Dual Strike or Days of ruin where most of the missions give you factories or whatnot to build more.
2.
Total War. Hell yes, strategy and military tactics galore, I even purchased "Sun-Tzu's "The art of war", in the hopes of learning some tips and tricks for this.
There are more or less two ways you can go:
Shogun total war
Rome total war
There are others, but for the sake of my point we will just quickly go over those two. Typically if you liked Shogun total war, you won't like Rome total war as much, and vice versa. Me? I love Shogun total war. Definatley worth getting either one.
3.
Civilization II / Civ IV / Gal Civ II. These games will last you hours for just a single game on a medium map with only a few opponents. The biggest maps with the most players can go into days or even weeks, most certinally worth a mention. Highly enjoyable if you love to plan every move out in detail before you attack and like your games to last more than 10 minutes / half an hour.
4.
Disgaea. The turn based strategy with a sense of humour about itself. Start with 1 and go from there, The main story missions can be beaten inside of a week with no problems, but if you're the sort of guy who likes there to be "plenty to do and see" in a game, maxing out characters and so forth (A 100% completionist, in other words), then this is definatley the game for you. There is easily 100 to 200 hours of gameplay in there just for beating the secret boss, leveling up your favourite units and whatnot as high as you like can give you hours of gameplay into the thousands.
5.
Tactics arena online [http://www.digisonline.com/tactics/]. This is basically very, very similar to Final Fantasy Tactics, but online played against other people. Free to join, can get a gold account for a donation. Certinaly worth playing for a while at that price, if nothing else.
6.
Age of Wonders II: The Wizard's throne. This can be a difficult game to master, but the battle screen is most enjoyable and the AI can be rather fiendish. Worth checking out.
7.
Heroes of might and magic (Specifically II and III). All time classics, and you're doing yourself a disservice if you don't have them.
I would suggest you research those yourself from there, then pick the ones that suit you best (If not all of them).
1.
Advance wars. I'd highly reccomend this to you, In actual fact I'd most highly reccomend the first one of the series:
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/bigboxshots/3/471043_44166_front.jpg
It's a little dated now, but the combat, the AI and everything else can't be faulted, plus a fair chunk of the missions are exactly what you described in 1, "Limited units, punished by the AI if you screw up." Rather than 2, Dual Strike or Days of ruin where most of the missions give you factories or whatnot to build more.
2.
Total War. Hell yes, strategy and military tactics galore, I even purchased "Sun-Tzu's "The art of war", in the hopes of learning some tips and tricks for this.
There are more or less two ways you can go:
Shogun total war
Rome total war
There are others, but for the sake of my point we will just quickly go over those two. Typically if you liked Shogun total war, you won't like Rome total war as much, and vice versa. Me? I love Shogun total war. Definatley worth getting either one.
3.
Civilization II / Civ IV / Gal Civ II. These games will last you hours for just a single game on a medium map with only a few opponents. The biggest maps with the most players can go into days or even weeks, most certinally worth a mention. Highly enjoyable if you love to plan every move out in detail before you attack and like your games to last more than 10 minutes / half an hour.
4.
Disgaea. The turn based strategy with a sense of humour about itself. Start with 1 and go from there, The main story missions can be beaten inside of a week with no problems, but if you're the sort of guy who likes there to be "plenty to do and see" in a game, maxing out characters and so forth (A 100% completionist, in other words), then this is definatley the game for you. There is easily 100 to 200 hours of gameplay in there just for beating the secret boss, leveling up your favourite units and whatnot as high as you like can give you hours of gameplay into the thousands.
5.
Tactics arena online [http://www.digisonline.com/tactics/]. This is basically very, very similar to Final Fantasy Tactics, but online played against other people. Free to join, can get a gold account for a donation. Certinaly worth playing for a while at that price, if nothing else.
6.
Age of Wonders II: The Wizard's throne. This can be a difficult game to master, but the battle screen is most enjoyable and the AI can be rather fiendish. Worth checking out.
