Analyst: Warfighter Failure May End Medal of Honor Franchise

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Ariseishirou said:
I never understood the "let's make CoD clones!" mentality. And I say this as a Call of Duty fan. When I want to play CoD, I'll play CoD. There's a new one out every year, with DLC packs every couple of months (though I get them every month, with Elite). I don't really need a CoD ripoff to while away the hours; CoD games have plenty of content and replay value.

And when I don't feel like playing CoD, I'm not going to pick up the nearest CoD clone! I'll pick up something completely different, like Dark Souls. Or Deus Ex. Or even Borderlands.

...And oh hey look those games all made money.

STOP MAKING COD CLONES. EVEN COD FANS DON'T WANT THEM.
lol, now thats something you dont hear everyday.
 

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DaWaffledude said:
They're talking about what we know of Dead Space 3. It's been confirmed that it's basically just a shooter now.
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To me, DS3 going full action is just natural evolution. That said, I get where people are coming from. With this, Resi 6 and a few other horror franchises going full action, and the Silent Hill series not being truly great since 2, it does kinda feel like no-one is really doing horror anymore.
Ah, right. I thought we were including DS2.

Yeah, I would kind of agree that if a game has any action to it, then it may as well become more action oriented throughout the series. The reason for this being that since in DS1 Isaac was silent, I was filling in for his thoughts as you do, and he started completely freaked out like any normal person would in that situation. By the time I first saw the marker though, I was double tapping necros with near perfect accuracy the moment they came into view and feeling liek an absolute certifiable badass (if slightly unhinged). With that in mind, even through one game the atmosphere is going to drastically change, let alone through three of them.
 

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Ariseishirou said:
I never understood the "let's make CoD clones!" mentality. And I say this as a Call of Duty fan. When I want to play CoD, I'll play CoD. There's a new one out every year, with DLC packs every couple of months (though I get them every month, with Elite). I don't really need a CoD ripoff to while away the hours; CoD games have plenty of content and replay value.

And when I don't feel like playing CoD, I'm not going to pick up the nearest CoD clone! I'll pick up something completely different, like Dark Souls. Or Deus Ex. Or even Borderlands.

...And oh hey look those games all made money.

STOP MAKING COD CLONES. EVEN COD FANS DON'T WANT THEM.
Completely agree with you.

Sadly, EA will learn nothing from this.
 

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Mcoffey said:
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Mcoffey said:
I doubt this will be the last we see of the Medal of Honor brand, because nothing truly dies any more. Likely we simply wont see any for a fair bit while EA puts it's shooter emphasis on Battlefield (As well as whatever other of their franchises they feel like butchering in the name of "accessibility" like Dead Space).
This raises a question for me: How exactly was Dead Space butchered? Agreeably, I didn't like it as much as the first game, but just off hand, I can't think of any hugely significant changes they made, with the exception of giving Isaac a voice and having him remove his mask occasionally. For the most part the gameplay was the same, the setting was very similar, and the plot... got a bit weird towards the end, but it wasn't like the game suddenly wasn't a Dead Space title any more.
Oh, I'm not referring to Dead Space 2. I actually really liked 2 for the most part. 3, however, looks to be lacking, what with the coop, cover shooting, action focus.

I'd love to be wrong about it, but I doubt it.
Cover based shooting? Oh yeah, I don't like the sound of that. The necromorphs do not. Need. Guns. And who the hell wants to play a Dead Space game where you're just fighting other guys with pulse rifles? Now that is not a Dead Space game.
 

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Why did they release a MoH game so close to Blops 2 anyways? Why compete with yourself, then get upset when the generally held better product is coming out soon, and will decimate your second stringer product?

That, in my opinion, is pretty idiotic.

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Blops is activision. I'm a tool, but I stand by the concept.
 