7.
Heroes of might and magic (Specifically II and III). All time classics, and you're doing yourself a disservice if you don't have them.
I would suggest you research those yourself from there, then pick the ones that suit you best (If not all of them).
Ignore Archon 3... it's a cheap hack and not a real game.The_root_of_all_evil said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archon_III
And no thread mentioning TBS could be complete without a mention of Moonbase Commander. That is an awesome game.
Get patches and utilities here: http://mbc.strategyplanet.gamespy.com/
SunoffaBeach said:
Depends on the person, though for me, its correct, I love S:TW but absolutely hate R:TW.
I have tried over and over again to like it but cannot, now its on the shelf gathering dust.
To me, its because of a massive increase in complexity for no reason, a 100 page manual, or a terribly slow tutorial explaining everything in one go would be one of the main reasons.
The battle map is fine, a little awkward, but I could live with that, but its not as fun to set up your own battles, I prefer having the random chance through a campaign, that way I cant predict what's going to attack me.
Back on topic: Sins of a Solar Empire would be a good choice, games can last for hours, though I recommend you play through the demo a few times to get a feel for the game before you think about purchasing it.
If not a turn based game i woud say "Z" is interesting for you and so is the Funmap "ZoneControl" originaly from StaCraft but also to be found in Warcraft 3. Both feature mechanics where the map is dividet into sectors and the goal is to capture sectors to raise production or to produce verry powerful units.
Z is a very old game and you need emulator software to play it nowadays but i think the game is great. Movement speed of units is very low so you have to consider where you will march at an enemy and how you will get those tanks arrive fast enough for the infantry that yould swim through a swamp as a shortcut. Also it is the only game that i know where your Soldiers insult you after loosing a round (which will happen often)
Z is a very old game and you need emulator software to play it nowadays but i think the game is great. Movement speed of units is very low so you have to consider where you will march at an enemy and how you will get those tanks arrive fast enough for the infantry that yould swim through a swamp as a shortcut. Also it is the only game that i know where your Soldiers insult you after loosing a round (which will happen often)
I don't think any RTS is anything like Chess. My favorite RTS is Dawn of War. Soulstorm is on sale for $7.50 on Steam until the 28th. Highly recommended.
Ok im not sure I understand exactly what you are looking for, but if its finite turns, different strategy, and a 'set' number of unites....
Ground control 1 and 2
Suddesn Strike series.
To a point Commandoes 1 and 2 (no building but GOOD tactics needed)
EDIT:
Try any 'Tactics' games i.e. Final Fantasy Tactics, Disgaea
Front Mission 3
Ground control 1 and 2
Suddesn Strike series.
To a point Commandoes 1 and 2 (no building but GOOD tactics needed)
EDIT:
Try any 'Tactics' games i.e. Final Fantasy Tactics, Disgaea
Front Mission 3
I'm surprised nobody mentioned the Age of Empires series. The first one was good and the second one was phenomenal. The third one.. well, it was crap. Stay away from the third one.
Age of Empires II could be described as an "elder's game", much like chess. It's set in the medieval ages in Europe. Though it's not turn based, it doesn't require inhuman reflexes or insane timing like some of the other games out there.
The game has enough variations to keep people like me and my dad playing since its release in '99.
About the "Winning by defense", there is a game mode where you construct a civilization-unique wonder and protect it for a set amount of time.
All aside, it's still very fun to play, especially if you have another person to play against.
Age of Empires II could be described as an "elder's game", much like chess. It's set in the medieval ages in Europe. Though it's not turn based, it doesn't require inhuman reflexes or insane timing like some of the other games out there.
The game has enough variations to keep people like me and my dad playing since its release in '99.
About the "Winning by defense", there is a game mode where you construct a civilization-unique wonder and protect it for a set amount of time.
All aside, it's still very fun to play, especially if you have another person to play against.