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cieply said:
Why do you give this idiot any publicity. If you have any self-respect or respect for gaming you should never report anything he says and just let him fade into obscurity, gods know he deserves it like noone else
He's the only one that speaks to gaming media and not stuffed suits in mainstream media that have no clue about games. That much I respect. Can't see why this guy gets so much hate simply for doing his job.
 

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EA should have released this game months ago. Its too close to Black Ops 2's release for people to care. Spending $60 is crazy enough for a game these days that isn't damn good. Why would they expect people to pay $120 over such a short amount of time?

Also, I'll say this now.

I didn't even know this game was out until 2 days ago.
 

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no they should just never have released it, i have it here in front of me and i want to set it on fire.

Worst game ever.

Dont compare it to bf3 though because its the best fps ever.
 

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To be honest I think the MoH franchise should have been canned ages ago. Allied Assault and Frontline were quite impressive when they were released in 2002, but sadly when Call of Duty launched in 2003, the game was superior in every way and each additional installment has been better than any MoH since then. The last major MoH game before the reboot was still in WWII, and yet where has every other shooter gone in the 5 years since CoD4? To a modern setting... and it took Medal of Honor three years to play catchup, and when it finally did nobody cared, and nobody cared again when Warfighter came out. Just put this one to bed EA and focus your attention on the Battlefield franchise, which at least stands a chance in the MMS market.
 

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More evidence that Michael Pachter is a fuckin' retard. Something bad MAY happen to something because of something bad. Yeah, nice fuckin' analysis you moron.
 

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What I expect is for EA to put the franchise on the shelf for a while(again) and after they feel some time has passed they'll pull it back out with a new engine(or some other big selling point) but promote it as "getting back to what made Medal of Honor great in the past only better" or some nonsense like that.
 

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All these stories about this game being a franchise killing flop and all I can think is:

'Warfighter' is a really stupid name for a game. What idiot OK'd that?
 

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We're listening to Michael Pachter? Again? Are there no other independent analysts who comment upon the medium? Are we that lonely...?

Annnnywayyyy...

If what Pac-Daddy says proves to be accurate, I'd have to say it's unfortunate, if predictable, that the holy grail of the big publishers has become "a franchise so big that it sells like hotcakes even when the games under that title are a steaming pile of 'meh'." Doubly so if as consumers we've led them to believe that was a tenable way to run the business.
 

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at least MoH is actually making a nod towards the SF in real life :/ unlike CoD MW lol but yeah I gotta agree...I barely noticed WF came out this week or last idk
 

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sir.rutthed said:
All these stories about this game being a franchise killing flop and all I can think is:

'Warfighter' is a really stupid name for a game. What idiot OK'd that?
Dunno, but I lament that now we'll never see the even further blunted titles like "Gunshooter" and "Dudekiller".
 

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AzrealMaximillion said:
He's the only one that speaks to gaming media and not stuffed suits in mainstream media that have no clue about games. That much I respect. Can't see why this guy gets so much hate simply for doing his job.
That's why

He is so misinformed that it's almost miraculous. He makes assumptions and forecasts out of his ass and, once he is inevetably proved wrong, he changes his tune withaut missing a step hoping that noone will take notice. The list of his sins is really long.
 

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AzrealMaximillion said:
cieply said:
Why do you give this idiot any publicity. If you have any self-respect or respect for gaming you should never report anything he says and just let him fade into obscurity, gods know he deserves it like noone else
He's the only one that speaks to gaming media and not stuffed suits in mainstream media that have no clue about games. That much I respect. Can't see why this guy gets so much hate simply for doing his job.
Well, there's the fact that, more-often-than-not, Pachter is completely and laughably wrong in his predictions.

I remember, some four or five years ago, when I used to frequent GamePolitics.com, constantly seeing "predictions" by him that were always laughed at and only rarely proved to be anywhere close to correct.

Seeing him on this site is similarly grating, unless he's suddenly become psychic over the past year or two.

Edit: Ninja'd. Damn. Yeah, what cieply said.